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    Mandouga is offline Senior Member
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    I'm Sorry, But...(Regarding Samba de Amigo Wii)

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    Playing pretend can only go so far. It's one thing to use a pretend sword when playing games like The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, but for Samba de Amigo Wii, "pretend maracas" just aren't enough.

    In my personal, honest, and unbiased opinion, the game isn't going to be as much fun as it would be if we at least had maraca-shaped Wii Remotes to play with. Now bear in mind that it's not the game itself that's the problem (if anything, I think the game itself will be great), it's the fact that we will only have two Wii Remotes (or the Wii Remote+Nunchuk combo) to play with; something that was made clear to me in an article in this month's Nintendo Power. In other words, the article made it clear to me that their minds were made up. In my opinion, this game is going to become a real travesty because of that.

    While I do plan to get the game (whenever I get my own Wii system), I am nonetheless disappointed that neither Gearbox Software (the developers), nor Sega will be taking this game to the level it needed to be taken. They didn't have to make an expensive mat/sensor/maraca combo like they did with the Dreamcast version. They know that the Wii's wireless capabilities were enough, yet both parties chose to take the easy way out (again, in my opinion).

    I don't know about everybody else, but personally, I can't "play pretend" all the time. Obviously it wouldn't be feasible to make a realistic looking sword controller. Heck, I can even settle for using my Wii Remote as a pretend "light gun" for those types of games. However, this game is a horse of a totally different color. It was clearly possible to, again, make at least a maraca-shaped Wii Remote, or even a "shell" to put the regular Wii Remote in since a maraca is only slightly bigger than a Wii Remote, and since a maraca is a harmless musical instrument; it would be one shell for each Wii Remote.

    In short, without at least maraca-shaped Wii Remotes, I personally feel that the fun factor will be cut in half, not because of the game itself, but rather because the developers (and Sega) chose to rely more on the "let's pretend" factor which in my opinion can't apply within every context. I'll understand if some or all of you think that this thread is trivial, but for me while the fun factor is the most important part of any game, when it comes to systems like the Wii, it's also important to make the experience as "immersive" as possible, and to me, "let's pretend" does not necessarily always equate to immersive, which in turn does not always equate to fun, and as I said before, I feel the game won't be as much fun because it focuses more on the "let's pretend" factor.

    Okay, I'm done now. I just needed to get this off my chest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandouga View Post
    Playing pretend can only go so far. It's one thing to use a pretend sword when playing games like The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, but for Samba de Amigo Wii, "pretend maracas" just aren't enough.

    In my personal, honest, and unbiased opinion, the game isn't going to be as much fun as it would be if we at least had maraca-shaped Wii Remotes to play with. Now bear in mind that it's not the game itself that's the problem (if anything, I think the game itself will be great), it's the fact that we will only have two Wii Remotes (or the Wii Remote+Nunchuk combo) to play with; something that was made clear to me in an article in this month's Nintendo Power. In other words, the article made it clear to me that their minds were made up. In my opinion, this game is going to become a real travesty because of that.

    While I do plan to get the game (whenever I get my own Wii system), I am nonetheless disappointed that neither Gearbox Software (the developers), nor Sega will be taking this game to the level it needed to be taken. They didn't have to make an expensive mat/sensor/maraca combo like they did with the Dreamcast version. They know that the Wii's wireless capabilities were enough, yet both parties chose to take the easy way out (again, in my opinion).

    I don't know about everybody else, but personally, I can't "play pretend" all the time. Obviously it wouldn't be feasible to make a realistic looking sword controller. Heck, I can even settle for using my Wii Remote as a pretend "light gun" for those types of games. However, this game is a horse of a totally different color. It was clearly possible to, again, make at least a maraca-shaped Wii Remote, or even a "shell" to put the regular Wii Remote in since a maraca is only slightly bigger than a Wii Remote, and since a maraca is a harmless musical instrument; it would be one shell for each Wii Remote.

    In short, without at least maraca-shaped Wii Remotes, I personally feel that the fun factor will be cut in half, not because of the game itself, but rather because the developers (and Sega) chose to rely more on the "let's pretend" factor which in my opinion can't apply within every context. I'll understand if some or all of you think that this thread is trivial, but for me while the fun factor is the most important part of any game, when it comes to systems like the Wii, it's also important to make the experience as "immersive" as possible, and to me, "let's pretend" does not necessarily always equate to immersive, which in turn does not always equate to fun, and as I said before, I feel the game won't be as much fun because it focuses more on the "let's pretend" factor.

    Okay, I'm done now. I just needed to get this off my chest.
    If you haven't played the game yet, then yes, this thread is trivial.

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    They probably decided not to make the Maracas because it'd be another peripheral that wouldn't ever be used by anyone else and needlessly inflate the cost of the game package, further restricting how many people would purchase it.

    Also, ALL videogames are "pretend"...it's kinda what they're all about.

    In any case, the game won't even be out for a few months, so try giving it a shot before you judge it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strollymonster
    Also, ALL videogames are "pretend"...it's kinda what they're all about.
    That's not what I mean.

    I'm not judging it. I'm just saying that while the game will be fun to play, it won't be as fun without maraca-shaped Wii Remotes. I'm not saying the game is bad (as you just pointed out, the game hasn't come out yet). I'm saying that no matter how good the game turns out (which it will), it nonetheless won't feel the same with just two standard Wii Remotes. Also from what I've seen, you're going to have to "point" them at the screen, instead of holding them up...like you would with maracas.

    Again, I'm not judging this book by its cover; I never prejudge games before they come out. I'm just saying that the "let's pretend" context isn't appropriate for this particular game. Further, I said I'd buy the game. However, to me it won't feel as fun as it would be with the aforementioned maraca-shaped Wii Remotes. Even though the game hasn't come out yet, it still feels as if Sega can't be bothered to acknowledge the series' origins as an arcade game (which features maraca controllers). That's just how I feel about it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, right?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandouga View Post
    That's just how I feel about it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, right?...
    right you are, but everyone here at toon zone is entitled to a thread with some sort of substance

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