Originally posted by Clayface
Fair enough. I do agree that some of the characters fall into that typical cliche, but I'm so used to that sort of thing in anime that it doesn't bother much anymore.
Define what you mean by her "weak" characteristics.
True--it is quite typical in anime. You still see a bit of it in the original Gundam
, which I like better, but has its weaker characterizations. Though I think the smaller main cast in the upcoming original Gundam made the interactions work better. And...as much as people like Zechs...I see only a bunch of writers trying to mine Char Aznable, the original Zechs. I also didn't buy the rivalry between Zechs and Heero. "Rivalry" is a running theme in Gundam, but in the original Gundam, the hatred kept building and building...they two opposing characters starting out competitive, then deadly personal as each takes more from the other. Which brings me to the plot--I'll address this in the plot section.
Relena seemed, well, a bit passive at times, and she certainly spent a lot of time worrying about cosmetic things. I couldn't believe that a person like this could become so...political.
Hey, speak for yourself! I find deluded terrorists pretty dang entertaining!
Okay, I'll actually agree it has some merit...
Eh. Again, something that I'm so used to in anime that it doesn't bother me. I'd rather have the monologues than the whiney "(fill in generic monster name here) Attack!" crap we get so much of.
Monologues are great
and all...but I'd rather they focus on the interactions rather than the themes. The themes tended to overtake the characters much of the time.
Why isn't that a good enough description? The fact that it can't be summed up easily is exactly what I like about it. Its a look at the lives of the characters and the repurcussions of their actions. Can you sum up the whole plot of your life easily? "I've gone to school to work toward my dream job?" Sounds mundane, but I bet there's been plenty of exciting and interesting parts of your life.
My life has some character interaction to explain the plot twists. It's not all opaque speeches and political themes.
Also, what I really didn't like was that the show didn't have many deaths. A war is a war and people die in a war. Except for one or two characters, ALL of them survived. Relena, in reality, probably would have died. A lot of civilians and faceless characters died, but from this show, you would've thought they were test dummies, because of the lack of focus on them, even after they died.
I agree and disagree. Yes, its hard to define their relationship, but the aspects you've pointed out, to me, are more realistic than any other relationship I've seen in anime. I've seen exactly that sort of thing happen to friends of mine, and i've been through it myself - that weird "almost chemistry" where things never really develop, but the connection still stays.
I've seen this too much in anime (Princess Mononoke
, Kiki's Delivery Service, Nausicaa, Evangelion) so a little bit of commitment is what I like to see now. "Instant" romance may be unrealistic, but my cynical heart needs some romanticism now and again. We look for different things.
I don't mind romance being a central theme - its just that so many times it falls into the cliches, which gets tired real quick. The Relena/Heero relatioship had a great awkwardness and uniqueness that you normally don't see, which is what i liked about it.