Looney Tunes Altered Versions Discussion v2 (or, the Looney Tunes Dumping Ground)

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  1. MTGM

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    Link, please.
     
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  3. MTGM

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    Thanks. I also just got the email.
     
  4. LooneyTuney18

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    You forgot the Tweety ones :p
     
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    @LooneyTuney18: Yeah I forgot about them.


    Just like @Cool_Cat, I'm doing the similar post about Looney Tunes History in Poland.


    To begin with, Looney Tunes shorts in Poland firstly debuted in 1979-1980 on TVP (Public TV Polish) and were aired with lector Andrzej Matul. These were post-1948 shorts as a part of The Bugs Bunny Show. The Bugs Bunny Show was repeated also in 1991-1992.
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    As a seperated shorts with correct opening and ending titles, Looney Tunes shorts debuted in 1989-1990 in lectored version. Elmer Fudd VHS release which included "Cat Feud", "What's Up Doc?" and "Rabbit Seasoning" was lectored by Jarosław Łukomski, which latter VHS releases from "Classic Looney Tunes Cartoons!" were lectored by Andrzej Matul.

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    Then for the first time, Canal+ ordered a dubbing for post-1948 LT/MM package which for the first time was presented in mid-1995, the post-1948 package was aired until Saturday, the 3rd March 2007. Firstly, LT/MM shorts were aired as a part of Decode Pas Bunny block ("Rozkodowany Bugs Bunny"). At the beginning, Road Runner and Coyote shorts were undubbed (probably in 1996-97 the dub was done for RR&C shorts). In 1998 LT shorts were premiered also on Canal+ Blue/Sport (Canal+ Niebieski/Sport), and in 2000 on Canal+ Yellow/Film (Canal+ Żółty/Film). During the breaks between shorts, the short scenes with LT characters were shown.

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    The first dubbing cast of LT/MM shorts (dubbed by Canal+):

    Krzysztof Tyniec – Bugs Bunny
    Mieczysław Gajda – Daffy Duck
    Ryszard Nawrocki – Porky Pig
    Włodzimierz Press – Sylvester
    Tomasz Kozłowicz – Speedy Gonzales
    Mariusz Leszczyński – Pepe Le Pew
    Mirosława Nyckowska – Tweety, Granny
    Włodzimierz Bednarski – Foghorn Leghorn
    Wojciech Machnicki – Marvin the Martian
    Jacek Czyż – Taz


    In 1993, Warner Home Video debuted in Poland, and WB made a new casting, in which the new dubbing cast for LT shorts was introduced. WB had been responsible for the order of the VHS/DVD releases for the next 15 years. After 31st August 2007, Galapagos Films replaced Warner Bros. Poland in releasing LT/MM shorts in DVD.

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    The second dubbing cast of LT/MM shorts (dubbed by WB/Canal+):

    Robert Rozmus – Bugs Bunny
    Stefan Knothe – Daffy Duck
    Ryszard Nawrocki – Porky Pig
    Włodzimierz Press – Sylvester
    Tomasz Kozłowicz – Speedy Gonzales
    Tomasz Marzecki – Pepe Le Pew
    Mirosława Krajewska – Granny
    Lucyna Malec – Tweety
    Sylwester Maciejewski – Foghorn Leghorn
    Włodzimierz Bednarski – Marvin the Martian
    Jacek Czyż – Taz


    The dubbing for the LT/MM shorts was produced and done by MASTER FILM studio.


    In 1997 Canal+ started to air pre-1948 LT/MM shorts with the new dubbing cast and the first VHS release under Warner Home Video debuted: "The Stars of Space Jam". Then in mid-1998-1999 the pre-1948 package of LT/MM shorts with Polish dubbing was sold to Turner Entertainment, and on 4th September 2000 the pre-1948 shorts debuted on Cartoon Network Poland.

    In 1997-1999 WB released in Poland other VHS releases: "Carrotblanca", "Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote: "Chariots of Fur"", "Bugs Bunny and Friends", "Bugs Bunny and Friends 2", "The World of Animals with Bugs Bunny" and "New Adventures of Bugs Bunny". Some of the shorts were released with low-pitched audio on their PAL prints.

    In 1998 Cartoon Network started to air Road Runner and Coyote shorts. Like in Canal+ these shorts were undubbed.

    As I previously mentioned, on 4th September 2000 pre-1948 Looney Tunes shorts debuted on Cartoon Network Poland. Some of the shorts were removed in 2002 when Hungarian and Romanian Audiotracks were introduced, and later in 2005 from the schedule.
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    In 2001 WB released the last VHS in Poland with LT shorts called "Looney Tunes Presents", and in this release, the previously "restored" masters were used.


    In 2004, WB started with releasing Looney Tunes shorts in DVD as a part of Looney Tunes Golden Collection. All the post-1948 masters used mostly new dubbing ordered by WB or VHS dubbings. In few pre-1948 shorts new dubbing version was also introduced instead of Canal+ dubbings.



    On 2nd May 2005, pre-1948 LT package debuted on Boomerang Europe and due to the Boomerang premiere of LT shorts, new GC masters were used for 4 shorts + Book Revue started to air with original opening and ending titles intact with new dubbing (replacing the previously aired Blue Ribbon print with Canal+ dubbing). Cartoon Network PL continues airing LT shorts until the 4th January 2009. On Boomerang LT shorts were aired until the end of December 2015 (despite removing most shorts due to the lacks of Bulgarian dubbing).

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    Due to Boomerang Europe launch, new dubs were introduced for 3 shorts, and later in 2007 "The Unbearable Bear" was redubbed.

    In 2007, WB planned to release Golden Collection 3 DVD with all shorts which were dubbed in Polish language, but due to the low sales of Golden Collection 2 in Poland and in other European countries, some shorts were omitted, but f.eg.: Wideo Wabbit with new dubbing ordered for DVD was aired by TV Puls 2 in 2015-17.

    After 3rd March 2007 Canal+ stopped airing LT/MM shorts and in the next years the post-1948 package dubbing was sold to Warner Bros. and Turner Entertainment.

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    In 2010 Galapagos Films released in Poland The Essential Bugs Bunny DVD and Looney Tunes: Super Stars 3 DVDs, and a year later The Essential Daffy Duck European Version was introduced. All these DVD masters from 2010 were lectored despite that the dubbing for most shorts was produced and released via VHS, TV or DVD.


    In 2011, TV Puls started to air both pre- and post-1948 packages of Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies shorts. Most post-1948 shorts were aired with the new dubbings created for Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volume 1-3 releases. In 2012-13, the Looney Tunes airings from TV Puls were moved to TV Puls 2. Here in 2015, some pre-1948 shorts were aired with their restored transfers used in DVD’s and Blu-Ray.

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  6. Daffyrocks

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    But didn't the Romanian and Hungarian tracks got already introduced in 2002? :p
     
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    That's right. Sorry for my mistake.
     
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    I remember when in 2011, Tooncast (before 2014, Tooncast airs the pre-1948 Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies shorts) airs the 1935 Merrie Melodies short named "Mr. and Mrs. is a Name" (starring Buddy and Cookie), but in 2 altered versions, the first version (a.p.p. version), does not include the intro of the APP, but by a notice of the M.P.A.A.(Hays Code Production), and that warning disturbs me several times (and I even had nightmares about this)... but in the second version (remastered in 1995 by Truner), does not include that notice...
     
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    You mean this one, no?

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  11. Cool_Cat

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    Black and white shorts are scheduled on the Boomerang pop up channel. I just saw Fish Tales and The Film Fan on the schedule. Are you guys excited? :p
     
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    For Black & White Shorts Who Look Better Than The Porky Pig 101 Release?, YES!
     
  13. StickerBoy

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    Like a jackrabbit in a sugar rush, most certainly.
     
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    Jeepers Creepers will air on Thursday. I remember it uncut.
     
  15. Daffyrocks

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    One of the very few channels which still dares to air black and white shorts. Keep it like this, Boomerang Italy, and give others good ideas about channel management.
     
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  16. NewBogus :)

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    Don't forget to RSI La 1.
    Meanwhile, I found this:

    This has US B/W CN rerun of "You Ought To Be in Pictures", 1940
     
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  17. DVDLooney

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Porky's Preview aired on Boomerang Italy. Then again, it probably already has. I don't know to be quite honest.
     
  18. Future_Sam

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    How come Boomerang USA always air the same shorts over and over then? I've always wanted to see the black and white or the colorized shorts.
     
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    I uploaded the original title card music to Fish Tales. Enjoy!
     
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    Boomerang Latin America aired the A.A.P print for Draftee Daffy just now. I saw it.
     

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