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All Cartoons Should Have Anime Style Openings and Closings

Discussion in 'The toonzone - General Animation Discussion' started by dumbfoolkid5, Jun 1, 2018.

  1. dumbfoolkid5

    dumbfoolkid5 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly what i mean. I know about the shows identity and how they do things in Japan when it comes to their music industry, but I want to say this. After seeing so many anime openings no one else can compare but some came close. The style, the direction, and best of all NO SOUND EFFECTS OR SAYING THE SHOWS TITLE! I can't stand the sound effects, it kills the mood of the music. I know it should be good to be different but I say every cartoon should have an anime style opening. What do you say?
     
  2. PapaGreg

    PapaGreg Drinking my sorrows

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    I always wanted western animations to have different openings and endings played by different bands and muscians in fact its hoe I found my favorite Japanese artist and songs
     
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  3. Frank Coufal

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    I think that's very creative. In fact, I envision some cartoon ideas of my own that I have being like that, one involving the intro being set to the song "Shine", sung by Vanessa Amorosi.
     
  4. GustlyWind

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    I'd love to see this just to listen to longer openings and endings. Having a 1:30 intro would be pretty cool (thought it would be hard to do since most episodes today last roughly 11:00)
     
  5. Fone Bone

    Fone Bone Matt Zimmer

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    Is that a command or a request? Because in my household we say "Please."

    Just kidding.















































    We never say please.
     
  6. Red Arrow :D

    Red Arrow :D Proud Beneluxer

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    No, Japanese theme songs last way too long. It's like they never end. I get tired of the show before the episode has even properly started. (There are exceptions of course)
     
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  7. Classic Speedy

    Classic Speedy What the... [QUACK!] Staff Member Moderator Reporter

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    Anime openings are beautifully animated, that's hard to deny. But I rarely like the songs that go with them. But I know I'm in the minority on that.

    That does bring up a side question: Why are nearly all anime openings/endings exactly 1:30 in length? I've seen very few exceptions, so there must be some reasoning behind it. Like, is it a contractual thing?
     
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  8. I.R. Shokew

    I.R. Shokew DISGRACED and Rooting ONLY for Underdogs

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    Good luck with that. No one is going to ever do this until certain things like royalties on music (e.g.: large fees to play copyrighted music on anything) are a thing of the past. Don't count on that happening EVER.

    Furthermore, are there any American musicians out there who would willingly play their music as OPs and/or EPs over a medium that isn't as well regarded as it should be???

    Lovely as your idea sounds, it's going to require mass upheaval on a lot of things, particularly the elimination of royalties && the majority's less than favorable opinion on cartoons in general not being seen as just "kid's stuff", m8.

    And despite my harsh grasp of reality on things..... I would love if Western fare had some of their own OPs and EPs for themselves, someday. However, they need to be good (as in no "what's hor in pop-culture chart-cluttering garbage".), or else it won't be worth even considering trying to do, if you ask me.
     
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  9. dumbfoolkid5

    dumbfoolkid5 Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't have to be the full 1:30, it could be 30 seconds. And the closing doesn't have to be shown, save it for the blue ray. And it could be any form of music from anybody, doesn't have to be a big name band, anybody even the show's cast. Like the opening to American Dad. Anyway, some live action sitcom openings from the 80's and 90's are like anime openings why can't cartoons have that?

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  10. Nobodyman

    Nobodyman Well-Known Member

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    But if we did that we wouldn't get great western cartoon openings like Ducktales, or Inspector Gadget, or Animaniacs, or Tiny Toons, or Pinky and the Brain, or TMNT, or X-men, or Beetlejuice.
     
  11. dumbfoolkid5

    dumbfoolkid5 Well-Known Member

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    Well, the thing is they may be good as a kid, but i think kids deserve better. And if Japan can evolve from that kind of practice more or less why can't the U.S. We could do better if we change the opening practice and not include sound effects and release a soundtrack for TV cartoons more often.
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  12. SweetShop209

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    I think the reason why longer openings and closings aren't as commonplace would be due to money. TV networks want their shows to make money, with commercials being the best way to go about. Shorter theme songs are more common since it means more time for commercials. Another practice that's been done is to slightly speed up the episode and run the credits while the show is still playing. It's happened with SpongeBob recently. I remembered seeing The Gift Of Gum running at about 10:30 minutes on dvd, yet at only slightly above 10:00 minutes on recent tv airings. The only type of shows that seem to avoid this are PBS Kids and Disney Junior shows, since, except for movies, they don't have commercials running during the programs, hence the minute long intros (though Ducktales 2017 still has a minute long theme song).
     
  13. ShadowBlinky

    ShadowBlinky The Evil One

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    If they didn't bring the back the theme song, it would likely be considered blasphemy (no matter how good the reboot is).
     
  14. SweetShop209

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    Well, they do have a 30 second version of the intro, but only if the episode is too long (I think it was only used for the Great Dime Chase episode).
     
  15. Mr.O

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    As if any cartoon channel would dish out the millions for chart-cluttering garbage
     
  16. dumbfoolkid5

    dumbfoolkid5 Well-Known Member

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    It could still be the same song, I'm saying it could be better without any sound effects like the original and include some credits.

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  17. RandomMe

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    That would be a waste of money for some shows.
     
  18. dumbfoolkid5

    dumbfoolkid5 Well-Known Member

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    Then might as well make every opening like Regular Show.

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  19. I.R. Shokew

    I.R. Shokew DISGRACED and Rooting ONLY for Underdogs

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    Oh, don't be surprised... If it meant making a profit to someone, they would do it if they can get away with it.
     
  20. Gatordragon

    Gatordragon Putting the fun in funeral.

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    Nice slippery slope you have there, dumbfoolkid. *rolls eyes* I agree with RandomMe, not every cartoon needs a flashy, lengthy anime-style opening. Sometimes less is more.
     
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