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    Should they make a new archie cartoon

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    with the sucuss of shows like total drama 6teen and stoked
    should cartoon network make a new Archie show one aimed at teens

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    There's already too many teen shows on CN sure i wouldn't mind watching Archie yet i think its better they go to another network.

    I don't know how a new Archie cartoon will end up since the last one was a combination of Scooby Doo and classic horror movies.
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    I'm not really sure what could be done to make Archie appealing to a modern audience. The central love triangle with Archie/Veronica/Betty would get old pretty quick and they'd have to do something to shake it up (the last cartoon just ripped off Scooby Doo and had the kids deal with monsters and mysteries). I'm not saying it can't be done; I just don't see how.

    Also, a TV show with a brand new continuity would have to explain to the audience (which will be mostly made up of young kids who know very little about the comics) why the hell these two smoking hot girls are so madly in love with a dork like Archie that they're willing to put up with him dating them both.
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    Heck yeah, that would be awesome. Also, the Archie love triangle isn't hard to buy at all for kids weaned on anime, there's a dork with a harem or at least two girls fighting over him in many of those.

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    Shouldn't this be discussed in the General Animation forum instead of the Cartoon Network Catoon forum? My inital answer would be yes. Archie is my favorite comic series. I love the battles between Archie, Reggie, Veronica, and Betty. I think the rest of the crew provides interesting twists, especially Jughead with his little sister, Moose with his lack of intelligence, and Dilton with his massive intelligence. The crew have a lot of stories that could be told still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigddan11 View Post
    Shouldn't this be discussed in the General Animation forum instead of the Cartoon Network Catoon forum? My inital answer would be yes. Archie is my favorite comic series. I love the battles between Archie, Reggie, Veronica, and Betty. I think the rest of the crew provides interesting twists, especially Jughead with his little sister, Moose with his lack of intelligence, and Dilton with his massive intelligence. The crew have a lot of stories that could be told still.
    Don't forget then in the older comics, Reggie tried to date Midge but got beated by Moose. It could be interesting to see cameos of other characters like Ethel, Chuck Clayton, Nancy, Jason and his sister Cheryl Blossom as well as some comic spin-off who wasn't animated like "That Wilkin boy" featuring Bingo Wilkin.

    Too bad then Sabrina and Josie & the Pussycats are owned by other studios because it could had been interesting to see a crossover cartoon with Archie although the old Filmation series showed a crossover when Sabrina get her own spin-off series in the early 1970s with the Groovy Goolies.

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    So I guess we're not counting Archie's Weird Mysteries then?

    Anyway, I'd have to say no. Archie could be adapted to a modern day audience, but I personally think that the market is over saturated with teen oriented cartoons as it is. Besides, with Archie, there's no twist. It's just a show about a group of ordinary teens going through ordinary problems and situations and nothing special or stand out about them. Archie's last TV adaptation had himself and the gang solving mysteries and interacting with monsters, creatures and creepies a la Scooby Doo just to stand out. Sabrina at least has magic to fall back on. You'd have to work hard to make magic boring. Without some sort of twist, Archie would just be lost in a sea of imitators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kid rabbit View Post
    with the sucuss of shows like total drama 6teen and stoked
    should cartoon network make a new Archie show one aimed at teens

    I wasn't aware that 6Teen and Stoked were considered successes on Cartoon Network.

    Anyway, even if someone wanted to make a new Archie series, I don't think it would be CN's call to make. The last 2 Archie TV shows, The New Archies and Archie's Weird Mysteries, were produced by DiC, so I'm getting the impression that they own the licensing rights to Archie. A new Archie show would likely air on Cookie Jar TV or This TV, depending on the content.
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    Since neither of the previous Archie cartoon series aired on Cartoon Network, at least to my knowledge, and this topic doesn't really fit with this board, I'll go ahead and move this thread to the General Animation Board.

    As for the topic itself, I could see them making a new Archie cartoon series. After all, the comics have been fairly successful to last for so many years. Though, I don't think that either one of the two previous Archie series were that popular, or at least not as popular as the comics themselves. If they did make a new series, I can't see it airing on Cartoon Network for some reason. I have an easier time seeing it on Cookie Jar TV or possibly The Hub, depending on what kind of shows it has one its lineup when it gets on the air.

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    Yes, I'd like to see a new Archie cartoon (that didn't have them chasing monsters *or* being junior high schoolers in tacky 80s clothes). Though I think Archie would also work as a live-action sitcom, given it's got everything Nick/Disney sitcoms would go for: a love triangle; a goofy best friend; the resident "jerkass"; teenagers in high school; the obligatory flustered-but-loving adults; and possibly the selling point, the lead characters are a rock group, the Archies... (Jonas brothers, Hanna Montana, etc. would prove that as a selling point).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brainatra View Post
    Yes, I'd like to see a new Archie cartoon (that didn't have them chasing monsters *or* being junior high schoolers in tacky 80s clothes). Though I think Archie would also work as a live-action sitcom, given it's got everything Nick/Disney sitcoms would go for: a love triangle; a goofy best friend; the resident "jerkass"; teenagers in high school; the obligatory flustered-but-loving adults; and possibly the selling point, the lead characters are a rock group, the Archies... (Jonas brothers, Hanna Montana, etc. would prove that as a selling point).

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    Hey, you're right. Archie is a tweencom and always has been. Heck, it even has another key similarity in that it was always aimed at younger kids than the high school kids it portrays.
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    Originally posted by Shawn Hopkins
    Hey, you're right. Archie is a tweencom and always has been. Heck, it even has another key similarity in that it was always aimed at younger kids than the high school kids it portrays.
    Not to mention the fact that though Archie's world isn't 100% realistic, it could easily be replicated in a life action kids show. Heck, not even that hard picturing the opening credits to the show over an Archie Gang song now. I don't know who would want it though, which is actually the problem of an Archie Cartoon Show.

    Okay though I'm not saying that Archie isn't still popular or anything considering it and it's series are still running strong, it isn't even the most sold Archie comic nowadays. The heyday of Archie has long since past and really, the only chance I see it getting a series (cartoon or life action) is if someone was interested in making a movie based off the Archie license, and that itself became popular enough to warrant extending the franchise. Otherwise I see it just being relegated to continue selling comics. These aren't the days of the 60's or 90's when people were more interested in making cartoon shows off of even moderatley popular franchises. You have to even have a lot of Nostalgia value or staying power or a strong franchise build to get cartoon shows if you aren't pushing an original idea now.
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    No, Brainatra has this right. Pitch this to Dan Schneider, Brainatra, and then give me some of the million bucks you make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Hopkins View Post
    No, Brainatra has this right. Pitch this to Dan Schneider, Brainatra, and then give me some of the million bucks you make.
    Schneider could sell it, but I think Scott Fellows would make the better Archie show.

    Make it like Ned's, just as goofy and well-structured, but be sure to keep the classic characters in character. Archie is still a schemer, Jughead is still a woman-hating sloth, Betty is still the underated blonde, Veronica is still a snobby brunette, Reggie is still a jerkwad, and so on. Also keep in the odder elements, like Hot Dog talking and the crazy janitor, which Daran Norris is born to play. Even bring back the weirder stuff no one remembers, like the RC races and Jughead's Time Police. Fellows can handle it all. You can even bring Sabrina in every now and then, and even make a Japanese tribute akin to the manga-inspired run her comics had not long ago.

    Big Time Rush is also proof that he can add a musical element into the show without going overboard with it for fans who don't care. The Archies can be added in maybe a few times a season and play some family friendly songs that'll get kids happy. To bring another Archie francise into the show, you could do a Josie crossover or two, and possibly even get Casey Kasem back in one episode so the bands could do a tribute to him.

    You could also take a break from the classic high school drama by having a yearly trip down memory lane into Little Archie's world, with an hour long special or so that gets into his weirder adventures.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstar View Post
    So I guess we're not counting Archie's Weird Mysteries then?

    Anyway, I'd have to say no. Archie could be adapted to a modern day audience, but I personally think that the market is over saturated with teen oriented cartoons as it is. Besides, with Archie, there's no twist. It's just a show about a group of ordinary teens going through ordinary problems and situations and nothing special or stand out about them. Archie's last TV adaptation had himself and the gang solving mysteries and interacting with monsters, creatures and creepies a la Scooby Doo just to stand out. Sabrina at least has magic to fall back on. You'd have to work hard to make magic boring. Without some sort of twist, Archie would just be lost in a sea of imitators.
    Archie always had some wierd stuff going on in the backround. Over the years they've built up several plots about wizards, space men, time travel, cavemen, and people with wierd extra senses.

    If they actually called attention to the weird stuff and acknowledged it as a part of the setting it'd stand out fine without adding any new characters.

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    Was there plans for a new Archie TV series following a 2004 talent search that never got off the ground after results?

    I know Archie is planning a web cartoon series called Archie Babies.

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    It's been a little strange to me that Archie Comics haven't made much attempts (that we've seen) to get their characters adapted in recent years. but they probably just can't get anything to work. 10 years ago, they had the Archie Mysteries show, Sabrina's sitcom and cartoon, and the Josie & The Pussycats movie but nothing since. I'd love to see Archie & his gang done well, whether it's animated or live-action, but maybe there really are just too many similar properties out there for it to really stand out.

    If anything does ever happen, I just hope that they don't give Veronica that southern accent. It never worked for me and how I always imagined her voice. It' would be like if they gave Reggie a Brooklyn accent .
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    I remember seeing the notices on their website but I never saw anything happen after that.
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    I have sometimes questioned myself on why they never did a new archie cartoon, I mean with all the teen stuff happening you think it would have happened by now. I dont remember much of watching Weird Mysteries I only saw one episode and pretty much the whole thing was a mixed bag. They got some of the voice acting right though, as long as there is an animation crew that knows Archie and his gang well enough I'd pay for an archie series.

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    Only if they don't make everyone get along all the time. Betty and Veronica are friends...but also rivals! Likewise Reggie schemes on Archie far more than he works with him.

    Too many of today's Archie comics (and past cartoons) paint the gang as one big happy family...instead of the hormonal, scheming teens they should be!

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    Right, Betty and Veronica are the quintessential frenemies. There needs to be some drama. And it shouldn't be like the some of the more current comics, either, where Betty and Archie are perfect saints and all the scheming falls on Reggie and Veronica. In the older comics Betty and Archie could do some scheming on their own.
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