MGM Cartoons version differences discussion

Discussion in 'Back To The Inkwell - Classic Cartoons Discussion' started by Cool_Cat, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. Charly9631

    Charly9631 Think! Think! Think!

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    I'm new to this forum, but is it just me or are the audio track in Blue Cat Blues for every versions different? I heard the spotlight collection has the track that has pretty quiet sfx, the pan and scan version has a slightly louder sfx and "The art of Tom and Jerry" has a pretty loud sfx.
     
  2. StickerBoy

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    I've been working on a list of shorts that aired on the CBS Tom and Jerry series from 1965 (with the red title cards, redone animated scenes in selected shorts, and in-between newly animated segments). It may or may not be completely accurate or even complete, but it's worth a shot. Here's what I have so far.

    List of Tom and Jerry cartoons aired in the 1965 CBS series (probably incomplete):
    • Dog Trouble (1942)
    • The Bowling Alley Cat (1942)
    • The Bodyguard (1944)
    • Puttin' on the Dog (1944)
    • The Milky Waif (1946)
    • Trap Happy (1946)
    • Cat Fishin' (1947)
    • The Cat Concerto (1947; Academy Award "Oscar" winner)
    • Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mouse (1947)
    • Salt Water Tabby (1947)
    • The Invisible Mouse (1947)
    • Kitty Foiled (1948)
    • The Truce Hurts (1948)
    • Old Rockin' Chair Tom (1948)
    • Professor Tom (1948)
    • Mouse Cleaning (1948)
    • The Little Orphan (1949; Academy Award "Oscar" winner)
    • Hatch Up Your Troubles (1949; Academy Award "Oscar" nominee)
    • The Cat and the Mermouse (1949)
    • Love That Pup (1949)
    • Jerry's Diary (1950)
    • Tennis Chumps (1949)
    • Little Quacker (1950)
    • Saturday Evening Puss (1950)
    • Texas Tom (1950)
    • Tom and Jerry in The Hollywood Bowl (1950)
    • The Framed Cat (1950)
    • Cue Ball Cat (1950)
    • Jerry and the Goldfish (1951)
    • Jerry's Cousin (1951; Academy Award "Oscar" nominee)
    • Slicked-up Pup (1951)
    • Nit-witty Kitty (1951)
    • Cat Napping (1951)
    • The Flying Cat (1952)
    • The Duck Doctor (1952)
    • The Two Mouseketeers (1952; Academy Award "Oscar" winner)
    • Triplet Trouble (1952)
    • Little Runaway (1952)
    • Fit to Be Tied (1952)
    • Push-Button Kitty (1952)
    • Cruise Cat (1952)
    • The Dog House (1952)
    • The Missing Mouse (1953)
    • Jerry and Jumbo (1953)
    • Johann Mouse (1953; Academy Award "Oscar" winner)
    • That's My Pup (1953)
    • Just Ducky (1953)
    • Two Little Indians (1953)
    • Puppy Tale (1954)
    • Posse Cat (1954)
    • Hic-cup Pup (1954)
    • Little School Mouse (1954)
    • Baby Butch (1954)
    • Mice Follies (1954)
    • Neapolitan Mouse (1954)
    • Downhearted Duckling (1954)
    • Pet Peeve (1954)
    • Touché, Pussy Cat! (1954; Academy Award "Oscar" nominee)
    • Pup on a Picnic (1955)
    • Mouse for Sale (1955)
    • Designs on Jerry (1955)
    • Pecos Pest (1955)
    • That's My Mommy (1955; "Annie" Award nominee)
    • Timid Tabby (1957)
    • Tom's Photo Finish (1957)
    • The Vanishing Duck (1958)

    List of Droopy, Barney Bear, and Tex Avery/one-shot cartoons aired in the 1965 CBS series (also incomplete):

    * Rock-a-Bye Bear (1952)
    * Mutts Over Racing (1958)

    Let me know if I left any out.
     
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  3. Daffyrocks

    Daffyrocks Woo-hoo-hooo!

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    It will be worth it if these prints would be also uploaded online.
     
  4. Charly9631

    Charly9631 Think! Think! Think!

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    Well, I actually found some videos which are the CBS Tom and Jerry version, but they are all dubbed in Brazillian.​
     
  5. StickerBoy

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    Yep. They've aired the CBS prints of the shorts on the Brazillian Portuguese network SBT, and these were the old dubs they used for these prints. Also, the German version of the show aired mainly the CBS prints as well, but no red title cards. Just only the German title of the short digitally generated over the first few seconds of the respective shorts in question.

    But all in all, there's gotta be more shorts that they've aired on the CBS show other than the ones I've listed.
     
  6. Daffyrocks

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    Oh yeah, and how can we forget the annoying tracks constantly used from "Cue Ball Cat" and "The Flying Cat"?...
     
  7. Cool_Cat

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    SBT has an English track too. I found a few shorts in the ts format with it.
     
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  8. Charly9631

    Charly9631 Think! Think! Think!

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    And surprisingly "The Two Mouseketeers" was the only CBS version (red title card) that aired on Cartoon Network Asia, if I'm not mistaken.
     
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  9. StickerBoy

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    Interesting. Just like how the the CBS print of "The Bodyguard" aired on Cartoon Network and Boomerang in France and how the same kind of prints of "Triplet Trouble" and "Just Ducky" were on European VHS tapes.
     
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    You forgot Jerry's Diary in this list.
     
  11. Charly9631

    Charly9631 Think! Think! Think!

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    Here's the color difference between these 2 version of Tom's Photo Finish, as you guys probably knows.

    Classic Collection :
    IMG_20170807_120606.jpg
    IMG_20170807_120824.jpg
    IMG_20170807_121139.jpg IMG_20170807_121203.jpg


    The Art of Tom and Jerry
    IMG_20170807_122250.jpg IMG_20170807_122302.jpg IMG_20170807_122312.jpg IMG_20170807_122321.jpg


    Which one has a better color print in your opinion?
     
  12. Daffyrocks

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    The Classic Collection print is from DVD, while the other one is from the VHS. Of course they are different.
     
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  13. Charly9631

    Charly9631 Think! Think! Think!

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    Actually The Art of Tom and Jerry Didn't come from the VHS, it came from the laserdisc, which later had the VCD port in China. I used to have one of those VCDs (The Art of Tom and Jerry), which says VOL.14 (as in side 2 Vol.2 in the laser disc). And still the audio track without being different language with very high quality audio.
     
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  14. Charly9631

    Charly9631 Think! Think! Think!

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    Anyone here have a Tom and Jerry disc (which plays the same as The Art of Tom and Jerry) with removed MGM screen and the "An MGM Cartoon - Made in Hollywood USA" screen (which looks like this https://ok.ru/video/3125545211 )?
     
  15. A-Cecil

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    That's true. I also do recall seeing this version on CN Southeast Asia instead of the Turner print like they should.
    And like many other CBS prints of MGM cartoons, they tend to look really dark, dull, faded and horribly bad.
     
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  16. A-Cecil

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    where do you find these rare SBT TVrips with English audiotrack in .ts format? The SBT TVrips I got from the Desenhos Raros website all don't have an English track available.
     
  17. StickerBoy

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    What a coincidence! I was about to ask him the same thing.
     
  18. Daffyrocks

    Daffyrocks Woo-hoo-hooo!

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    I used to have a homemade CD with some cartoons directly ripped from this VHS! :) And now I know where did these prints with the MGM logo and end titles removed actually come from!

    That CD contained the latest Tom and Jerry Cinemascope cartoons, along with the two Spike and Tyke spin-offs. Now I don't think I have the CD anymore, thought :(
     
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  19. Charly9631

    Charly9631 Think! Think! Think!

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    Yeah, I also used to have a VCD with those short with removed MGM logo and end title (from episode Happy Go Ducky to Ah! Sweet Mouse-Story of Life) and they was actually taken from The Art of Tom and Jerry. And sadly I also lost it. :(
    Do you know which Tom and Jerry title card (1957) was used for the Chuck Jones shorts?
     
  20. Charly9631

    Charly9631 Think! Think! Think!

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    Just remastered the Blue Cat Blues episode (with The Art of Tom and Jerry style). Sorry for the background noise, since the audio was recorded from TV. Here's the remastered episode of it (with 2 cue marks at the end.)
     

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