DBZ Super Saturdays bump Scooby

**Dante Bunny** · 10-08-2001, 04:06 PM

here's the latest news from Vince

BEGINNING SATURDAY, OCTOBER 20
• SATURDAY AFTERNOONS
12:00 PM - Pup Named Scooby Doo (replaces Flintstones)
12:30 PM - New Scooby Doo Mysteries (replaces Jetsons)
1:00 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces Scooby Where Are You)
1:30 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces Scooby & Scrappy)
2:00 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces New Scooby Mysteries)
2:30 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces Pup Named Scooby)

For all of the Scooby fans, there're still some Scooby shows like a Pup Named Scooby Doo and New Scooby Mysteries.

**The Dork Knight** · 10-08-2001, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by G.I. D'oh!
For all of the Scooby fans, there're still some Scooby shows like a Pup Named Scooby Doo and New Scooby Mysteries.

I don't even think there are any Scooby fans here anyway.....

**BourgeoisBuffoon** · 10-08-2001, 08:02 PM

SAID BY GOTLUCKY64: I don't even think there are any Scooby fans here anyway.....

You got THAT right!

Personally, I'd like to see DBZ, but I can't. In any event, even if I can't see it, I'd like to comend CN for showing intelligence and not airing Scooby so much. Let's hope they make a Dexter marathon next!

**Joe Tully** · 10-08-2001, 09:22 PM

I'm not a big DBZ fan, but anything that decreases the amount of Scooby in the universe is a good thing.

**CookieS** · 10-08-2001, 11:05 PM

That's odd that they would put on DBZ in the middle of the day like that. Will it be part of Toonami?

**PeppeRaskell1** · 10-09-2001, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by G.I. D'oh!
here's the latest news from Vince

BEGINNING SATURDAY, OCTOBER 20
• SATURDAY AFTERNOONS
12:00 PM - Pup Named Scooby Doo (replaces Flintstones)
12:30 PM - New Scooby Doo Mysteries (replaces Jetsons)
1:00 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces Scooby Where Are You)
1:30 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces Scooby & Scrappy)
2:00 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces New Scooby Mysteries)
2:30 PM - Dragonball Z (replaces Pup Named Scooby)

For all of the Scooby fans, there're still some Scooby shows like a Pup Named Scooby Doo and New Scooby Mysteries.

It's about time! I was wondering how many more times I'd have to look at the TV Guide grid and see "Scooby, Scooby, Scooby" on Saturdays and not break into a sing-song voice while reading it.

BTW, I had an inkling CN would do something with
DBZ when I read it made the Top 20 Cable shows
almost as many times as "SpongeBob?" (Nick wants to cancel this show as many times it's made the
Top 20 Cable? They've been watching too much "Rugrats"!)

**Dante Bunny** · 10-09-2001, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by PeppeRaskell1

Nick wants to cancel this show as many times it's made the
Top 20 Cable? They've been watching too much "Rugrats"!)

Man, Rugrats and Scooby Doo are so played out.

I want to say rock on to Spongebob, Dexter, Powerpuff Girls, Batman Beyond, Histeria (that show deserves to be back on the air!), and DBZ.

**Maxie Zeus** · 10-09-2001, 02:44 PM

Well, I'm a Scooby fan, but even I think it's played WAY too much. Thank goodness they're cutting back.

**ChuckRoast** · 10-11-2001, 04:18 PM

I think Cartoon Network had finally listened to the fans and decided to cuyt back Scooby Doo. I hope they don't overplay DBZ, though...

Garrett · 10-11-2001, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Gotlucky64

I don't even think there are any Scooby fans here anyway.....

*coughs* Excuse me?

Garrett

**RockItShipper** · 10-11-2001, 06:46 PM

Of course, there may well be a Scooby marathon when the movie comes out. Tho' Josie and the Pussycats just got a superchunk one afternoon on CN this past spring.

**LD1984** · 10-12-2001, 02:14 AM

I can live without Scooby Doo, The new adventures of Scooby doo, Scooby and Scrappy, The New New adventures of Scooby doo, Scooby movies, A pup named Scooby doo and all that poo. They made too much Scooby.

Garrett · 10-12-2001, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by LD1984
I can live without Scooby Doo, The new adventures of Scooby doo, Scooby and Scrappy, The New New adventures of Scooby doo, Scooby movies, A pup named Scooby doo and all that poo. They made too much Scooby.

That's the H-B way: milk something until it starts to bleed, and then keep milking it until it's dead. You forgot to mention all the 70s shows (including Josie and Jabberjaw) that ripped off the Scooby-Doo "formula"-those are truly awful. *sighs* And people call Filmation cheap......

Garrett

**Dub** · 10-12-2001, 05:22 AM

At least Scooby was fun and doesnt take itself seriously anymore....to a point anyway.....I certainly wont miss it or anything remotely involving Scrappy Doo

But Filmation....Filmation scares me... ^____^

I do have fond memories of he-Man though....but the other stuff? BRRRRRRRRR ^________^

**Nftnat** · 10-12-2001, 11:37 AM

For those who don't know, would you believe Ruegger & Dini used to write for Phlegmation? What can I say, one night last year I was bored, so I started looking, & a few minutes later I was looking @ some Masters of the Universe credits with some very familiar names.

Garrett · 10-13-2001, 05:25 AM

Originally posted by Nftnat
For those who don't know, would you believe Ruegger & Dini used to write for Phlegmation?

FILMATION had a history of talent-real talent. Voice actors such as Frank Welker (Heckle & Jeckle, Droopy), Alan Oppenheimer (Skeletor, Man-At-Arms), Linda Gary (Teela, the Sorceress, Glimmer), Robert Ridgely (Tarzan), George DiCenzo (Hordak), Erika Scheimer (Frosta, Queen Angella), and Lou Scheimer (Dumb Donald, Trap Jaw, Tri-Klops, and Orko) were joined in the credits over the years by Paul Dini, Bob Forward, Larry DiTillio, Micael Reaves, Buzz Dixon, Gwen Wetzler, Hal Sutherland, J. Michael Stracynski, and Tom Tataronwicz. I'd say that one could (and did) make a lot of great hours of animation with people like that working behind the scenes.

Besides, if Filmation is such a poor studio, then why is it that many of the artists from The New Adventures of Superman (the first Filmation cartoon of the 1960s) listed in the credits of the (quite poorly animated, IMO) New Scooby-Doo Mysteries in 1973 (produced by the "superior" Hanna-Barbera studio), and retained through at least the early Scrappy era?

Garrett

**The Mad Hatter** · 10-13-2001, 10:56 PM

Besides, if Filmation is such a poor studio, then why is it that many of the artists from The New Adventures of Superman (the first Filmation cartoon of the 1960s) listed in the credits of the (quite poorly animated, IMO) New Scooby-Doo Mysteries in 1973 (produced by the "superior" Hanna-Barbera studio), and retained through at least the early Scrappy era?

(reading the sentence)

(reading the sentence again)

Um, I think you're missing a key verb there. Are you saying that the talent from the Superman show went to Scooby-Doo? If so, that doesn't help your argument... that indicates a mass exocdus from Filmation.

I'll have to agree that most Scooby series were quite crap, but I'd have to say that the real lack of quality award goes to filmation. Not only was the animation bad, but so were the scripts and characters, for the most part. At least Scooby was an interesting character...

**Singin' Stray Cat** · 10-14-2001, 12:16 AM

I'm a teensy bit worried about DBZ replacing Scooby though - I'm not a huge fan of either show, but does this mean that now DBZ will be overplayed?

**Dub** · 10-14-2001, 09:24 AM

I'm a teensy bit worried about DBZ replacing Scooby though - I'm not a huge fan of either show, but does this mean that now DBZ will be overplayed?

What do you think?

I'm a fan of DBZ, but even most fans of it and Toonami do talk about the "overplayedness" of it at times. Its never reached the phenonomenon of Scooby Doo bad though and probably never will. I wont mind so much if they start at the beginning (The Raditz saga) and MAYBE the current Saiyaman saga arc. But if they start at the Frieza or Cell Saga arcs again I can guarantee you people will flip. :P They havent aired the Raditz saga on CN since late 1999 - but back then they overplayed that part two so I guess its a darned if you do, darned if you dont deal. Hopefully though, this will lead to maybe more variety in action oriented shows in that two hour block in the long run...

As for Filmation - it is true that they did have talent. But the big difference between HB and Filmation is that HB's bad was at least somewhat watchable. The animation may not have been enough to send spasms of joy across the planet and some plots were thinner than chicken broth - but the majority of thier charcters were likeable and endearing no matter how milked or cloned they may be. My mother acknowledges that Josie And The Pussycats was a Scooby clone - but she says she used to watch it religiously when she was smaller. Older people remember that stuff and some of the characters.

Even the widely abhorred Scrappy Doo does have a very very small fanbase...

You dont hear ANY of that with the Groovy Goolies. :P He-Man, She-Ra, Bravestarr, Fat Albert and a few others have really stood the test of time character wise - but when Filmation did bad: they were RENOWNED for doing REALLLY REAAALLLY BAD

They weren't the Great Animation Evil, but a large majority of thier stuff really stank from what little I remember. Brady Kids, Archie, etc etc **shrungs**

Question - didnt Filmation used to do updated versions of Mighty Mouse/Heckle and Jeckle as well?

**LightAngel** · 10-14-2001, 02:17 PM

Not more DBZ!!! I'm sick of Scooby Doo, but putting on more DBZ isn't the answer. That's all Toonami ever seems to play anymore. Maybe they should just pick a different show that no one has seen in awhile.