Why are cartoons more lighthearted now?

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  1. James35

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    Nothing wrong with today's cartoons but I was wondering. Back in the 2000s we had shows like Samurai Jack, Avatar, and Clone Wars.

    I don't want to upset anyone but I am curious why is there less cartoons that are as serious as those old shows.

    Are today's parents more protective? Are today's animators less interested in serious themes? Is it culture? Since the world is becoming scarier people want more escapist lighthearted entertainment? Or do people watch a lot less TV?

    Should Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network make something to compete with Star Wars Rebels and Voltron?
     
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    It’s mostly because there’s no demand for it, or more specifically, network executives don’t THINK there’s strong demand for it, so they don’t pick up more serious shows.


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  3. PapaGreg

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    You should really check out the French cartoon Lastman
     
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    A lot of parents and grown folks who don’t watch cartoons tend to have this idea that all animation is inferior to live action. They want cartoons that’ll keep kids laughing at fart jokes among other juvenile gags before they graduate to ‘real entertainment’. Show those adults Samurai Jack, Avatar, or heck even Hey Arnold and the fact that they’ll have to BEGRUDGINGLY say that they were impressed means that they don’t see animation as an art form that can make them feel things beyond laughter. Unless it’s coming from Pixar.

    Lighthearted toons are simply more expected from animation and networks don’t want to do anything ambitious if there’s no guaranteed profit. A good chunk of kids watching were more than likely only tuned in because a babysitter or parent turned on the tv to shut them up. Why bother making something spectacular and serious when kids don’t understand and adults don’t care?


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  5. Fone Bone

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    The real answer is that there is no financial incentive to do so. Serious cartoons don't sell toys or comic books anymore. That bothers me, but it's the reason.
     
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    Animation always comes in trends. Right now we are in a light-hearted era. This could change, however, as comic books, action figures and television are slowly getting less popular due to the internet, streaming services, smartphones etc., it gets harder for network executives to make action cartoons profitable.

    It doesn't help that Marvel and DC now focus on comic books for adults.
     
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    I agree that we could much more violence and dark stuff, provided it's done right and oozes substance, meaning, weight, and consequences, of course.

    Otherwise, better lighthearted fare than hatefilled blandness, condescension, pretentiousness, and/or stupidity, any day, IMHO.
     
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    As others have said, there’s just not a strong demand right now for more ‘serious’ shows.


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    I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "light-hearted". The shows you listed definitely lean more towards the action-drama side of the scale, but they were still (for the most part) pretty kid-friendly. And several current shows do deal with serious, morally complex subjects and occasional dark imagery, as seen with Adventure Time, Steven Universe, and Gravity Falls.

    If what you mean to say is "why are there less straight up action cartoons these days" (and yes, I'll agree with that) I'll just mimic what everyone else has said there just isn't as much demand or perceived demand for it.
     
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    Those cartoons are still out there. There's Voltron: Legendary Defender, Trollhunters, DreamWorks Dragons, Stretch Armstrong and the Flex Fighters, and Castlevania on Netflix. And Nico and the Sword of Light on Amazon. And the Marvel shows on Disney XD. They're just either on streaming or aren't pushed enough.
     
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    As everyone else has pointed out, there is not a huge market for serious cartoons nowadays. Look at what happened with shows like the Thundercats reboot and Young Justice when they first aired on Cartoon Network and they were both cancelled due to not doing well in the toy sales.
     
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    Young Justice is a poor example. It got revived due to its big fanbase. It only proves there actually is a market.
     
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    Yeah, afterwards Young Justice got revived, but I meant when it first aired and its ratings were shot down.
     
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    This might be a cycle. Television channels are just not interested in actual action shows, especially abroad, possibly because parents think that such a show is "not suitable" for containing "risky" content. True to Portugal, for example.
     
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