But the difference is that Charlie Brown's baseball team always loses. Mystery Incorporated always wins, and they do so in large part because of Fred's leadership. And, again, Fred often still took the action guy role, even when it would have been easier for them to follow the live action movie and make Daphne a kung fu master. The way you keep going on about "manliness" just makes me think you won't be satisfied with him unless he's the perfect Gary Stu tough guy without any flaws. That's not all that interesting to watch, though, and doesn't really fit in with a comedy show for kids. Your positions just seem contradictory and hard to sort out to me. I could understand if you were just a nostalgic fan who wants everything to be like it was in 1969 forever. But you're only like that on some things, on other things you're happy to accept much more drastic changes. Oh, we have seen Fred's parents. They were major characters in Scooby Doo! Pirates Ahoy! at least.