Any Toon Show That DOSEN'T Go Downhill after a "Spinoff?"

[Neo Ultra Mike]

Sometimes when a show becomes pouplar enough, the execs will ask the creative team of the show to make another program for them. Sometimes they'll wait for the first show to be finished first but other times they won't, thinking they'll be getting high ratings from both shows of the staff. In some cartoons the same staff does a lot with both shows and obviously focuses more on the new show rather then the old show, allowing mistakes, inconstiencey, and generally bad writing to seep in.

It's what happened to Fairly Oddparents after Danny Phantom came.
It's what happened to The Simpsons when Futurama was in production (and it still never recovered)
And it's what happen to Family Guy after the show return alonged with American Dad.

And it's happened with a bunch of other shows. However as there been any toon to actually stay status quo or even benefit from having two team made shows on at the same time? I can't really think of any but I'm sure some of you out there may be able to.

[FidoMcCokefiend]

Well, not one of those shows listed is a spinoff. They're just new shows from the same creator. a spinoff is when a character from a show gets his or her own show. Like the Jeffersons getting a show after being on All in the Family.

[Michael24]

I suppose there are, but really, I'd say it's all just a matter of opinion. I've found FAMILY GUY to still be just as funny after its return as it was when it was first on.

I usually find it the other way around, the spin off being worse than the original. I still haven't been able to really get into AMERICAN DAD, though I don't consider it a "spin off" of FG.

[Rayluxuryacht]

I still haven't been able to really get into AMERICAN DAD, though I don't consider it a "spin off" of FG.

Technically speaking, American Dad is not a spinoff of Family Guy. A spinoff is when characters from an existing series are incorporated into a separate series. Since American Dad was developed around new, original characters created specifically for that series, it is not a spinoff. (To provide a counterexample, if they were to suddenly give Joe Swanson or Cleveland Brown their own series, that WOULD be a spinoff.) That's just a semantic thing, though. The point being made was whether or not a show starts going downhill whenever its creators launch a new series concurrently with it.

[RonDrakenfan17]

I don't know, like some mentioned there is Family Guy but still. Random: I'd sure like a Double D spin off from Ed, Edd n Eddy but that's me

[Mandi-chan]

Yeah, none of the shows you listed are spin-offs.

As for what's better:

I love Futurama and always thought it was a better series than the Simpsons (that's just my opinion).

I never liked The Fairly Odd Parents but I do like watching Danny Phantom once in a while.

I enjoy Family Guy, but have no interest whatsoever in watching American Dad 'cause I think it looks dull.

[Redi]

In caveman terms: Creator of show creates new show...first show suffers.

[Michael24]

Technically speaking, American Dad is not a spinoff of Family Guy. A spinoff is when characters from an existing series are incorporated into a separate series. Since American Dad was developed around new, original characters created specifically for that series, it is not a spinoff. (To provide a counterexample, if they were to suddenly give Joe Swanson or Cleveland Brown their own series, that WOULD be a spinoff.) That's just a semantic thing, though. The point being made was whether or not a show starts going downhill whenever its creators launch a new series concurrently with it.

Hence why I say "though I don't consider AMERICAN DAD a spin-off of FAMILY GUY."

[Bubblegum Girl]

It's what happened to Fairly Oddparents after Danny Phantom came.
It's what happened to The Simpsons when Futurama was in production (and it still never recovered)
And it's what happen to Family Guy after the show return alonged with American Dad.

Um...Danny Phantom is NOT a spin-off of FOP

Also Futurama is NOT a spin-off of The Simpsons

And American Dad is NOT a spin-off of Family Guy

They just shared the same creator and have sorta the same style. That doesn't mean that they're spin-offs...

[Leviathan]

There are only a few Toon shows that I can think of with true spinoffs: Huckleberry Hound/Yogi Bear, Rocky and Bullwinkle/The Dudley Do-Right Show, DuckTales/Darkwing Duck, Beavis and Butt-Head/Daria, and Animaniacs/Pinky and the Brain

Rocky and Bullwinkle, Beavis and Butt-Head and Ducktales didn't go downhill because they were already out of production when The Dudley Do-Right Show, Daria and Darkwing Duck came on. Animaniacs and Huckleberry Hound, however, were still in productions wehn the Spinoffs came, so they kinda did go downhill

[dth1971]

What about:
Arthur/Postcards from Buster
OR
The Archie Show/Sabrina the Teenage Witch

[Mr.Penguin]

Maybe this should be renamed something like "shows that didn't go downwill after the creator moved on." That makes it more open and matches the shows the thread starter listed ('cause as everyone already said: those ain't spinoffs)

[Aldrius]

Has there ever been a TRUE cartoon spin-off. Like when there's a cartoon character on one show, who interacts with the main characters on that show... who then gets their own show? =S

(As opposed to Pinky and the Brain which was always seperate from Animaniacs.)

[Craig Crumpton]

Has there ever been a TRUE cartoon spin-off. Like when there's a cartoon character on one show, who interacts with the main characters on that show... who then gets their own show? =S

(As opposed to Pinky and the Brain which was always seperate from Animaniacs.)

No, P&TB is a perfect answer to your question. P&TB were merely a segment on the Animaniacs show (although often making cameos during A! segments, and vice-versa) until it spun-off.

[MonkeyFunk]

Would Taz-Mania count? How about movie spinoffs like Timon and Pumbaa?

[creativerealms]

The simpsons was starting to lose it even before Futurama though.

[Leviathan]

Has there ever been a TRUE cartoon spin-off. Like when there's a cartoon character on one show, who interacts with the main characters on that show... who then gets their own show? =S

There's Still Daria. She interacted with Beavis and Butt-head, and eventually got her own show.

[RAINMAN]

There's Still Daria. She interacted with Beavis and Butt-head, and eventually got her own show.

I never understood how or why daria got her own show. Was she that populare?

[MonkeyFunk]

Ooh! Got another one!

Count Duckula - he was originally a bad guy in Danger Mouse.

[J'onn J'onzz]

Has there ever been a TRUE cartoon spin-off. Like when there's a cartoon character on one show, who interacts with the main characters on that show... who then gets their own show? =S

(As opposed to Pinky and the Brain which was always seperate from Animaniacs.)

Yes. The Brak Show was a spin-off from Space Ghost: Coast to Coast, and Harvey Birdman showed up in a few episodes before getting his own series. So those two are spin-offs, and IMO Space Ghost never really went downhill... So there's an answer to the topic's question. Yes, there are some shows that don't go downhill after a spin-off.