Looney Tunes Altered Versions Discussion v2 (or, the Looney Tunes Dumping Ground)

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  1. bowlowgnah

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    NO HARASSMENT/CYBERBULLYING EDITION.

    Discuss differences between versions of various Looney Tunes cartoons here. You can also dump your HQ Looney Tunes cartoons here, if you're generous.

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  2. Daffyrocks

    Daffyrocks "I'm Daffy the Gaucho!"

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    Thank you for making a new thread :)

    Now I think we all learned our lesson and know to just ignore annoying users, cause after all they will get tired after a period if no one interacts with what they are doing. :D We just need to live these users in their own world, and stick to the main topic of the thread. And let the admins see themselves the problems if it doesn’t work alerting them from the beginning.

    So yeah, I hope we can all be peaceful :)
     
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  3. Dreth

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    I approve of this post as the OP for the original discussion.
     
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  4. bowlowgnah

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    Agreed.
     
  5. StickerBoy

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    This is highly agreeable.

    Also, I figuired I'd move this from the old thread to the new.

    List of computer-colorized Looney Tunes shorts found:
    Gold Diggers of '49 (1936)
    Plane Dippy (1936)
    Alpine Antics (1936)
    The Blow Out (1936)
    Fish Tales (1936)
    Shanghaied Shipmates (1936)
    Porky's Pet (1936) (@NewBogus :) uploaded a copy of that version on Dailymotion)
    Porky The Rainmaker (1936)
    Porky's Poultry Plant (1936) (Cool_Cat has a copy of that version)
    Porky's Moving Day (1936) (Framegrab courtesy of @Nodog: https://i.imgur.com/1LDLbeS.png)
    Milk And Money (1936)
    Little Beau Porky (1936)
    The Village Smithy (1936)
    Porky In The Northwoods (1936)
    Porky The Wrestler (1937)
    Porky's Road Race (1937)
    Picador Porky (1937)
    Porky's Romance (1937) (uploaded in Spanish by SoloCartoons on Vimeo. Thanks, Nodog)
    Porky's Duck Hunt (1937)
    Porky And Gabby (1937)
    Porky's Building (1937) www.dailymotion.com/video/x3s9oca
    Porky's Super Service (1937)
    Porky's Badtime Story (1937) www.dailymotion.com/video/x3s9oc9
    Get Rich Quick Porky (1937) (Framegrab courtesy of @Nodog: https://i.imgur.com/3hLn6Ig.png, Big thanks to The Cartoonist Kid for the full short)
    Porky's Garden (1937)
    Rover's Rival (1937)
    The Case Of The Stuttering Pig (1937)
    Porky's Hero Agency (1937) (found on Dailymotion, although camcorder-recorded)
    Porky's Poppa (1938)
    Porky's Five And Ten (1938)
    Porky's Hare Hunt (1938)
    Porky The Fireman (1938)
    Porky's Party (1938)
    Porky's Spring Planting (1938)
    Porky And Daffy (1938)
    Porky's Naughty Nephew (1938)
    The Daffy Doc (1938) (Framegrab courtesy of @Nodog: https://i.imgur.com/oGiUoNp.png)
    Porky The Gob (1938)
    The Lone Stranger And Porky (1939)
    It's An Ill Wind (1939)
    Porky's Tire Trouble (1939)
    Porky's Movie Mystery (1939)
    Chicken Jitters (1939) (Framegrab courtesy of @Nodog: https://i.imgur.com/PT2XxqA.png)
    Porky And Tea Biscuit (1939)
    Porky's Picnic (1939)
    Wise Quacks (1939)
    Porky's Hotel (1939)
    Jeepers Creepers (1939)
    Naughty Neighbors (1939)
    Porky The Giant Killer (1939)
    Porky's Last Stand (1940)
    Africa Squeaks (1940) (Opening and closing found by Classic Cartoon Vault)
    Ali-Baba Bound (1940)
    Pilgrim Porky (1940)
    Slap Happy Pappy (1940)
    Porky's Poor Fish (1940)
    You Ought To Be In Pictures (1940)
    The Chewin' Bruin (1940)
    Porky's Baseball Broadcast (1940)
    Patient Porky (1940)
    Calling Dr. Porky (1940)
    Prehistoric Porky (1940) (Cool_Cat has a copy of that version, although it's in a bad quality)
    The Sour Puss (1940)
    Porky's Hired Hand (1940)
    The Timid Toreador (1940)
    Porky's Snooze Reel (1941)
    Porky's Bear Facts (1941)
    Porky's Preview (1941)
    A Coy Decoy (1941)
    We, The Animals, Squeak! (1941) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDYGPMNDwpk
    The Henpecked Duck (1941)
    Notes To You (1941) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft4RNpFhIek
    Porky's Midnight Matinee (1941) https://vimeo.com/210060375
    Porky's Pooch (1941) https://vimeo.com/219587103
    Porky's Pastry Pirates (1942)
    Who's Who In The Zoo (1942)
    Porky's Cafe (1942)
    Daffy's Southern Exposure (1942) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHd17CiEsuI
    The Impatient Patient (1942) www.dailymotion.com/video/x561mcl
    The Daffy Duckaroo (1942) (Big thanks to The Cartoonist Kid)
    Porky Pig's Feat (1943)
    Puss N' Booty (1943) https://vimeo.com/198257310

    List of computer-colorized Looney Tunes shorts yet to be found:
    Boom Boom (1936)
    Westward Whoa (1936)
    Porky's Railroad (1937)
    Porky's Double Trouble (1937)
    Porky At The Crocadero (1938)
    What Price Porky (1938) (clips from that version are found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL-ttSP8ipE)
    Porky's Phoney Express (1938)
    Wholly Smoke (1938) (Cam-recorded footage from that version formerly found, but removed)
    Porky In Wackyland (1938)
    Porky In Egypt (1938) (A clip from that version of the short is found among this video: https://youtu.be/K-ZJsf1D6G0?t=12m)
    Kristopher Kolumbus Jr. (1939)
    Polar Pals (1939)
    Scalp Trouble (1939)
    Pied Piper Porky (1939)
    The Film Fan (1939)
    Pilgrim Porky (1940) (Framegrabs can be found at IMDB's page for the short)
    Porky's Ant (1941)
    Porky's Prize Pony (1941)
    Meet John Doughboy (1941) (Although a framegrab from the short is found online: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon...Yjc5ODFhXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMzI5NjUyMDM@._V1_.jpg)
    Confusions Of A Nutzy Spy (1943)
    Scrap Happy Daffy (A few bits from the version can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFQycXswVTs)

    Now onto the lists of Turner redrawn colorized B&W pre-1934 Merrie Melodies cartoons.

    List of Turner redrawn colorized B&W pre-1934 Merrie Melodies shorts found:
    Smile, Darn Ya, Smile! (1931)
    You Don't Know What You're Doin'! (1931)
    You're Too Careless With Your Kisses! (1932)
    Young And Healthy (1933)
    I Like Mountain Music (1933)
    We're In The Money (1933) (Cool_Cat has a copy of this version, albeit not in the best quality)

    List of Turner redrawn colorized B&W pre-1934 Merrie Melodies shorts yet to be found:
    One More Time (1931)
    Red-Headed Baby (1931)
    Pagan Moon (1932)
    Freddy The Freshman (1932)
    Crosby, Columbo, And Vallee (1932)
    Goopy Geer (1932)
    It's Got Me Again! (1932)
    Moonlight For Two (1932)
    The Queen Was In The Parlor (1932)
    I Love A Parade (1932)
    I Wish I Had Wings (1932)
    A Great Big Bunch Of You (1932)
    Three's A Crowd (1932)
    The Shanty Where Santy Claus Lives (1933)
    One Step Ahead Of My Shadow (1933)
    The Organ Grinder (1933)
    Wake Up The Gypsy In Me (1933)
    Shuffle Off To Buffalo (1933)
    The Dish Ran Away With The Spoon (1933)

    Also, I have a lead-in for the computer-colorized version of "Porky in Wackyland": http://www.angelfire.com/mt2/muppetdanny/carnet.txt (just look for Volume 30 of the list)

    Apparently MuppetDanny (or, by his Youtube username, Daffy Duck) has a copy of that version of the short, but let us not ask/pester (preferably ask) him for it.

    But if anyone other than MuppetDanny has a copy of the computer-colorized version of "Porky in Wackyland" or any of the computer-colorized Looney Tunes shorts or colorized pre-1934 Harman-Ising Merrie Melodies shorts (those are quite a rarity around her) that are yet to be found, just PM me.
     
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  6. bowlowgnah

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    @StickerBoy The "Chicken Jitters" image is from "Get Rich Quick Porky".
     
  7. StickerBoy

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    Golly! Thanks for pointing that out. I'll fix it.
     
  8. Cool_Cat

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    I'll try to join the discussion and let's see what happens.

    I have an entire post from another site (which I could just copy and paste over here) about all the versions aired on Italian TVs, but now I'll focus just on the B&W shorts,

    First of all, in the early 90s WB muxed the old Italian audio with the newer prints on (almost) all the shorts they owned at the time, and they used the redrawn versions for the Porky shorts. Some of you may have seen these titles from Boomerang Italy rips:

    Then with the new dubs handles by Time Out Cin.Ca, the black and white prints were used for the entire Sunset package and the redrawn versions for the Harman Ising shorts.

    WB decided to remux the Time Out Cin.Ca dubs with the computer colorized versions (and sometimes they ended up using the redrawn ones by accident, like in A Coy Decoy, Chicken Jitters, The Timid Toreador, The Impatient Patient, etc), and these copies were run by Boomerang Italy and RSI La 1 (except for The Daffy Doc, who knows why).

    Rai 2 instead had both B&W and colorized copies, and that's why they ended up showing both of them (like on Daffy's Southern Exposure).

    Now, these are all the Harman Ising shorts aired on Rai 2, they aired only ONCE in 2004. Sadly they won't give me the recordings (yet), so please don't ask for them. And yes, I saw all of them.

    Smile Darn Ya Smile
    Freddy the Freshman (car drawn pink, yes...)
    It's Got Me Again
    The Queen Was in the Parlor
    I Wish I Had Wings
    Three's a Crowd
    The Shanty Where Santy Claus Lives
    We're in the Money

    Then the earliest non Harman Ising Merrie Melodies shorts aired were Pop Goes Your Heart, Mr and Mrs is the Name and The Country Boy.

    As for the Porky shorts, I didn't have the time to check all of them but I saw these colorized versions (I won't count the B&W ones I saw, like Naughty Neighbors):

    Fish Tales (altered intro)
    Porky's Poultry Plant (also aired on RSI La 1, looks brilliant)
    Get Rich Quick Porky
    Porky's Garden
    The Case of the Stuttering Pig (also aired on RSI La 1, looks amazing)
    Porky's Spring Planting
    The Lone Stranger and Porky
    It's an Ill Wind
    Porky's Tire Trouble
    Chicken Jitters (redrawn)
    Porky's Poor Fish
    The Chewin Bruin
    Prehistoric Porky
    The Timid Toreador (redrawn)
    A Coy Decoy (redrawn)
    We the Animals Squeak
    Daffy's Southern Exposure
    Porky Pig's Feat

    From Boomerang Italy I know an user who has a lot of VHS rips, including Polar Pals, but he's busy now so I'll have to wait. Please do not ask him.

    As for RSI La 1, I hope after re airing all the shorts they won't repeat the cycle. They air all the B&W shorts colorized (except The Daffy Doc which was the HD print). I have Porky and Teabiscuit, Notes for You, Porky's Poppa, etc
     
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  9. Future_Sam

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    Thank goodness this is back. I was trying not to be involved in anything at all.
     
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  10. LooneyTuney18

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    Thanks @bowlowgnah for creating this new version of the thread, I didn't want to be involved in threatening too. Hopefully we won't have any problem here.
     
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    I already have Porky's Poultry Plant and Notes for You on my cloud drive. Just ask me privately.
     
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    I just saw the Italia 1 TVrip of "The Fair Haired Hare" and for some odd reason the (unrestored) PAL print of "The Fair Haired Hare" has the English audiotrack in NTSC pitch despite being at PAL speed, although the foreign dub track is in PAL pitch and speed. This also happens on broadcasts of the cartoon's PAL print on other PAL TV channels such as Boomerang France, Boomerang Italy, etc.

    Note that this Cartoon Network Australia TVrip of the cartoon above is censored: two lines of dialogue by Yosemite Sam shutting Bugs up as well as Sam's line "Cut it out!" are muted out. Fortunately on Boomerang France, Boomerang Italy and Italia 1, this cartoon aired uncut.


    This same problem above (about the English track in NTSC pitch and the dub track in PAL pitch despite the video in PAL speed) also occurs on PAL prints of "Rabbit Every Monday"

    Rabbit Every Monday PAL print (English track in NTSC pitch but PAL speed)

    Rabbit Every Monday PAL print (French dub track in PAL pitch and speed, also applies to other foreign dubs)
     
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  13. Daffyrocks

    Daffyrocks "I'm Daffy the Gaucho!"

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    That's for sure CN Turkey, not Australia
     
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    Many early post 48 Bugs Bunny shorts have low pitched audio, like 8 Ball Bunny, Upswept Hare, etc. The m/e track is fine instead.
     
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    Thanks A Lot!
     
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    I still remember back in 2015 or earlier, we had a collection of Looney Tunes/MM shorts that (for some reason) had the audio set up so that some Russian voiceover would play as a default, though we can switch it to english.

    While most of the russian tracks were Single Voice Overs from different "Lectors", there's that one MVO (multivoice over), and if available, the 2x2 which is the dub audio.

    Most of those Russian Prints (if they're laserdiscs), appear to be knockoff laserdisc versions if I can recall.
     
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  17. LooneyTuney18

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    That's because some Russian people actually made this collection
     
  18. Daffyrocks

    Daffyrocks "I'm Daffy the Gaucho!"

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    So they were fan-made lectors??
     
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    I Guess
     
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    2x2TV dubbing on MM/LT RU torrents is official dubbing ordered by WB. For the first time, I've heard it was done by SV-Media in 2003/2004 to air on STS (the same channel which aired T&J shorts lectored in Russian). Later, the STS/2x2 dub of LT/MM pre-1948 shorts was used to be aired on Cartoon Network RSEE and Boomerang CEE.
     

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