Toonami Fantasy Schedules - 2006 through 3/22/07

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I throw around the idea of a Toonami channel quite often but rather than just put up a schedule I'm putting up a list of the shows possible for a Toonami channel by the end of this year (or earlier) all the shows mentioned are presumed licensed or owned by some company or already are in CN's hands. And yes I included YGO.... and I don't like all of these shows but I listed them anyway. For one, Ben 10 should stay away from Toonami but it's an action show so it ought to be listed. Adult Swim content I list is nearly all shonens which would air late nights not in the daytime the exception being The Big O which aired on Toonami before.

Main programing: (shows guarenteed to air)

The Batman
Bobobo-Bo Bo-Bobo
Dragonball Z
IGPX
Justice League Unlimited
Megas XLR
Naruto
One Piece
Samurai Jack
Teen Titans
Zatch Bell

These are the shows that will undoubtably air and air often. Though Jack and Megas might be pushing it still, I would at least hope they'd give them a good shot on an all action network by CN.

Secondary programing: (shows that will most likely air)

Duel Masters
Dragonball (might get shafted for its age)
Dragonball GT
Gundam SEED
Justice League
Rave Master
Transformers: Cybertron
Yu Yu Hakusho

All of these have aired on Toonami at one time, are still in CN's vault and might be considered important enough to air on the regular schedule. Though several would likely get bad slots.

Possible programing CN has: (unlikely but could air)

Astroboy 2K3
Batman Beyond
Batman: TAS
Battle B Daman
Ben 10
The Big O
DICE
Dragon Hunters
Gigantor
GI-Joe
Fullmetal Alchemist
.hack//Legend of the Twilight Bracelet
He-Man and the Masters of the Universe
Inuyasha
Pirates of Dark Water
Pokemon
The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest
s-CRY-ed
Static Shock
Superfriends
Superman: TAS
SWAT Kats
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Thundercats
Transformers: Armada
Transformers: Energon
Wulin Warriors
Yu-Gi-Oh!: Duel Monsters
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX

All of these (to my knowledge) are shows CN has that could potentially air on an all action animation channel by CN. I hate some of these shows but I'd get flamed if I didn't list them... so whatever.

Possible programing CN had: (very unlikely to air)

Android Kikaider
Case Closed
Cyborg 009
G Gundam
Gundam 08th MS Team
Gundam 0080
Gundam 0083
Gundam Wing
.hack//SIGN
Knights of the Zodiac
Mobile Suit Gundam
Outlaw Star
Reboot
Ronin Warriors
Rurouni Kenshin
SD Gundam Force
Tenchi in Tokyo
Tenchi Muyo
Tenchi Universe
Zoids Fuzors
Zoids CC / GF
Zoids ZERO

All have aired on CN and could potentially be purchased again but probably wouldn't be.

Possible programing CN doesn't have: (very unlikely to air,

yet)

Black Cat
Dragon Drive
Flame of Recca
Gundam SEED Destiny
Hikaru No Go
MAR
Mega Man NT Warrior
Mega Man NT Warrior: Axecess
The Prince of Tennis
Shaman King
Spider-Man: The New Animated Chronicles
Transformers: Beast Wars
Tsubasa Chronicles
Ultimate Muscle
Viewtiful Joe
Zeta Gundam
Zoids Genesis

All are available for CN to buy this year (have been licensed anyway) and would fit with the other programing listed above.

There's also shows CN is making in the future but since I don't know what those are besides Legion of Super Heroes and the new Thundercats I figured there was no point in listing them. But there are co-productions with anime companies, some DC shows rumored and the Jim Henson company is working on a Dark Crystal series specifically for Toonami.

There is indeed a lot of potential here but it would need good management to not suck. But since it would definently at least air the reruns of the "important" shows on Toonami right now that's Zatch Bell, Naruto and Bo-Bobo on weekdays and who can argue that wouldn't be fun even if the rest of the schedule is crap and uh... 4kids One Piece.

[Assembler]

I like the idea, but one question. CN lost then rights to kenshin?

[Space Cadet]

I like the idea, but one question. CN lost then rights to kenshin?

Yeah, they lost them last year. They never aired the episodes beyond the Kyoto Arc.

[JMorgan]

This is an interesting post, I've been thinking about this idea for a very long time. Especially since Toonami's been doing nothing but gaining in popularity even since it's moved to Saturday and now it's gone from virtually owning Cartoon Network (several hours in the afternoon, Midnight Run, Saturday Morning Rising Sun, late-night Saturday Rising Sun, I think they also had a Saturday afternoon block for awhile (which I REALLY wish they still had), etc etc) to being squeezed into just a pre-AS prep show for a couple hours on Saturday night.. though it hasn't lost in popularity or marketability at all to my knowledge except for the end of the Dragonball trilogy... an entire channel dedicated to it as it completley phases out of CN would be pretty rockin'. But how likely is that? It's popular, it's a moneymaker, but could anything that GOOD ever actually come from a channel like CN which seems to be riddled with bad choices lately?

[William C. Maune]

The major problem with creating a Toonami Channel is getting cable and satellite companies to carry it. There is a limited amount of space available to carry new networks. Cartoon Network has been trying to get more companies to carry Boomerang for years without a lot of luck.

[Demonic Raven]

We should wait for the Funimation Channel to start up. Why? Well, if that channel bombs, chances are a Toonami channel won't have much of a chance.

The other possibility is that the Funimation Channel becomes a hit, and paves the way for a Toonami Channel, but who knows...

[DemonBoy]

I would like to see Jackie Chan Adventures, and X-Men: Evolution back on. Though for the list I would put JCA under #3 (Unlikely, but could air.) and X-Men under #4, since I think they don't have the license for both shows, but X-Men is Marvel while most shows on CN are DC. I remember that CN show 4 episodes for Shaman King and MegaMan NT Warrior, wonder what the deal with that was? As for the FUNi channel, I think most shows that FUNi handles will be on that network when CN license run outs.

[Wanted]

Why should this ever happen?

First of all, who'd maintain it and give it that special sauce to make it flourish? Williams Street sure doesn't seem to care much for Toonami anymore (I don't care what anyone says, I'm not arguing this point), and Turner Studios has proven numerous times (the most recent with the NASA-themed Houston All-Star game on TNT) that they can do Toonami better than any outside studio (that includes Brand New School).

Since a certain time, less and less has been put into Toonami, and the powers that be wouldn't be inclined to put any more elbow grease into the property than they have in the past while if a channel were to fall out of the sky. Sure, they'd have a nice budget to work with, but it wouldn't do them any good without their masters behind the scenes (referring to Turner Studios). The best eras of Toonami were conceived there, in my homely opinion, and none of the newer animation holds a candle to, for example, the Intruder.

Toonami would do better with a few more hours a week, but that's all I'll stand for. Right now, it's just a shell for shows... and you know how I feel about shows and where they air. Just in case you don't, I don't care where a show airs anymore as long as I can see it.

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I would like to see Jackie Chan Adventures, and X-Men: Evolution back on. Though for the list I would put JCA under #3 (Unlikely, but could air.) and X-Men under #4, since I think they don't have the license for both shows, but X-Men is Marvel while most shows on CN are DC. I remember that CN show 4 episodes for Shaman King and MegaMan NT Warrior, wonder what the deal with that was? As for the FUNi channel, I think most shows that FUNi handles will be on that network when CN license run outs.

JCA is starting on Jetix in Fall so that's out.

X-Men EVO should also be on Jetix but if CN can get it again (ALL the episodes) then it'd be great to see again.

[Strider-Man]

Did Kenshin ever aired in 2005 February to March era??Add Case Closed to that Toonami Channel list of yours and Lupin it will be a good idea.Wait,if Funimation Channel doesnt have enough space on satellite,why not ask the provider to replace a channel with that channel in the lineup.

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Both Kenshin and Case Closed are listed under the previously aired on CN series which they don't have now.

Lupin isn't Toonami material. It was a family show in Japan but by our standards it's clearly meant for the adult crowd with adult themes, adult characters and adult situations. It's a good adult comedy so it should remain as part of Adult Swim's repetoir if at all possible.

[Sage Shinigami]

Both Kenshin and Case Closed are listed under the previously aired on CN series which they don't have now.

Lupin isn't Toonami material. It was a family show in Japan but by our standards it's clearly meant for the adult crowd with adult themes, adult characters and adult situations. It's a good adult comedy so it should remain as part of Adult Swim's repetoir if at all possible.

I don't think so. I'd rather a kid (even my own, if I had one) watch AS's Lupin before they watched uncut shonen like Bleach, RK, or YYH. Lupin could easily fit late-nights on a Toonami network.

That said, while a network for Toonami might be a good idea...we all know it has no chance of happening, and if it did, would be much like Boomerang--taking good cartoons off of a network that reaches everybody so that they can air on a channel that reaches almost no one.

[NickMB]

A Toonami network would not work. It'd end up just like Boomerang, as the previous poster said.

A network that combines Toonami, Boomerang, and adult swim, however, could work. You'd have Boomerang from 5am - 1 pm, Toonami from 1pm - 9pm, and adult swim from 9pm - 5am.

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I don't think so. I'd rather a kid (even my own, if I had one) watch AS's Lupin before they watched uncut shonen like Bleach, RK, or YYH. Lupin could easily fit late-nights on a Toonami network.

Well that's why none of those shonen are uncut.

[Sage Shinigami]

Well that's why none of those shonen are uncut.

I'm not in favor of content edits. That said, I'd still much rather put my kid (if I, indeed, had one) in front of Lupin rather than those shonen shows, be they edited or not. What is wrong with America that a dirty joke is somehow less acceptable than people getting diced the hell up?


And if you had a station that did Boomerang, Toonami, and Adult Swim, why would you bother having CN? It would die. Regardless of the Cartoon Cartoons' ratings, no way it stands up to the power of a network like THAT.

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There's a lot of things wrong with America. That's just how it goes. But for the record. CN is sooner to get risky with fanservice than with violence or language. Dirty jokes aren't what make Lupin a good adult comedy. The adult situations do.

Look at CN right now. How much of it is Toonami or classics? Adult Swim isn't counted as part of CN's ratings either. CN relys on the ratings of a choice sum of original series with the exception of a very small amount of acquired content. Look at the daytime schedule. CN with just CN originals (only new ones and long standing holders like the Eds) and Tickle U would do about as well as the current CN. Which wouldn't be good I might add but if they consider it acceptable now, I don't see why it wouldn't be later.

Moving Adult Swim and Toonami of CN entirely would be a determent to both franchises though. CN is on most cable and satalite providers. Boomerang obviously isn't. Even if this channel got more providers than Boomerang currently does it wouldn't be as good as the exposure on CN.

Furthermore a channel airing Adult Swim and Toonami wouldn't be for the same demographic as CN. CN would still get the 2-11 ratings it currently enjoys. But in total ratings they obviously loose to the branch channel with AS and Toonami. However, since they focus on 2-11 anyway those extra viewers wouldn't play into the equation enough for CN to care.

And I don't believe moving Toonami from CN would be neccessary in order to have a Toonami channel. Toonami could still exist as a premiere block and that premiere block could simulcast on CN and the branch action network on Saturday nights or perhaps CN could get the content a week ahead or something... Reguardless they don't need to pull the plug on Saturday premiere Toonami if they make a Toonami channel. CN wont be ablidged to give Toonami shows much space for reruns though and that's why a Toonami channel would be mighty nice. Not too mention it would give Megas XLR and Samurai Jack a shot at airing again where as the current CN wont.

But like I already said. It needs good management backing it or it will fall apart just like CN already has.

[Sage Shinigami]

There's a lot of things wrong with America. That's just how it goes. But for the record. CN is sooner to get risky with fanservice than with violence or language. Dirty jokes aren't what make Lupin a good adult comedy. The adult situations do.

Maybe we aren't watching the same show. I don't consider Lupin to have that many adult situations. Suggestive language occasionally, yes. But the situations don't strike me as all that serious.

Furthermore a channel airing Adult Swim and Toonami wouldn't be for the same demographic as CN. CN would still get the 2-11 ratings it currently enjoys. But in total ratings they obviously loose to the branch channel with AS and Toonami. However, since they focus on 2-11 anyway those extra viewers wouldn't play into the equation enough for CN to care.

I know I'm not the only person in the world who spends most of his time watching CN because bottom line--there's nothing better on TV. If something like an AS/Toonami channel aired, a LOT of people would suddenly drop CN. Of course, this is just wishful thinking on my part, and is actually very unlikely given the ratings of a CCF rerun apparently does better than some of the strongest shows Toonami has.

And I don't believe moving Toonami from CN would be neccessary in order to have a Toonami channel. Toonami could still exist as a premiere block and that premiere block could simulcast on CN and the branch action network on Saturday nights or perhaps CN could get the content a week ahead or something... Reguardless they don't need to pull the plug on Saturday premiere Toonami if they make a Toonami channel. CN wont be ablidged to give Toonami shows much space for reruns though and that's why a Toonami channel would be mighty nice. Not too mention it would give Megas XLR and Samurai Jack a shot at airing again where as the current CN wont.

All I have to say to this is: Do you see the Boomerang block anywhere on CN anymore? After a channel develops, they usually don't leave the block on the channel it originated at.

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How about that episode when Lupin goes to that place filled with many beautiful woman and it gets a little sausey?

How about Lupin lunging at Fujiko quite a few times in a very wild animal going after his prey way? Which is typically considered on the sexual side?

There isn't that much compared to many shows and that's why it was a family show in Japan BUT there is enough by our countries standards. Lupin is plenty old enough to show on Boomerang but it never will for the same reason it wont air on any youth targeted channel outside of an adult targeted format.

CN will never give up Toonami (so says Bob Higgins). Unlike Boomerang's block back in the day it actually still gets ratings... and good ones. Even if they toss the rest they'll keep Naruto, One Piece and probably Zatch Bell because while some CC's beat them they still do better than several shows and hold their own with the top rated on CN. Naruto especially. I kid you not... horrific as it sounds CN could just be airing Code LYOKO, Naruto, One Piece and Ben 10 for action shows and the rest being comedies. I don't want it to come to that of course but it's possible. Look at Nick, they only have a handful of action oriented programs and its doing better than CN... and reairs the same shows more than CN... This is one of the reasons why Toonami is only on Saturday night now. But since it's also the action premiere block it would have to stay or at least there would have to be a another form of action premiere block that still shows Naruto and such.

[Sage Shinigami]

How about that episode when Lupin goes to that place filled with many beautiful woman and it gets a little sausey?

I don't know....I'd be more concerned with thinking about the fact that they have a way to make people instantly old. It really wasn't all that saucy.

How about Lupin lunging at Fujiko quite a few times in a very wild animal going after his prey way? Which is typically considered on the sexual side?

And every time he does, he is denied. Comically.

There isn't that much compared to many shows and that's why it was a family show in Japan BUT there is enough by our countries standards. Lupin is plenty old enough to show on Boomerang but it never will for the same reason it wont air on any youth targeted channel outside of an adult targeted format.

Yes I know, and I get it, but why not edit? An edit or two here and there and it's really no worse than your average episode of Naruto. Actually a lot better, all considered.

CN will never give up Toonami (so says Bob Higgins). Unlike Boomerang's block back in the day it actually still gets ratings... and good ones. Even if they toss the rest they'll keep Naruto, One Piece and probably Zatch Bell because while some CC's beat them they still do better than several shows and hold their own with the top rated on CN. Naruto especially. I kid you not... horrific as it sounds CN could just be airing Code LYOKO, Naruto, One Piece and Ben 10 for action shows and the rest being comedies. I don't want it to come to that of course but it's possible. Look at Nick, they only have a handful of action oriented programs and its doing better than CN... and reairs the same shows more than CN... This is one of the reasons why Toonami is only on Saturday night now. But since it's also the action premiere block it would have to stay or at least there would have to be a another form of action premiere block that still shows Naruto and such.

Yes, I seriously doubt Toonami will ever leave CN. That said, if Toonami did get its own channel, presuming they got it as widespread as CN is, I could honestly care less what CN gets. They've treated Toonami and its shows pretty badly lately, so it could be stuck with endless reruns of Ben 10 and One Piece for all I care. And yes, they do have another action premiere block. Its called Miguzi.

[RomanMack]

Actually.... Miguzi is not really an action premeire block since it ussually just shows action reruns.