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    Amid further rumormongering is the tidbit from earlier in the year that Sony definitely won't be showing new hardware at E3 2012. Ideally the rumor will be put to bed after this (kinda interesting how more info gets out around the start of April, hm?), though my guess is that instead this anonymous source will continue putting stuff out there that will get reported on the grounds that everything might be true except for the theoretical 2013 timetable.

    I'd note though that the previously asserted 10-year lifespan for the system would set the window for release to approximately 3-4 years from now, admittedly a little sooner if Sony gets motivated to beat Microsoft to the punch.

    To no one's surprise, I advise healthy skepticism. I remember so much bad information from when "Nintendo Revolution" rumors were around...and what I suspect is that the rumors we're hearing now are equivalent of "Wii HD" rumors that got around quite some time before Wii-U was something anybody had heard anything about. Those had grains of truth, but the reality turned out to be something very different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GWOtaku View Post
    Amid further rumormongering is the tidbit from earlier in the year that Sony definitely won't be showing new hardware at E3 2012. Ideally the rumor will be put to bed after this (kinda interesting how more info gets out around the start of April, hm?), though my guess is that instead this anonymous source will continue putting stuff out there that will get reported on the grounds that everything might be true except for the theoretical 2013 timetable.

    I'd note though that the previously asserted 10-year lifespan for the system would set the window for release to approximately 3-4 years from now, admittedly a little sooner if Sony gets motivated to beat Microsoft to the punch.
    Sony could call another PlayStation Meeting, separate from the rest of the industry. This is how Vita was announced.

    Also, the ten year life cycle thing doesn't refer to them not releasing new hardware within ten years. Both the PS1, and PS2 had ten year life cycles. The PS2 launched 7 years into the PS1's life, and the PS3 six years into the PS2's life. All it means is that Sony pledges support for ten years. It's a promise that once next gen comes around Sony won't just drop support for the PS3 like Nintendo dropped the GameCube, and Microsoft the Xbox at the first second possible.

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    Well, the problem with Gran Turismo is that each installment in the main series keeps selling less and less and the developers want to keep adding more and more, which means higher development costs. I actually think GT5 is really cool and better then Forza if only for the free updates to add more content. I can't find how much it costs to make GT5, but I have to assume it was really high, because it was pretty unpolished when it first launched.
    All racing games have seen decline this generation, but that doesn't change the fact Gran Turismo is still #1. Though it needs to be noted that Gran Turismo 5 Prologue + Gran Turismo 5 is higher than Gran Turismo 4 Prologue + Gran Turismo 4. That's not decline. The issue with GT5 is how long it took to come to market. GT games traditionally have long legs, and it seems to be true here. This is all on a userbase that is a fraction of the PS2's.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacoHunter View Post
    Uncharted is their best seller, but the thing is you compare it to the other flag ship titles like Mario or Halo it does sell quite a bit less. We can't look at these sales in a total vacuum. And what about Sony's other series like Killzone, Resistance, or Infamous? I'm not trying to say these are bad games, because I think they're great games and probably the best reason ever to own a PS3 over a Xbox. The problem is people don't seem to agree.
    Uncharted is not their best seller. As of March of this year the Uncharted franchise sits at 14 million units shipped. That figure includes 4 games. Gran Turismo 5 and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue combined have shipped just under 13 millionand counting.

    The other series you mentioned are the second tier pack. Resistance is basically a dead IP once Burning Skies on Vita ships next month. Insomniac is dropping the series, and it hasn't been a good seller since the first one. Killzone exists because the Dutch government heavily subsidizes the studio who makes it. As for Sucker Punch, obviously the sales for the inFamous series are well enough for Sony to want to purchase them.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacoHunter View Post
    They keep buying Xboxes, and I don't know why. Because Microsoft doesn't have anything anymore. They sold off most of their IPs and closed down most of their internal development studios. Sony on the other hand is turning out gold and people just aren't buying.

    That's why I don't think there will be a PS4. Sony is pushing as hard as they can, yet they're still behind Microsoft.

    Why do you think Microsoft downsized their internal studios? Microsoft couldn't afford it. So they cut cost. Sony is pretty much in the same boat. So odds are we'll see them downsize their studios or maybe just pull a Sega and become a "software" company, for their games division at least. Other circumstantial evidence, HP leaving the PC hardware market, and I recall hearing Dell was doing that too, but I can't seem to find the article i was reading about that anymore.
    Imagine how much worse off the PS3 would be without those Sony exclusives. Brands aren't built in a day, and I'm certain Sony feels the same as well. Microsoft doing a firesale of their internal studios will make it difficult for them to retain talent in the future, and given that they realistically only have 3 IPs (Halo, Fable, and Forza) that isn't a good thing.

    An option like going third party isn't really applicable to SCE since they're so much bigger than SEGA. Sony would have to shut down a tonne more studios simply because there would be less platforms to support (No Vita, and no PlayStation Suite).

    They're not going anywhere. There will be new PlayStation hardware. Heck, Polyphony Digital - who is Sony's biggest studio in terms of success, developed the assets for Gran Turismo 5 in a higher resolution than the PS3 can handle simply because it'll make for an easy transition next generation.
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