Should moderen WBA toons do ad?

[Psycho Fox]

Think about it. They can bring WB money give WBA something to do (that is if they have nothing better to do anyway) plus promote the shows them selves. The possibilities are endless. Yes I would rather see new eps, A whole new show for the matter but hey I would be happy if they just milked what they got.

Babs and Harriet can do a commercial for air time. The Girls of WB can do countless feminine products.

Brain can do a print ad for American Express it can have the line You can't take over the world without it Or programable calculators The power you need to do just about anything including planning to take over the world

Minerva Mink could do a car commercial. Minerva parks her flashy convertable, a burly guy walks up while Minerva drools Announcer (Yakko's voice): Our car is a guaranteed to attract the opposite sex
The guy walks past Minerva and eyes the car while speaking car jargoon (obviously more interseted in the car) Minerva turns arround and sticks her nose up a bit frustrated only to see drooling fan boy which just keep starting at her Announcer: AAAAAAA your milage may very

Fifi could also do a car ad. Fifi chases a skunk hunk which is on foot while she is in the car which the commerical is tring to sell Announcer: Finnishing first is not always the first thing on your mind but in (insert car name here) you will always have the power to

Dizzy could do an ad for Five Star. Shot of Dizzy doing what he does best Announcer: Our stuff can take the abuse from any student and we mean any

Plucky could dp a Seven Up (or Sprite or any softdrink) commercial. Announcer: Our drink won't make you smart Shot of plucky slamming his head on his desk after getting a F- (with a can of (insert name of drink here) on his deak natch) or make you a good athlete Plucky: Goal!!!! Buster:Uhhh Plucky that's our net Announcer: Or make you famous Plucky: I don't see what KWB sees in you Camera pans to reveal Pikachu Pikachu: Pika? Announcer: But it is refreshing Plucky: Better be this cheap ad studio paid me in the stuff I gota fire my agent.

Slappy could do an commercial for a security company. A guy runs into a building and locks the doors behind him Security guard:What up? Guy:I told off some crazy old squirl and now she's chasing me you gota help me Slappy appears at on the other side of the glass doors yelling something but can't be heard on this side of the glass Guard:Don't worry this place is protected by (insert name here) it is impregnable. Slappy torches the car outside Guy: My CAR!!!! Guard: You should have parked it in side the building

There are far more ads that the could be done but for now thats all I can think of.

[RockItShipper]

Originally posted by Psycho Fox
The Girls of WB can do countless feminine products.

What's that supposed to mean?

[DR. BELCH]

--there's the age-old connection between rabbits and pregnancy tests.... >8D

And welcome back once again, querida!

[Anthonynotes]

...the problem is, commercials for the products mentioned (credit cards, etc.) usually are based on appealing to the general public as broadly as possible in tone/characters used/etc....hence, it'd be highly unlikely that you'd ever see Plucky, Brain or Yakko in such an ad (since they aren't as recognizable to Joe Sixpack, who might've at best barely heard of them), and the reason that one finds Superman or a Looney Tunes character (cultural icons, established for decades, and recognizable to almost everyone due to constant exposure and cultural ingrainedness) would be used for American Express (in Supes' case) or car ads (such as the ads with Taz in them). The fact that Plucky, Brain, and Yakko hail from dead series (and ones produced for non-prime-time TV within the past 10 years, no less) is another knock against them (and in Plucky's case, admakers would sooner use the more-widely-recognizable Daffy way before the little green duck...). And the "why does KWB use you?" crack would be way too "inside joke"-ish (and too critical of their current cash cow) for it to be on a commercial that'd be airing during "Will and Grace"/"Big Brother"/pro football/etc. etc....

Sorry if I sound cynical, but that's the way I see it. Unless/until there's a 90's-based nostalgia craze (a la the current 70's one and the likely-coming-soon 80's one), we probably won't be seeing Pinky, Yakko, or Plucky again anytime soon in a "new" appearance (and even then, such a nostalgia-based-craze would probably be just repackaging old episodes and/or releasing new t-shirts to cash in on them, a la the "Superfriends" or "Fat Albert"). As far as AOL-Time Warner and the general public's concerned, A!/TTA were just a pretty-entertaining Saturday morning cartoon, and thus lumped in the same category as, well, the "Superfriends"/"Fat Albert"/Bullwinkle (or any cartoon that isn't in prime-time, i.e. the "Simpsons" or "South Park") in terms of thought put towards them.

Still, the thought of Brain or the Warners in a new ad that wasn't based on recycled stock footage would be nice :-)

-B.

[happyheathen]

Originally posted by DR. BELCH
--there's the age-old connection between rabbits and pregnancy tests....

Unfortunaltely, the rabbit test has been obsolete since before most (almost all) of the people on this board were born.

No...

it looks like Psycho has stuck his foot in it this time - let's see him worm his way out...


d

Again: Men are idiots, Women are Borg

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by RockItShipper
What's that supposed to mean?

Well bodywash, bath oils, shampoos and other products like that.

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by Brainatra
...the problem is, commercials for the products mentioned (credit cards, etc.) usually are based on appealing to the general public as broadly as possible in tone/characters used/etc....hence, it'd be highly unlikely that you'd ever see Plucky, Brain or Yakko in such an ad (since they aren't as recognizable to Joe Sixpack, who might've at best barely heard of them),

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There are more known then most think when ever I drive my custom car with the pic of Fifi on the hood I always get people talking to me about TTA when I stop. Same when people hear me talking about one of the modern WB shows usally one person buds in and say they remeber it. Plus above all remeber the #1 rule in marketting tell the people what they want ie if you do 5 marketting blitz using these characters then people who remeber them might try and be fans again and those that are not might see what all the hype is about as for us fans well we probably just be happy and keep doing what we are doing.

And the "why does KWB use you?" crack would be way too "inside joke"-ish (and too critical of their current cash cow for it to be on a commercial that'd be airing during "Will and Grace"/"Big Brother"/pro football/etc. etc....

Look I took marketting in High School in I know of people that work in the ad studios in T.O and that thinking is classed as OLD SCHOOL. Now it is considered hip to poke fun at your self Hell Pokémons ratings will probably go up becouse of that. If the suits think other wize just act supprised say your one of those execs, well your too old establishment for anyone to help you make sure the investors are there though since investors don't like to invest in old establishments

[The Mad Hatter]

I've got to agree on Brainatra on this one... TTA and A! have plenty of fans, but there are plenty more people out there who haven't heard of them. Out of all my co-workers, many of whom are my age, only one or two of the scores know who Pinky and the Brain are.

Also, you need to think like an advertiser. Would you rather pay upwards of a million dollars to create a stupendous ad featuring a character that's recognized by, say, 20% of the populace (and here I'm being optimistic), or a character that's recognized by 95% of the populace, like Bugs or Supes.

As for commercials that "poke fun at themselves"... of course that's huge. The Weather Channel started that trend five years ago, and after that pretty much everyone else has. The problem is that "poking fun at yourself" is a lot different from an inside joke. Everyone can laugh at people being overzealous weather-watchers, while much, much fewer people would recognize inside jokes that require intimate knowledge of the show. Again, it all involves making the ads reach as wide an audience as possible.

If the suits think other wize just act supprised say your one of those execs, well your too old establishment for anyone to help you make sure the investors are there though since investors don't like to invest in old establishments

So instead of arguing an ad on its own merits, you'd rather belittle the exec's beliefs? Nice tactic, there.

And just because something isn't "old school" doesn't automatically make it successful. Thousands of internet companies thrived back in 98-99 mainly because they were new and exciting, and not because they offered a decent product (that kind of thinking was "old school"). Now these companies are dropping like flies. The moral? New is good, but only if you put some thought into it.

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
I've got to agree on Brainatra on this one... TTA and A! have plenty of fans, but there are plenty more people out there who haven't heard of them. Out of all my co-workers, many of whom are my age, only one or two of the scores know who Pinky and the Brain are.

Also, you need to think like an advertiser. Would you rather pay upwards of a million dollars to create a stupendous ad featuring a character that's recognized by, say, 20% of the populace (and here I'm being optimistic), or a character that's recognized by 95% of the populace, like Bugs or Supes.

Yhea but Bugs cost serious money while TTA,A! and the rest would be far cheaper plus it is safer. Say they want to try and do a condom commercial if they try it Lola then it has a higher chance of backfiring then with Minerva

As for commercials that "poke fun at themselves"... of course that's huge. The Weather Channel started that trend five years ago, and after that pretty much everyone else has. The problem is that "poking fun at yourself" is a lot different from an inside joke. Everyone can laugh at people being overzealous weather-watchers, while much, much fewer people would recognize inside jokes that require intimate knowledge of the show. Again, it all involves making the ads reach as wide an audience as possible.

Still, anyone could see it is poking fun at Picachu you don't need to what is happening at KWB to understand most people know Pokémon and will kinda get it

So instead of arguing an ad on its own merits, you'd rather belittle the exec's beliefs? Nice tactic, there.

Actully it is common to market your ad to execs by preasuring them. Most execs just don't get it thus ad studio last resort is to back them into a corner

And just because something isn't "old school" doesn't automatically make it successful. Thousands of internet companies thrived back in 98-99 mainly because they were new and exciting, and not because they offered a decent product (that kind of thinking was "old school"). Now these companies are dropping like flies. The moral? New is good, but only if you put some thought into it.

Yhea but that kinda of thinking most investors aviod it like the pleage once they know that is how they think since it lead Commadore, Eatons, AT&T, Bell, IBM, Nortell and others into serious problems.

[Sharklady]

> Unfortunaltely, the rabbit test has been obsolete since before most (almost all) of the people on this board were born. <

It's not unfortunate for the rabbits.

> The Girls of WB can do countless feminine products.<

Ah, I wouldn't use that term in reference to "bodywash, bath oils, shampoos and other products like that." In common usage, 'feminine products' usually means items used during menstruation.

[happyheathen]

Originally posted by Sharklady
> Unfortunaltely, the rabbit test has been obsolete since before most (almost all) of the people on this board were born. <

It's not unfortunate for the rabbits.

mourning rabbits? Aren't they a little small for you?

d

p.s. - does anyone know how, exactly, the rabbit test worked?
i.e. what was extracted/injected and what caused the death?

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by Sharklady
> The Girls of WB can do countless feminine products.<

Ah, I wouldn't use that term in reference to "bodywash, bath oils, shampoos and other products like that." In common usage, 'feminine products' usually means items used during menstruation.

Well in marketting the term is used more loosely. Anyway yhea you could do that too and it makes my point clearer. Lets say they do a commercial for such products with one of the WB female characters from the moderen cartoons (after 1989). Lets say it makes some people upset due to the fact it is somewhat in bad tase so what does WB do??? Mostly the people that would be upset is us the fans big deal we are always upset with them and odds are their client will be happy with their ad so WB can sit on their ass can count their money. Now lets say WB do the same with a female from LT what does WB do?? Panic it will quickly snowball not only will fans be upset but regular people and the client too since they will get an ear full too.

[Jack]

p.s. - does anyone know how, exactly, the rabbit test worked?
i.e. what was extracted/injected and what caused the death?

The pregnancy section of Snopes' Urban Legend page explains it pretty well: Snopes


Jack
the lazy one.

[Anthonynotes]

>>>Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
I've got to agree on Brainatra on this one... TTA and A! have plenty of fans, but there are plenty more people out there who haven't heard of them. Out of all my co-workers, many of whom are my age, only one or two of the scores know who Pinky and the Brain are.

Also, you need to think like an advertiser. Would you rather pay upwards of a million dollars to create a stupendous ad featuring a character that's recognized by, say, 20% of the populace (and here I'm being optimistic), or a character that's recognized by 95% of the populace, like Bugs or Supes.
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>>Yhea but Bugs cost serious money while TTA,A! and the rest would be far cheaper plus it is safer. Say they want to try and do a condom commercial if they try it Lola then it has a higher chance of backfiring then with Minerva
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Yes, but with more money comes, as Hatter notes, recognition by almost everyone over the age of three (through Looney Tunes airing on TV for 40 years most likely). Vs. the small number of adults that probably watched TTA (not being a prime-time cartoon, probably not a huge number, especially among anyone over the age of 25 who wasn't turned on by their kids/someone else/wasn't an animation buff---if not for me, I doubt my mother would've ever heard of Pinky and the Brain.) As Hatter noted, asking random adults if they've heard of PatB or A! is likely to yield a small number of responses (as I've discovered), vs. Bugs Bunny or Superman (cultural icons)...

And as for the notion of cartoon characters like the Looney Tunes pitching *condoms* of all things: aside from the seriousness of said product in question (birth control/reducing the risk of contracting STD's/HIV) making it rather inappropriate for someone like, say, Taz (let alone the *notion* of such an ad), I'm sure Warner Bros. would sooner order 500 all-new A! episodes than make such a commercial (plus, the number of parents/teachers-type-groups that would complain about such an ad using "cartoon [read: children's] characters that kids could see"...).


>>>As for commercials that "poke fun at themselves"... of course that's huge. The Weather Channel started that trend five years ago, and after that pretty much everyone else has. The problem is that "poking fun at yourself" is a lot different from an inside joke. Everyone can laugh at people being overzealous weather-watchers, while much, much fewer people would recognize inside jokes that require intimate knowledge of the show. Again, it all involves making the ads reach as wide an audience as possible.
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>>Still, anyone could see it is poking fun at Picachu you don't need to what is happening at KWB to understand most people know Pokémon and will kinda get it
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MY MOTHER: "Pikachu"? What's that?

ME: It's one of those Pokemon character-things...

MY MOTHER: (Sounding annoyed) Oh, *yeah*...the students I work with wanted to see that movie when we went on an outing, but I dropped them off and went to see something else instead...

That's assuming most people *do* know what Pokemon is (beyond being "some sort of kids, uh, thing with some sort of video game or creatures or, something"...as I've seen from some adults wondering what the heck it is) let alone that there's a TV cartoon based on it (older adults especially), or that the WB even *airs* cartoons for that matter ("Kid's W-what?")). When the WB is mentioned, most adults are likely to think of "Dawson's Creek" or "Buffy" (well, not anymore in that show's case, I guess)...

>>>And just because something isn't "old school" doesn't automatically make it successful. Thousands of internet companies thrived back in 98-99 mainly because they were new and exciting, and not because they offered a decent product (that kind of thinking was "old school"). Now these companies are dropping like flies. The moral? New is good, but only if you put some thought into it.
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>>Yhea but that kinda of thinking most investors aviod it like the pleage once they know that is how they think since it lead Commadore, Eatons, AT&T, Bell, IBM, Nortell and others into serious problems.<<

I guess like I said before, for most people, cartoons are something for "kids" if it's not in prime-time (and also presume that it doesn't exist if *not* in primetime and/or isn't heavily marketed [see: "Rugrats", which has some adult recognition, moreso than A!/PatB does..and they've made "Rugrats" car commercials. Of course, its success came from strong network support and a strong timeslot....*cough*, *cough*]). Cartoons like A! are usually something they might come across by chance with the way those shows were marketed/advertised (esp. since most adults are working during the afternoon when they were airing). Meanwhile, Bugs Bunny (the "old school" toon) are what most adults find they're nostalgic *for*, having grown up watching them heavily (the LT's being rerun for decades)...same for Superman (who's been on TV since its infancy, and on radio before that). Hence, advertisers, who wish to go for the broadest audience, won't care that Supes and Bugs were created sixty years ago---they have recognition on a broad scale built-in, they're safe, family-friendly, popular choices, and they're cultural icons....what more could most advertisers want? And what would make them want to skip Supes or Bugs in favor of, say, the Flash or Plucky, especially if we take the creativity of a lot of advertisers into account... (Granted, Baby Ruth made a commercial with a Flash-like hero and Hawkman of all characters, but admittedly, this incidence of a minor character being used probably isn't nearly as common as someone more widely seen...and the average person watching would probably not know that Hawkman was a comic book character).

(Big breath) Um, OK, all done with my spiel now :-)

-B.
Who'd *like* to see the Flash in a commercial....sneakers? Um, high powered sports cars? Erm...uh....

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by Brainatra

Yes, but with more money comes, as Hatter notes, recognition by almost everyone over the age of three (through Looney Tunes airing on TV for 40 years most likely). Vs. the small number of adults that probably watched TTA (not being a prime-time cartoon, probably not a huge number, especially among anyone over the age of 25 who wasn't turned on by their kids/someone else/wasn't an animation buff---if not for me, I doubt my mother would've ever heard of Pinky and the Brain.) As Hatter noted, asking random adults if they've heard of PatB or A! is likely to yield a small number of responses (as I've discovered), vs. Bugs Bunny or Superman (cultural icons)...

Look you don't need people to recognize since I'm suggesting WB do this to promote both product and show but they do have the add benifit of the that TTA,A! and the rest are lest popular in the states? meaning in Europe in Japan you got a far heavier density of fans thus they can if they want to do commercials their they can do a huge killing they can use the US to test ads before they hit their primary markets.

And as for the notion of cartoon characters like the Looney Tunes pitching *condoms* of all things: aside from the seriousness of said product in question (birth control/reducing the risk of contracting STD's/HIV) making it rather inappropriate for someone like, say, Taz (let alone the *notion* of such an ad), I'm sure Warner Bros. would sooner order 500 all-new A! episodes than make such a commercial (plus, the number of parents/teachers-type-groups that would complain about such an ad using "cartoon [read: children's] characters that kids could see"...).

Exactly but it could be done with the other toons. If as I said if it fails no one would care but us. parents/teachers type groops wouldn't care since most wouldn't make the connection. Once you start limmiting your self like that you lose a lot of bussniess. Political complains both forin and domesitic, grass root orginaizations (Elmyra can do an ad showing what not to do when owning a pet), promotional shorts for unions. The list is endless.

That's assuming most people *do* know what Pokemon is (beyond being "some sort of kids, uh, thing with some sort of video game or creatures or, something"...as I've seen from some adults wondering what the heck it is) let alone that there's a TV cartoon based on it (older adults especially), or that the WB even *airs* cartoons for that matter ("Kid's W-what?")). When the WB is mentioned, most adults are likely to think of "Dawson's Creek" or "Buffy" (well, not anymore in that show's case, I guess)...

Ok you have a point but if it is aired on KWB your odds of people getting it go up dramaticly.

I guess like I said before, for most people, cartoons are something for "kids" if it's not in prime-time (and also presume that it doesn't exist if *not* in primetime and/or isn't heavily marketed [see: "Rugrats", which has some adult recognition, moreso than A!/PatB does..and they've made "Rugrats" car commercials. Of course, its success came from strong network support and a strong timeslot....*cough*, *cough*]). Cartoons like A! are usually something they might come across by chance with the way those shows were marketed/advertised (esp. since most adults are working during the afternoon when they were airing). Meanwhile, Bugs Bunny (the "old school" toon) are what most adults find they're nostalgic *for*, having grown up watching them heavily (the LT's being rerun for decades)...same for Superman (who's been on TV since its infancy, and on radio before that). Hence, advertisers, who wish to go for the broadest audience, won't care that Supes and Bugs were created sixty years ago---they have recognition on a broad scale built-in, they're safe, family-friendly, popular choices, and they're cultural icons....what more could most advertisers want? And what would make them want to skip Supes or Bugs in favor of, say, the Flash or Plucky, especially if we take the creativity of a lot of advertisers into account..

becouse with LT if you screw up you screw up big even if it is something as simple as air travel of bank service if you make it stink other clients might lose confidence. With the other you really got nothing to lose you can experiment and do what ever the hell you want the only toes you'll be steeping on is fans.

[The Mad Hatter]

Psycho Fox, I think the problem we're seeing in your statements is that, unfortunately, you can't think like a cartoon fan in the world of advertising. Even "edgy" ads have been meticulously planned and tested to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. Now, combine that with the average American's stereotype that cartoons are a "kid thing," and you see the problem. While I personally would love to see, say, the Brain in a commercial for energy bars ("they give me the energy to TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!"), the average American's reaction to it would be "what, are they trying to market this to kids? Ech, I don't want to buy this." But when the product is hawked by an accepted cultural icon like Bugs Bunny or Superman, Americans would suppress their thoughts that cartoons are kiddie things because of the familiarity. Yes, animation fans would love it if WBA characters appeared in ads, but the average American wouldn't. I'm not saying that this view is right, or represents things as how they should be.

You say that advertisers would have nothing to lose if they made these ads. Of course they have a lot to lose, specifically, money. It takes money to make the ads, and money to get them aired. If they're only effective on 100 animation fans, their combined buying power is miniscule, and the company would have effectively lost a ton of money on the ads. Not to mention product reputations. Did you ever see the McDonald's commercial where Ronald McDonald was hanging around bars and doing adult things? Just about everyone was creeped out by it, and McDonald's attendence actually DROPPED a bit as a result. The same thing would happen if people saw a condom ad by Lola _or_ Minerva, because that would seriously disturb anyone who isn't a hard-core furry, and condom sales would be negatively affected. So the companies have plenty to lose, and explains why advertisers obscessively examine and test the ads they create.

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by The Mad Hatter
Psycho Fox, I think the problem we're seeing in your statements is that, unfortunately, you can't think like a cartoon fan in the world of advertising. Even "edgy" ads have been meticulously planned and tested to appeal to as wide an audience as possible. Now, combine that with the average American's stereotype that cartoons are a "kid thing," and you see the problem. While I personally would love to see, say, the Brain in a commercial for energy bars ("they give me the energy to TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!"), the average American's reaction to it would be "what, are they trying to market this to kids? Ech, I don't want to buy this." But when the product is hawked by an accepted cultural icon like Bugs Bunny or Superman, Americans would suppress their thoughts that cartoons are kiddie things because of the familiarity. Yes, animation fans would love it if WBA characters appeared in ads, but the average American wouldn't. I'm not saying that this view is right, or represents things as how they should be.

Yhea but there are far more fans overseas since KWB is only a american thing (which costed viwers) second do you remeber Lupo the Butcher that was on MTV and other ads? Lupo was even less knowen the TTA or A! is now but hey for a while the ads were popular just do the same thing and treat each ad independantly like you just created the characters just for that ad.

. The same thing would happen if people saw a condom ad by Lola _or_ Minerva, because that would seriously disturb anyone who isn't a hard-core furry, and condom sales would be negatively affected. So the companies have plenty to lose, and explains why advertisers obscessively examine and test the ads they create.

OK I agree with the money but you got to think condom companies put ads on the back of busses and have slogons like Welcome to condum country even if they do the ad wrong so what it is another condum ad and even though a fraction of fans might get upset close to none would stop watching the show becouse of it and if done right it could do wonders for the product and the cartoon think about it that cartoon could get a flood of older viewers meaning they would then instantly have the same setup as european stations which has the choice of a wideer range of ads to air meaning more money.

[Anthonynotes]

>>Yhea but there are far more fans overseas since KWB is only a american thing (which costed viwers) second do you remeber Lupo the Butcher that was on MTV and other ads? Lupo was even less knowen the TTA or A! is now but hey for a while the ads were popular just do the same thing and treat each ad independantly like you just created the characters just for that ad.
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Perhaps there are more fans of, say, Yakko or Brain overseas...but it doesn't change the fact that Warner Bros. isn't likely to want to spend the money to advertise two characters that even overseas are less well-known on a global scale than, well, Bugs/Superman are (Superman I once read is supposedly recognizable on a scale on par with Sherlock Holmes and Mickey Mouse...that type of recognition is far more appealing to your average mega-conglomerate than someone who might not be recognizable to, say, the average joe in Brazil [where they print Portuguese Superman comics]...).

>>OK I agree with the money but you got to think condom companies put ads on the back of busses and have slogons like Welcome to condum country even if they do the ad wrong so what it is another condum ad and even though a fraction of fans might get upset close to none would stop watching the show becouse of it and if done right it could do wonders for the product and the cartoon think about it that cartoon could get a flood of older viewers meaning they would then instantly have the same setup as european stations which has the choice of a wideer range of ads to air meaning more money. <<

The other aspect might be that you're also not thinking like the average *American* (vs. Canadian/European) person...the U.S. being a more conservative country than Canada/Europe, one usually only finds such types of ads in larger cities (and ones on the East or West coasts at that), or on late-night TV (or occasionally radio). Seeing cartoon characters advertised (let alone ones that *might* be recognizable by someone who recalls seeing them while, say, watching A! with their 7-year-old/at 4 in the afternoon) isn't going to do much for sales I imagine (and quite frankly, the thought of Minerva/etc. being used for condom ads gives *me* the creeps...and I'm probably the biggest [in Belch-esque terms] "bleeding heart liberal" person on this forum....)---why would a manufacturer of something *blatantly* meant for adults (an all-ages-appeal sex-related product---vs. your cited example of an ad for MTV, a channel which for better or for worse doesn't hold much appeal to anyone past high-school or college age) want to use figures that connotate with *children* (AVERAGE GUY: "Eewww...they're pitching *that* with a *cartoon*?!"). Throw in the strong presence in the U.S. of various "family" groups that'd raise all kinds of heck over such an ad (the same guys who thought Mighty Mouse for instance was snorting cocaine would have a field day with even a vaguely recognizable character being used for such an ad campagin) and, well, the odds of such an ad coming about (at least in the U.S.) is *nil*. Less than *nil*. And as previously stated, it doesn't matter how many cartoon fans would get upset by such ads---the total number of animation fans is negligible compared to the size of the general public and *their* reactions...

-B.

[Psycho Fox]

Originally posted by Brainatra
Perhaps there are more fans of, say, Yakko or Brain overseas...but it doesn't change the fact that Warner Bros. isn't likely to want to spend the money to advertise two characters that even overseas are less well-known on a global scale than, well, Bugs/Superman are (Superman I once read is supposedly recognizable on a scale on par with Sherlock Holmes and Mickey Mouse...that type of recognition is far more appealing to your average mega-conglomerate than someone who might not be recognizable to, say, the average joe in Brazil [where they print Portuguese Superman comics]...).

yes but a) it most likely be cheaper, not everyone can afford Bugs this would be for people that don't have the time to create their own characters but don't have the money for the likes of Bugs. Second this is dual purpose it will also give promotion to the show so thus foreign station that run the show as well will be willing to charge less to air the ads. LT already has critical mass thus stations won't give discounts for it.

The other aspect might be that you're also not thinking like the average *American* (vs. Canadian/European) person...the U.S. being a more conservative country than Canada/Europe, one usually only finds such types of ads in larger cities (and ones on the East or West coasts at that), or on late-night TV (or occasionally radio). Seeing cartoon characters advertised (let alone ones that *might* be recognizable by someone who recalls seeing them while, say, watching A! with their 7-year-old/at 4 in the afternoon) isn't going to do much for sales I imagine (and quite frankly, the thought of Minerva/etc. being used for condom ads gives *me* the creeps...and I'm probably the biggest [in Belch-esque terms] "bleeding heart liberal" person on this forum....)---why would a manufacturer of something *blatantly* meant for adults (an all-ages-appeal sex-related product---vs. your cited example of an ad for MTV, a channel which for better or for worse doesn't hold much appeal to anyone past high-school or college age) want to use figures that connotate with *children* (AVERAGE GUY: "Eewww...they're pitching *that* with a *cartoon*?!"). Throw in the strong presence in the U.S. of various "family" groups that'd raise all kinds of heck over such an ad (the same guys who thought Mighty Mouse for instance was snorting cocaine would have a field day with even a vaguely recognizable character being used for such an ad campagin) and, well, the odds of such an ad coming about (at least in the U.S.) is *nil*. Less than *nil*. And as previously stated, it doesn't matter how many cartoon fans would get upset by such ads---the total number of animation fans is negligible compared to the size of the general public and *their* reactions...

Well if it is that bad then just only run it outside the states some fan will evenully put it on the net for US fans.

[DR. BELCH]

True, the rabbit test hasn't been used since--what? the Depression?--but the expression "the rabbit died" is still with us, much like "he was hoisted by his own petard", though you seldom see people firing little cannons these days. So with this in mind, why not clap ol' Bugs on a box of pregnancy tests? ;D There's also the old joke about rabbits and their ability to breed rapidly, which I've seen used to full advantage in a credit card commercial ("Love is in the air....").

Yes, the word "feminine product" has a distinct connotation associatedwith a woman and her...well...naughty bits. Shampoos, deodorants, bath gels, and such are referred to in most catalogs as "personal care items".

Yes, I'd rather not see a Tiny Toon trying to sell me hemorrhoid cream or the Brain doing college recruitment ads for X University.

Babs, Lola, and Minerva may not be hawking prophalactics...but the voice of Elmyra, Cree Summer, is a Durmex Sheik spokeswoman. Make of that what you will....