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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Juneau View Post
    The New Adventures of Lucky Luke: After many fails into made the lonesome cowboy into a TV series (Whatever is animated or live-action, they are weak at best), the 2001-2003's Xilam combine to be the show i want to see of Morris' character through my childhood. A series which try to catch the spirit of the original comics and have plots which can be aim to everyone. While it's far to be perfect (There's some characters appeared in the comics which their names was changed for no reasons.), the lasts episodes are among the best of the bunch while the firsts episodes are the least remarkable. And this is by Morris supervision this series was produced before his death months before the firsts runs. A great show which 10 years later, i still enjoy for what it looks but that the Xilam peoples no longer shows respect in their spin-offs than in this final series from the good Xilam days.
    Heh, didn't knew that Lucky Luke show was disliked. If so, then count me in as one of those who liked it. I thought it was a very good adaptation of the old comics. The animation and voiceacting was great and they did a excellent job of making the artstyle very reminiscent of the one from the comics. Also loved the Go West movie that was animated by the same company if I recall right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itchy View Post
    Heh, didn't knew that Lucky Luke show was disliked. If so, then count me in as one of those who liked it. I thought it was a very good adaptation of the old comics. The animation and voiceacting was great and they did a excellent job of making the artstyle very reminiscent of the one from the comics. Also loved the Go West movie that was animated by the same company if I recall right.
    I can't tell you if it was disliked or not but the 2001's series was a lovely presentation of Morris' characters. What i liked from the series is the Xilam producers and writers did a amount of good effort for respected the spirit of the originals comics and for one time, it works! Sadly, for most peoples who have fond memories of this show, it's not this adaptation, but the 1980's/1990's cartoons series they remembered (One is made by Gaumont/Hanna-Barbera and the other by a France studio which the production was castrate to the cheapness.). As a Francophone myself, this is a favorite of mine. Those who have read all the time the original comics series will probably have some gripes into this TV series, even.

    For Go West. Sorry but i didn't like it so much. The story is inconherent and are just limited to add jokes in every minutes. Shame that the only great moment of this picture is the Morris and René Gosciny caricatures like hotels managers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenPoundHammer View Post
    * The Simpsons. I'm sorry, but the fact that they're the color of French's mustard is just off-putting. I'm a visual guy, so if a show looks bad, that sometimes makes it hard for me to like it. I don't like the voice acting either — many of them are just grating. Nor do I like Homer as a character; I generally dislike "dumb" characters. Granted, I've seen only a handful of episodes, but I don't recall ever laughing or even smiling once.
    If you've really only seen a handfull of episodes and didn't even smile once then there is a very high risk that those episodes you saw are from the post-season 9 era, which not even Simspons-fans tend to like. You MUST make sure to watch at least one episode from the season 3-8 era (known to fans of the series "Golden age") before you decide whether the show is anny good/funny or not. Because honestly, the difference between those seasons and the seasons afterwards are so big that it almost feels like two completely different shows that just happens to feature characters that looks the same...

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    One show I like that everyone else seems to hate is Wedding Peach.

    Most people tend to view this show as the redheaded stepchild of magical girl anime series. While it's not the best show ever made, I do enjoy this series. I even think this show does some things better than Sailor Moon, like I think the main character of Wedding Peach, Momoko, is more likable than Usagi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rattis1 View Post
    If you've really only seen a handfull of episodes and didn't even smile once then there is a very high risk that those episodes you saw are from the post-season 9 era, which not even Simspons-fans tend to like. You MUST make sure to watch at least one episode from the season 3-8 era (known to fans of the series "Golden age") before you decide whether the show is anny good/funny or not. Because honestly, the difference between those seasons and the seasons afterwards are so big that it almost feels like two completely different shows that just happens to feature characters that looks the same...

    I have seen some of the Golden Age episodes and they still did little for me. Furthermore, i just find the show to be visually unappealing.
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    Here is one show I got that is sometimes frowned by some hardcore animation buffs, epsecially when I mention a specfiic episode. Well, it was more of a Golden Age theatrical cartoon series like or . The early ones where there was a choice between sound and silent were great for them, but people began hating the

    Screen Songs - Sure it's probably the most formulaic series Famous Studios cranked up, even worse than Casper and all of the others in the Harveytoon package (plus including 50's Famous Popeye), but you got to look at it's novel idea- several gags and then a character (or in the black-and-white Fleischer ones, a popular singer), asks the audience the famous phraase "Follow the Bouncing Ball" you're in for a musicial treat. It's historically important due to the string of imitators that followed even in the 40's hiatus, the introduction/demonstration of sound before Mickey Mouse's "Steamboat Willie", and the many videos it inspired. Name me sing-along video series that was partially inspired by the Screen Songs.....

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    I dont get why thete was hate for this show. I liked it

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    Lately I've been on a huge Terrytoons kick. I recently broke out dozens of VHS tapes and have been enjoying hours of classic cartoons. I never understood why these cartoons are often belittled by animation historians.


    As for cartoons that everyone else likes and I don't pretty much any Anime (I prefer the term "Japanamation") While I enjoyed series like Voltron, and Star Blazers all the shows of today are pretty much the same thing: two guys playing a game with monsters. I can't stomach it anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice Boss View Post
    all the shows of today are pretty much the same thing: two guys playing a game with monsters. I can't stomach it anymore.
    The vast majority of modern anime series are nothing like that, it's just that those darn "games with monsters"-shows are the only modern anime that gets shown on TV here in the west...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice Boss View Post
    Lately I've been on a huge Terrytoons kick. I recently broke out dozens of VHS tapes and have been enjoying hours of classic cartoons. I never understood why these cartoons are often belittled by animation historians.
    I'm a big fan of the brief period when Gene Deitch took over. Lots of stylish cartoons in that era. And "Tom Terrific" is a pretty good kids cartoon as well.

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    I got bored on anime with poor creativity; don’t have the interest on character that looks monotonous.

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    Shows I Like That May Poke the Ire of Others:


    • Camp Lazlo: Sure, it doesn't live up to Rocko's Modern Life, but I like it. The characters were fun, the animation was nice, and the writing was actually nice at points (like the Emmy winning "Where's Lazlo").
    • Tom and Jerry Kids: I've actually heard some not-really-positive things about this show. However, I myself think it's the third best revival of the classic Tom and Jerry shorts (Tom and Jerry Tales is second, and the Jones shorts are the best, not counting the Hanna and Barbera originals, obviously), partly from nostalgia stemming from watching it on Cartoon Network during the early days of my cable company's coverage of it. Of course, I do genuinely like the show. Sure, the writing was sometimes weak, but it did have its merits. First, it was vastly superior to the Gene Deitch shorts (which I found insane, but forgetting to be funny), the 70's series (which shoehorned them into being friends), and the Filmation series (which, while a nice return to roots, was severely undermined by shoddy animation and sub-par writing). It also had some of the funniest gags in a Hanna-Barbera series (particularly the Droopy segments, which were a nice sentiment to the Tex Avery originals). It wasn't afraid to experiment with new characters, either (even is some were similar to other well-known characters). Yeesh, this paragraph's getting long, so I'd better move along...
    • T.U.F.F. Puppy: This show has seen quite some hate going towards it. I, however, find it to be one of Nickelodeon's best shows airing right now. It's funny, decently written, and has great characters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TenPoundHammer View Post
    Agreed on TUFF Puppy.
    Secondedon TUFF Puppy - it's flawed, but it's actually entertaining!! No lie there...
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    I think I've said this before, but there is a cartoon that gets a lot of love around here that I overall don't care too much for.

    Megas XLR

    Now let it be known I don't hate this show. I was one of the people who really liked the Lowbrow pilot and was hoping for it to be a great action/comedy cartoon but eh, outside of a couple of episodes (like the two part season finale "rearview rearview mirror") it didn't really live up to the potential. Mostly due to how well... poor the writing was. The main plot only occasionally went anywhere, the development of the characters didn't really gel that well (and some like Jamie were pretty annoying in some episodes. And when you make a Steven Blum character annoying you're doing something wrong) and for a comedy show, a lot of the jokes fell pretty flat. Since yeah how many gags were either "well at least it can't get any worse" or "oh look at how wacky that seemingly serious situation was taken". That and it's satire was pretty lacking. I mean the Voltron parody episode was alright but, "Ultra Girls" aka the Sailor Moon parody ep was pretty painful in how very little they even mocked the source material. It's sad because you can tell the people making it (well in some episodes anyway) had a real passion and were trying but eh, it really didn't work for me. And I don't think it's one of the great "short lived" cartoon cartoons that some people think it is. Since some fans think it's one of the best cartoons of the 2000's which yeah, so isn't the case. IMHO anyway.

    EDIT: Fixed to get my point correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo Ultra Mike View Post
    I think I've said this before, but there is a cartoon that gets a lot of hate around here that I overall don't care too much for.

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    I don't think you've got that quite right.

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    Some of the cartoons that I like that everyone hates or is apathetic about (mostly the latter):

    -All the Famous Studios works up until 1959ish (excluding Casper, Screen Songs and the Kartunes, these still don't grab me), while the Noveltoons and Herman and Katnip are certainly no match in terms of quality with the likes of Looney Tunes or the classic Disney shorts, I personally think they're not that abysmal as many make them out to be. Sure, I notice the repetition, but they still entertain me (especially the Baby Huey ones). Of course Popeye shorts were still being made too, but they don't seem to get as bad of a rep as the other Famous Studios series going at the time.

    -Bonkers: Probably my favorite post-1991 Disney Afternoon show that doesn't get as much appreciation as it should in my opinion.

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    Pretty much anything by Hanna-Barbera-While I don't hate Hanna-Barbera, I'm just not big on their stuff. I've never felt like the works of that studio belong in the same category as the likes of Warner Bros, Disney, MGM or even Jay Ward. It's not the limited animation; their shows, characters and humor have never really gelled with me for whatever reason. Even H-B's most major productions like The Flintstones, Yogi Bear and Huckleberry Hound were just 'meh' at best to me.
    -Very much agreed, this is really all I can say about 'over-appreciated' cartoons in my opinion for now. The only shows I found entertaining from HB was The Flintstones and The Jetsons, and even they pale in comparison to the Looney Tunes, Animaniacs, or even Dan Vs. as a recent example. It's for that reason that I probably wouldn't have enjoyed Cartoon Network from 1992-1997 so much (except for the pre-48 Looney Tunes and MGM Tex Avery shorts), when all it seemed to be was an HB rerun channel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenPoundHammer View Post
    Are there any series that you like that everyone else hates, or vice versa? Here are some of mine:

    Like that everyone else hates



    Hate that everyone else likes
    * The Simpsons. I'm sorry, but the fact that they're the color of French's mustard is just off-putting. I'm a visual guy, so if a show looks bad, that sometimes makes it hard for me to like it. I don't like the voice acting either — many of them are just grating. Nor do I like Homer as a character; I generally dislike "dumb" characters. Granted, I've seen only a handful of episodes, but I don't recall ever laughing or even smiling once.
    I agree with that. I never got interested in "The Simpsons" either. When it was on when I was younger I was put off by Bart Simpson cursing and all this adult humor in a cartoon. Yet, I still watch "Family Guy" and "The Cleveland Show." How ironic is that? Lol.

    Tom and Jerry Kids: I've actually heard some not-really-positive things about this show. However, I myself think it's the third best revival of the classic Tom and Jerry shorts (Tom and Jerry Tales is second, and the Jones shorts are the best, not counting the Hanna and Barbera originals, obviously), partly from nostalgia stemming from watching it on Cartoon Network during the early days of my cable company's coverage of it. Of course, I do genuinely like the show. Sure, the writing was sometimes weak, but it did have its merits. First, it was vastly superior to the Gene Deitch shorts (which I found insane, but forgetting to be funny), the 70's series (which shoehorned them into being friends), and the Filmation series (which, while a nice return to roots, was severely undermined by shoddy animation and sub-par writing). It also had some of the funniest gags in a Hanna-Barbera series (particularly the Droopy segments, which were a nice sentiment to the Tex Avery originals). It wasn't afraid to experiment with new characters, either (even is some were similar to other well-known characters). Yeesh, this paragraph's getting long, so I'd better move along...
    Yeah. That was a good show. I liked how they added a talking Tyke and Droopy's son Dripple, along with the humor from the classic Tom and Jerry shorts. So there was a little bit of old stuff and a little bit of new stuff there.

    Scooby Doo
    I never got the appeal of this show. The plots are awfully repetitive and the animation isn't very good. Plenty of things like unpainted bodyparts, looping/reuse of backgrounds and stiff movements. Not to mention as a kid I always got let down when the monster would turn out to be nothing more than a nutjob in a costume. But I did like the Zombie Island movie and the show where they were kids since those fixed a lot of the problems I had with the original show.
    Yeah. I'm a big Scooby fan, but I see what you're saying. I noticed quite a few people on these forums are anti-Scooby and well as being anti-Scrappy. The mystery format does get kind of repetitive at times, but keep in mind that is why they have been changing the formula over the years (examples include: The New Scooby-Doo Movies, 13 Ghosts and as you mentioned "Zombie Island").
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    I like, but not others:

    "Sidekick" - I remember this show getting such hatred when it aired on CN last year, but I thought it was a hoot.

    I hate, but not others:

    "The Amazing World of Gumball" - I gave it three episodes, then tapped out. All this time later, I can't imagine why people like this annoying, unfunny show...or delude themselves into liking it, for that matter.
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    Hated cartoons I like:

    Bakugan - Mostly a guilty pleasure in season 1, and even more in season 2, but I feel it got better as time passed. The Mechtanium Surge arcs were the best IMO, even if arc 2 dragged a bit at the beginning.

    Redakai - Extremely guilty pleasure. I wish it had more exposition though. Mookee the alien is probably my favorite character.

    Transformers Cybertron
    - The battles usually aren't one-sided, the CGI and hand-drawn animation flows well, the kids aren't really that annoying (and don't even get as much screentime as other anime kids)... so what's wrong with this series?

    The Problem Solverz
    - I think I like this series for the reason most people hate it. The terrible animation and Alfe's stupidity I feel are the draws of it.

    Secret Mountain Fort Awesome
    - Well, it is a really stupid show, but I feel that's what gives it its charm. I just don't take it seriously.

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