The current shows are ending

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  1. TheVileOne

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    So yeah. This.

    Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

    So let's unpack a few things. Even if these episodes were produced or ordered far in advanced, it's pretty misleading and clickbait hot garbage to just simply report the shows are "ending."

    Hypothetically, maybe the shows are ending after the episode orders are finished. Well the shows got lengthy orders and the orders were fulfilled. But that doesn't mean they are ending this year.

    Guardians of the Galaxy is getting a Mission Breakout season. Avengers is getting a Black Panther season. All of which will premiere later this year. Chances are, those seasons will take the shows PAST 2019 through next year. Saying they are ending means like they are ending this year right after the current seasons are over.

    Once again, the internet gets it wrong about Marvel Animation and spreads FALSE misinformation.
     
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    I don't think that necessarily works against the article.

    I brought it up before that we've known about these seasons for a while now, so production would probably already be winding down on them, which the article alludes too.
     
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    It's bad clickbait journalism. The shows are coming to an end once they are over. It's January, and if they are running through next year, to report "Oh they are coming to an end now!" Well no. They still won't be ending for while. And even still that's not exactly final is it? Especially when you've had bloggers signaling the end of these shows before.
     
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    It's an animation blog run by someone who, from what I've seen, generally has good insider information about this stuff.

    The show's coming back in 2018 doesn't necessarily have any bearing on what the fate of Marvel Animation is given these might be the last things on their production slate.

    Marvel Rising seems to be headlined by Marvel Television.
     
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    I think it's more a case of people online misinterpreting the news than it is the fault of the blog owner (especially since he pointed out some info may be incorrect). The shows might be ending production but that doesn't mean they'll be gone for at least another year or so.

    And honestly, I think this topic has pretty much ran its course at this point. I'll leave it open, but please don't turn this into a debate or use it to accuse others of spreading misinformation going forward.
     
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  6. Takao

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    Steve's report of Marvel laying people off would suggest more than just the typical cool down in-between productions. Usually contractors would just not have their agreements renewed.
     
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    To be fair, that blog did say: "Crew members say that much MA work will be completed in the next few months." We know it takes a long time to animate, so it's possible season 2 has already been in the works for some time.
     
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    Marvel is known to begin their animated series with 2 seasons since AEMH
     
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    Steve Hullet was always referring to the state of the show’s production, not when the show will have its final episode on TV. I guess that was never clear to some people who read his blog, based off the comments in that post.


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    It's a bad way of communicating and writing and getting your point across.

    Soon, Disney will be launching its own streaming TV service. One imagines Marvel content would be a part of it. Not sure if they plan on producing new content for the service, but one would imagine, it'd be nice to get a backlog of all the animated Marvel products on there.

    For example, if fans want to watch any episode, any season of X-Men TAS, that should be on there. Evolution, Avengers: EMH, Avengers Assemble, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Man TAS, heck United They Stand. The entire Marvel animated archive should be in there from the 60s to today.

    But Marvel will need animated content because kids aren't reading comics anymore, since most superhero comics these days aren't appropriate for new and young readers, and there needs to be a gateway into the Marvel Universe for them, and that's the purpose the cartoons serve.
     
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    I agree that the SVOD service should have every Marvel show, and I also agree new content should be made. But the question now is, if Marvel Animation is ending production on shows and is laying people off, who will air make these shows now? Marvel Television? Film Roman? Some other studio?
    I guess we’ll have to wait and see.


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    I think they've confirmed there will be some original Marvel shows on the service, though as to whether they'll move the cartoons to the service...well, that would kind of lead Disney XD a little bereft of content, especially with some of their other hallmark shows like Star Wars: Rebels already ending.

    I'm not sure I see Marvel releasing any of their past X-Men or FF cartoons on a service or just in general unless the Disney/Fox deal is confirmed.

    Would they have access to Spectacular Spider-Man and the 90's cartoon? I was under the impression there might be rights issues regarding those shows that would prevent Marvel from releasing them either on DVD or on a streaming service.

    I actually feel like the rights issues with a lot of the cartoons might be an issue if they wanted to release their entire backlog of shows on a service beyond the current cartoons, which they're already releasing on Marvel HQ.
    I wonder if Marvel Television headlining Marvel Rising is an indication of the future for the Marvel cartoons or Marvel animation as a whole?
     
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    Sony has Spectacular (I think it's still currently available for free on Crackle) and the MTV series but Marvel has control over all of the other Spider-Man series. Sony probably also has control of the Marvel Anime series and movies as well. They're always rotating on and off Crackle. The 90s show was only pulled from Hulu a few months ago (alongside Armored Adventures, X-Men TAS, Super Hero Squad and X-Men Evolution).

    I think it's fair to wager that Marvel has control over any show you can purchase from them on YouTube.
    https://www.youtube.com/user/MARVELTVONDEMAND

    Just going by what's listed on the premium videos on YouTube, these are the distributors for a lot of the animated stuff.

    ABC: Spider-Man & His Amazing Friends, Incredible Hulk 1982, X-Men, Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk 1996, Spider-Man Unlimited, Avengers: United They Stand, X-Men Evolution, Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes, Wolverine and the X-Men, Super Hero Squad Show, Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Ultimate Spider-Man, Avengers Assemble, Hulk and the Agents of SMASH, Guardians of the Galaxy, Marvel's Spider-Man

    Sony Pictures: Spider-Man: The New Animated Series, Spectacular Spider-Man, Iron Man Anime, Wolverine Anime, X-Men Anime, Blade Anime, Iron Man: Rise of Technovore, Avengers Confidential: Black Widow & Punisher

    Lionsgate: Ultimate Avengers I & II, Invincible Iron Man, Doctor Strange, Next Avengers, Hulk VS, Planet Hulk, Thor: Tales of Asgard

    Disney: Iron Man/Hulk: Heroes United, Iron Man/Captain America: Heroes United, Marvel Super Hero Adventures: Frost Fight, Hulk: Where Monsters Dwell

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    They should have Spider-Man: TAS and X-Men: TAS. They released both on home video beforehand.
     
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    I'm not going to miss Marvel's shows because they are not very good at all and it's not surprising that the very worst of them, this new Spider-Man is staying around.
     
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    You need to watch season 1 of AA or USM to see the worst.
     
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    What's that about JLA?
     
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    Or Agents of Smash(god that show was horrible)
     
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    Just a quick update on the status of Marvel Animations.

    "I'm told that Marvel Animation, Glendale has a lot of things on hold because they will be streaming many/most of its shows in the future and is now reviewing what it intends to do, production-wise. (Understand that this is scuttlebutt, and NOT established fact.)"

    An answer to another question of mine.
     
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    Well, scuttlebutt or not, it does possibly lend credence to the theory that the Marvel cartoons might be moving to the Disney streaming service.
     

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