Yu-Gi-Oh! Vrains Discussion

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  1. Light Lucario

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    He still came to save the day though. He didn't join the duel to help Onizuka, but his reverse psychology motivation talk was able to help Onizuka keep on dueling. Without that, Onizuka may not have been able to get back up. Onizuka won the duel on his own, but it was still presented as though their lord and savior Yusaku came down from the heavens to help Onizuka win. It still leaves me with mixed feelings, but not joining in the duel itself isn't really enough for me.

    I'm so ready for that to happen too. While it makes sense that Yusaku would want to keep his identity a secret and go after the Knights of Hanoi primarily on his own, it really does factor into why I think he's so boring. He doesn't have a lot of characters to bounce off with and working with the other characters can help his goal too. Not to mention I'm still waiting for the magic of friendship to begin actually healing Yusaku.

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    Not really. Their hair styles don't look the same and other than having an eye patch in place of a D-Gazer, their designs don't really seem that similar. If she was using a train or machine deck, then that might be something.

    Anyway, I thought that this episode was okay. As much as I thought Dr. Genome was annoying. his combo was pretty impressive, especially when he cut Onizuka's life points and the attack points of his monster in half. Granted, it made it all the more obvious that Onizuka would make a come back victory, as per tradition in this franchise when one of the main characters is down to one hundred life points, but I'd still give him credit for a good strategy.

    As I mentioned before, I have mixed feelings on Yusaku helping out. On one had, the reverse psychology was a bit unexpected. I knew he wouldn't join the duel himself, if only because it was clearly reaching its conclusion and I didn't think that they'd want to drag it out for that much longer in order to showcase Yusaku's monsters, but I was expecting something more akin to his speech to Dr. Genome when he talked to Onizuka. While he didn't join the duel, he still ultimately saved the day by motivating Onizuka. It does show that he cares about other people and he just hides it, but it still kind of bothered me that Yusaku still had to save the day even when he wasn't the one dueling. This probably wouldn't have bothered me that much if the entire show up to this point hadn't been worshiping Yusaku as the best thing since slice bread. They keep praising him as a hero, including even when he first showed up in this episode, and I just find it to be so forced to keep praising him. It still feels like the writers are desperately trying to make the audience like Yusaku by constantly reminding them that he's the hero who saved Link Vrains. If they had toned down the hero worship, or preferably removed it completely, I'd probably be more okay with Yusaku showing up to indirectly save the day. It would be even better if this was to help further establish their friendship, but I don't think it was going to do that either.

    I liked Onizuka's come-back though. Getting rid of the masks was a nice touch that helped with his performance, although I still wish that they addressed that Onizuka was forcing himself into a role before. The whole heel turn worked in regards to wrestling, at least based on what little i know about it, but it felt kind of forced compared to when he was dueling Yusaku before. I thought that Yusaku would point that out too, but he was just talking about how duelist can always evolve further. Onizuka's strategy was pretty good though. He was able to get rid of the effects of Dr. Genome's monsters and win the duel. He got the virus recovering program too, although his one-shot friend obviously won't show up again because his purpose to create personal stakes is done. Onizuka claiming to be the world's best entertainer was a bit much. Maybe I would like his performances if I knew more about wrestling, but his main selling point for me is that he reminds me of Arc V and man I miss that series so much.

    I was hoping that Onizuka would mention to Yusaku that he did know his identity afterwards, but he didn't. I guess that was a lie to get Dr. Genome to duel him, unless they're going to bring that up later. While Onizuka may not know who Yusaku is, at least he's actively fighting against the Knights of Hanoi, so he can be more involved in the conflicts.

    I was confused when the Knights of Hanoi grunts were still turning other duelists into Another, but Yusaku mentioning that they keep updating the virus makes sense. I guess that would explain why they couldn't use the same program that healed Aoi to heal all of the other victims earlier either. I don't know if they could look at the updated virus to get a recover program that way, but they just wanted to find a way to still make becoming Another full of tension. I liked the scene with Aoi and Akira. Akira seemed happy to be able to spend more time with Aoi and Aoi felt the same, despite being distracted for a moment. While I do have my fair share of problems with this series, the moments being these two have been more genuinely touching than I expected, so that is nice.

    I still really hate how they make the fate of Link Vrains so important when I still don't know why Link Vrains is a big deal. It's where people duel, but that's not enough for me to care, especially when I still don't understand how it's apparently the only way people duel in this universe. I could believe that it's the most popular way to duel, but so popular to the point where using actual cards is a rarity is just weird. The fact that people losing against the Hanoi are being turned into Anothers helps to make this more of a big deal, but that wasn't the case before these last couple of episodes and they're even comparing the AI duelists facing off against the Knights of Hanoi to historical Japanese battles. All that served was primarily to hype up the two new Knights of Hanoi and to get Akira to leave so Aoi could go to Link Vrains on her own. Her situation is rather difficult. She'd want to help fight against the Knights of Hanoi, but she promised her brother that she wouldn't and she knows how much he cares about her too. I wish that there was more focus on Aoi being afraid of the Knights or wanting to get revenge for what they did to her. The latter could show up for her motivation for ultimately joining the fight, but it still seems like she seemingly has no problem dueling again. It would kind of bother me if Akira is the only thing stopping her from fighting against the Knights of Hanoi. She was put into a dangerous and life-threatening situation, but aside from how it has made Akira understandably protective of her, being brainwashed and nearly put into a coma for the rest of her life seemingly had no effect on Aoi herself, which would bother me if that was the case.
     
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    Episode 25

    Well great to see Aoi or Blue Angel back in the fold. But who doesn't know Blue Angel, it seems everyone, even Akira's co worker, is the worst keep secret in the series. Though that Aoi was able to figure Ghost Girl, gives me hope she will figure out Yusaku is Playmaker, that is what I want, I want more people to know.

    Now than, Baira is an interesting character at least. First of all there seems to be a splinter group within the Hanoi Knights, not everyone is on the same page. Faust and Baira have their own goals. Also this is just wild speculation but could Baira be Revolver's sister. We got a little flashback, looked like the three of them were having a picnic, like a date, she said Revolver is like a younger brother to Faust, but she never said what her relationship to Revolver was. Than again wouldn't be easier just said that was little brother. Though for character design point, she could be Aoi's biological sister, but I doubt it.

    Anyway as great as it is to Aoi duel again, she is going to have to lose for plot reasons, as it seem Yusaku needs to duel Baira. Once again Yusaku is going to save the day while all the supporting characters are just there to be saved.
     
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    To be fair, it's possible that SOL Technologies employees learned about Aoi being Blue Angel after she was put into a coma. People at her school, aside from Yusaku, don't know who she is, so it's not like everyone knows. Aoi figured out that Ema was Ghost Girl because of that message she sent to Blue Angel before. If we can get more people to find out that Yusaku is Playmaker, that would be good.

    I suppose it's possible that Baira could be Revolver's sister since we know so little about him and his backstory, but they could have been close to Revolver's father too. I don't see how Baira looks that similar to Aoi though. Aside from having brown hair, they don't look that similar to each other. Plus, if Aoi had a long-lost big sister, that probably would have been mentioned during her backstory with Akira.

    Yeah, that really bothers me too. They already hyped up Baira quite a bit with helping to defeat all of those AI duelists and they've been hinting that Yusaku needs to duel her in order to get the origin of the Another virus, so the chances of Aoi winning aren't that great. A part of me is unsure if they are going to have Aoi lose, mainly because she does have some personal stakes/revenge to take on against Baira and I don't know what losing would accomplish other than Yusaku saving the day again. I've mentioned before that the duels in this series generally lack tension since the outcomes are so obvious with Yusaku's giant plot armors. In this case, I'm unsure about whether or not they want to have Yusaku save the game yet again, which they probably will. I'll be genuinely surprised if Aoi is allowed to win given the setup.

    Anyway, I thought that this episode was okay. Of course, people would say that Onizuka was following in Playmaker's footsteps by taking on the Knights of Hanoi. It isn't inaccurate, but because of all of the hero worshiping of Playmaker, even a small line like that bothers me. At least Yusaku didn't do much this episode, so that was nice.

    The moment with Baira showing some doubt and concerns over their actions would have been better if it wasn't so easily resolved. She still may have some guilt over what they're doing, but it didn't take much for her to feel at ease about it. Not to mention their goal being so vague doesn't really help matters either. They basically want to destroy the Internet, but since it still seems kind of vague and we were just introduced to Baira properly, it didn't quite work.

    Ema going to meet Aoi was kind of odd. She wanted to talk about whether or not she was giving up dueling, but I think what threw me off was the whole "if you can't take responsibility for your actions, you should give up being Blue Angel" bit. Aoi was a victim of the Knights of Hanoi, so I don't know what actions she needed to take responsibility for. Maybe it was some reverse psychology to make Aoi to reconsider her choice, but it seemed weird. She only became Blue Angel so that Akira would appreciate her, but now that she knows that Akira loves her, she doesn't have a reason for dueling. That could have been just a lie since she seemed like she wanted to join the fight in the previous episode and her brother was the only thing holding her back from doing so. I was just kind of confused over the conversation.

    I so wanted Baira to eliminate the annoying news reporters since I'm beyond tired of their comedy routine, but choosing to spare them does make her stand out compared to the grunts attacking everyone around them. Aoi coming in to save them was expected though. I was glad that they acknowledged how Aoi went through a pretty traumatic experience. It kind of felt glossed over since she wants to forget about it and when we learned how she felt during that time, it was told to us. That's arguably one of the biggest problems Vrains has. It keeps telling the audience things that they could have just as easily shown us. Instead of Aoi talking about how she was screaming into an endless void where no one could hear her long after the fact, it would have been potentially more effective to see it when she was in the hospital. That would have added more tension to the duel because we would have seen how the virus was affecting Aoi from her perspective. Instead, the primary focus was on Akira and to a lesser extent Yusaku's reactions to Aoi being in a coma, which is something that will probably keep happening as the series continues. At least she was getting more upset over being reminded of the event and Baira being the one who created the virus gave her more of a personal reason to go after her specifically.

    The duel was okay. I still like Aoi's deck and her combos are pretty effective. While I didn't get the best first impression of Baira's character, her counter strategy to Aoi's deck was pretty good too. It does make sense that Baira would have a deck to counter Aoi's strategies, especially when her Triskstars deck is rather popular. It also worked a nice opposite to Aoi's deck design wise. Her monsters are all cute fairies, while Baira's monsters so far are creepy mummies. She was already at a pretty noticeable disadvantage, which could be a sign that Aoi will make a comeback victory, especially when Akira is watching the duel too. But considering that Yusaku is still looking into the origin of the virus and they've hinted a few times that he'll duel Baira, it still wouldn't surprise me if Aoi loses and Yusaku saves the day once again. Vrains is practically the Yusaku show as it is, so I wouldn't put it pass the writers to pull a stunt like that here either.
     
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    Episode 26

    All right I was proven wrong and I am so happy. Aoi she actually won this duel. I thought for sure she would lose and Yusaku will come to save the day, but no she won this duel. She always able to change Baira's heart, which did cost Baira but she was aware of that.

    So Yusaku all he did was find out Baira true identity, and her age. She is 30 years years old, so she is to old to be any characters we know mother, so scratch that off the list. The only thing about the Yusaku plot, it was so someone would be there to find her and get her to a hospital.

    Anyway great episode, I loved being surprised in a good way.
     
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    I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong about this too. With the way they kept talking about how they needed the virus removal program and how Baira wanted to duel Playmaker, I thought that they were using Aoi to further hype her up and get Yusaku to save the day again. In our defenses, I think that was a reasonable assumption to make considering the Vrains has basically been the Yusaku show, they're just now getting other characters involved in the fight against the Hanoi over twenty episodes into the series and none of them know who Yusaku is.

    Anyway, I thought that this episode was okay. Baira's strategy was still pretty impressive. Not only was she able to cause some effect damage, but she was able to weaken Aoi's Holly Angel while keeping her own monster safe from her Trap card. It was a pretty effective combination. Although, the effect damage throwing Aoi into a few walls was a bit much. It was probably just for dramatic effect, but considering that it's all virtual and she wouldn't feel any actual pain, it isn't nearly as dramatic or intense as they expected it.

    Once Aoi went down to one hundred life points, I figured that she would win, if only because it's typical comeback victory for this franchise. I still don't like how the show paints Akira in the wrong for wanting to stop the duel though. Granted, there's no way he could have stopped it even if he did go to Link Vrains. Aoi wouldn't have wanted that and Baira definitely wouldn't have allowed for it, but I thought his concern was completely valid. He already nearly lost Aoi before and she was at risk of becoming Another with just one hundred life points. I probably wouldn't have minded the notion of a brother's role is to watch on the sideline until the end if the assistant didn't seem so confused as to why Akira was so worried and if the show hadn't painted his concern over his sister in a negative light before. Sure, Aoi was fighting at her full strength, but that shoudn't have meant that Akira's concern for her safety was invalid or he should just wait until it was too late to help her.

    Since Akira couldn't go down to help her, she was down to one hundred life points and her Skill allowed Baira to draw more cards, I figured that she wouldn't draw a Trap card. They were certainly playing it for dramatic effect, which worked better than with the effect damage earlier. Aoi's comeback was pretty nice too. She was able to eliminate one of Baira's monsters, have the Trap Card affect her Link monster and protected her new Link Monster at the same time. Not to mention she caused a bit of effect damage due to the Trickster monsters in her graveyard. That along with attacking her monster allowed for Aoi to win the duel.

    I was pleasantly surprised with the turnout of the match. Not only was Aoi able to win, but she was the one who indirectly save all of the Another victims instead of Yusaku. Yusaku's role in these past two episodes was much more low key than I expected, which I really liked. Yusaku has already gotten so much attention and so much hero worship in-universe that it's nice for them to finally start giving attention to the other characters. If they did this more often, Vrains probably wouldn't feel so much like the Yusaku show.

    Plus, I kind of liked the whole power of believing angle they went with Aoi's victory. It's a nice notion that having the power to keep on hoping could turn things out in your favor. It's typical shonen logic, but it's still nice. Using it to further expand on Baira's character was nice too since that helped to make her feel much less bland than before. Although, I have no idea how old she is supposed to be in the flashback. She is thirty right now, but she barely looked any different in the flashback. She might have looked five years younger tops, so that did make it visually confusing as to how she was so much different when she was younger. Still, I can get behind the idea of feeling like you had more hope when you were younger.

    I'm not sure about how I feel about Aoi just wanting to duel for herself. On one hand, she shouldn't have to put herself in danger to save people if she doesn't want to, but on the other hand, it does make her look much more self-centered than I was expecting, especially when her promise to Akira didn't really seem to prevent her from wanting to help out like I thought at first. It does provide a flaw for Aoi that could be worked on, but despite the surprisingly development here, I still don't have much hope for her to get better treatment. Her first major role was to be put in a coma while Yusaku and Akira tried to rescue her. Given that and the track record of the head writer of the series, I'm not expecting much here. Admittedly, she is dueling more often than I expected, especially within the first arc, but I don't see her getting better treatment. I kind of feel bad in a way for thinking that since I would ideally like to give the show more of a chance in that department. But at the same time, the writer's history given that he wrote the second half of 5D's and all of Zexal makes me think that this train of thinking isn't unfounded. I just have mixed feelings in spite of being happy with how the duel turned out.

    All Yusaku did during these episodes was find out who Baira was, go to her house for virus recovering information and get her to a hospital when Revolver apparently put her in a coma. That's a lot less than I thought he would be doing. Even if Aoi managed to win, I thought that he would find the virus recovery program at her house, but I prefer making his role much smaller. They really need to do that more often. I know that he's the main character and he'll get the most focus/most ability to progress the plot as a result, but they really could give other characters more spotlight more often. I'm not even sure if they needed to wait this long to bring at least Onizuka involved with fighting the Knight of Hanoi. The next episode focuses on Shima, Yusaku's school friend. While I want more focus on other characters, they can skip focus on the comedy relief characters like Shima.

    Despite my mixed feelings on her character, I did like how Aoi was happy at the end with Akira praising her for helping the Another victims. He wouldn't know that she was more focused one getting her revenge, but she seemed happy and that was nice. As nice as her relationship with Akira is, I kind of hope that she'll have more conflict beyond that, which could be possible if they further address the whole self-centered attitude she had here.
     
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    Well the 100 LP didn't convince me she was going to win, it was when Baria was shocked and surprised. The 100 LP rule I always thought that only to the main character and the top antagonists that make the miracle comeback. Maybe I am too use to watching supporting characters lose over the years.

    Aoi is off to a good start, but I remember I thought the same thing about Yuzu how she was not going to be the typical Yu Gi Oh! female lead and look what happened. Let's hope they keep it up.
     
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    It often happens to the main characters, but I'm pretty sure it has happened with other characters too. It makes sense in a way since it puts them in position for a big come from behind victory, although it's true that supporting characters in this franchise lose a lot more often than the main characters do.

    Even with all of the problems Arc V had with its female characters, I still wouldn't say that Yuzu turned out to be a typical Yu-Gi-Oh! female lead. While I wasn't thrilled with how it was handled, Yuzu had to be captured and merged with her counterparts to become Ray in order for the plot to progress. We wouldn't learn why Academia wanted the bracelet girls until they had all four of them and Ray was needed in order to defeat Zarc. Plus, it wasn't like Yuzu's entire world revolved around Yuya. Their relationship had a lot more focus, especially near the end of the series, but it wasn't just the typical main female lead devoted to the main character. They took time to show how important they were to each other, as opposed to it being completely one-sided like with Kotori or even Aki to a lesser degree, so their friendship felt much more genuine as a result. Not to mention Yuzu did form other important connections throughout the series. If it wasn't for her, Serena wouldn't have learned the truth about Academia, which would have allowed Sora to card Shun, and Sora probably wouldn't have turned against Academia when he did. Even Shuzo was the one who finally remembered Yuzu near the end of the series as opposed to Yuya.

    Arc V had its problems with female characters, particularly during its third year, but I still firmly believe that the series was taking good steps forward in that area. There were a lot more female characters during that series than I think most of, if not all of the other series and the majority of them, if not all of them, were important to varying degrees. That may not sound like much, but considering how most of the female characters are handled in other series in this franchise and how there really aren't a lot of female duelists in most other series, that's still some sense of progress, which I appreciated. It genuinely felt like a step in the right direction. I also still firmly believe that Yuzu is the best handled female lead that we've seen thus far. The writing behind her wasn't perfect, but she was important to the overall story, had a genuinely touching relationship with Yuya and was able to form strong connections with other characters throughout the series that were important too. That's a lot more than I can say for other female leads in this franchise, even with the problems with Yuzu in mind.

    As nice as it was for Aoi to surprisingly win the duel and to indirectly stop the Another virus, I can't really say that she's off to a good start. Her first main focus in the series was to be in a coma in order for Yusaku to save her. One surprisingly nice victory isn't really enough for me to overlook that. We didn't even learn how she felt about the experience for nearly twenty episodes and her first duel after being targeted by the villains felt like padding in order to promote her cards more than anything else. Not to mention her conflict seemingly revolving around just her older brother sends some red flag for me. Their relationship is a lot more touching than I thought it would be, but given how sisters in this franchise tend to exist primarily for their brothers to worry and protect them, it does make me worry that she'll just turn out to be motivation fuel for Akira and Yusaku at some point. I also can't stress enough how the head writer's work on other series in this franchise making me doubt the notion that Aoi will be handled better. Given my issues with Vrains or even the Arc V manga, which he also writes and does virtually nothing with Yuzu, it's clear that he hasn't improved in that area and shows no interest in doing anything more with female characters than he has to. There was a statement in the Zexal manga where he said if he was left to his own devices, his stories wouldn't have female characters, or something along those lines.

    If Aoi can somehow turn out to be a decently handled character, then that would pleasantly be surprising too, but I wouldn't count on it. There is nothing about the head writer or Vrains itself that makes me think that they'll give Aoi a good amount of screentime and/or development. I still see Vrains as largely the Yusaku show. Finally giving some focus to Onizuka and Aoi over twenty episodes into the series' run doesn't really change that, especially when Yusaku still had to indirectly help Onizuka win his duel. If they can provide more focus to other characters more often, maybe that would help to make it more plausible, but they'd have to do something much more impressive than Aoi winning one duel for that to happen. At least Yuzu was more directly involved in the plot during the first arc, we learned fairly early on that she would have a key role in the storyline and was basically the deuteragonist of the series. Aoi winning one duel, as nice as it was, doesn't really strike me as nearly as impressive by comparison. Not to mention I think Yuzu had much more personality than Aoi does at the moment, especially when her demeanor as Blue Angel is mostly an act.

    To be fair, I feel like at this point fans can never be content with female characters in this franchise. There are plenty of valid complaints over how female characters are handled in Yu-Gi-Oh! and shonen series in general, but I've also seen a lot of hateful and sexist complaints about female characters in this franchise. You can't please everyone, but it feels like fans are never going to be happy with what they do with female characters regardless.
     
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    Episode 27

    While I don't like other characters having to rescued by Yusaku, Shima is okay, he can be a damsel and be rescued.

    Now than the Knight of Hanoi he throw the duel, I guess that is the only way Shima would get a victory. Still Shima showed some coverage.

    So next episode, we will end this little arc.
     
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    To be fair, it makes more sense for Shima to need rescue than the other characters since he's just the comedy relief character. There was no way he'd actually be able to hold his own against a key member of the Knights of Hanoi.

    The grunt didn't really throw the duel so much as he had a really bad hand, tried to make up for it and Shima just caught a lucky break.

    Anyway, I thought that this episode was okay. While Yusaku's three reason bit can still be annoying, he was pretty much right about why Shima shouldn't go after the Knights of Hanoi. I didn't even think he was being mean about it this time so much as just being blunt. Although, I do think that the dangers of fighting against the Knights of Hanoi have been lowered at least a bit due to the antivirus program. Apparently that didn't eliminate the threat of becoming Another since Yusaku just said that there were fewer cases happening, but that's really stretching how much tension they can get from this conflict. At least after the first wave of Another victims, they changed the virus. That was still an attempt to make it threatening, but it was fairly believable. This is like if they found a way to turn carded victims in Arc V back to normal before the end of the series. It just doesn't work.

    I understand that the scene showing how Shima first joined the Duel Club was supposed to flesh him out and make the audience like him, but it didn't really work for me. It felt more like a blatant attempt to make the audience care more about him before his inevitable capture/downfall. He did want to help fight the Knights of Hanoi before, but he's largely been just the annoying comedy relief side character without much presence beyond that. I wasn't even sure of his name for awhile. The line all show and no substance was referring to his dueling skills, but it also made me think of Vrains in general. Granted, that's a bit too harsh and not entirely accurate, but I do think that the series has more flash than substance at this point.

    I wasn't expecting someone to hand him a Cyberverse card, but of course he'd think that Playmaker chose him. Shima's Link Vrains outfit was really too bulky and overdesigned a bit, but that was probably the point. That was apparently the first time Shima went into Link Vrains, which does make me wonder how characters create their avatars, but that would require explaining how this world functions and the show apparently doesn't want to do that. While I haven't found Shima to be too funny, I have to admit that his duel with the Knight of Hanoi grunt was pretty hilarious. Both of them starting out with terrible hands only to attempt to bluff each other out was pretty funny. I've had terrible opening hands when playing the game too. I didn't need to see overly shojo Playmaker, but that did make me just pause for a moment wondering what the heck I was even watching. The scene was so stupid that it became hilarious, which can work. Shima was extremely lucky to win since if the grunt didn't cut down his life points to summon his monster, Shima would have lost.

    Yusaku was surprised that someone else had his Cyberverse Wizard. At first, I thought that Faust gave the card to Shima, but that wouldn't make sense when he was looking for Playmaker. I think it was Revolver. Revolver most likely knows who Playmaker is based on their previous confrontation, chose someone at random at Yusaku's school to give a Cyberverse card under the pretense of being Playmaker and is trying to lure Yusaku out to confirm his suspicions.

    It was so painfully obvious that Shima was going to attract attention and be captured. He proudly announced himself as Playmaker's associate, played a Cyberverse card and was talking about his actions as Brave Max in the real world. He was entirely too stupid to handle something like this, so being captured was inevitable. For a moment, I thought that they were going to turn Shima into Another, but I'm glad that they didn't due to the whole stretching the tension issue that I mentioned earlier. From a character perspective, I could understand why Shima would still panic at the possibility of becoming Another, but from the audience perspective, it doesn't carry that much weight because we have seen people brought back multiple times at this point. That's why I hope that they'll eventually find some other way to create tension since the Another virus really doesn't work after doing it three times.

    I didn't mind that Shima instantly tried to get out of the duel. He talks a big game, but he's a kid throwing himself into a dangerous situation without fully realizing it. I'd care more if I didn't find him annoying. He isn't the worst character in the show, but I just don't like him and his voice makes him more annoying to me for some reason. I have mixed feelings about Yusaku's reaction to the situation. On one hand, I actually like that Yusaku was worried about Shima. I'd gladly take Yusaku showing concern over other characters over the super stoic and reserved Yusaku that we normally get. It's a lot more interesting and more appealing to me to have a character display more emotions. That's not to say that a stoic character can't be likable or interesting, but I feel like Yusaku is just too bland and boring when he's just stoic. Not to mention it keeps making me see him as Yusei lite, so displaying more emotions and more concern for other characters is nice. On the other hand, I feel like Yusaku's concern for Shima feels too sudden. They haven't really had a lot of bonding moments to convey a sense of friendship. Even Yusaku telling him to not go to Link Vrains and calling him info man for his unnecessary exposition about the start of the Another virus was too sudden for me. They usually only share a couple of scenes at school every now and then, but nothing noteworthy, especially when Shima is doing the bulk of the talking during those scenes. There is also the issue of Yusaku continuing to be the savior of the universe with going on yet another rescue mission, but that would be the case even if I did like their friendship and it was kind of inevitable with a joke character like Shima.

    I kind of want to like the whole Yusaku going off to find where Shima was and getting ready to fight Faust in Link Vrains to save him more than I do. If they had a more natural progression of their bond or at least it didn't feel like Yusaku just suddenly started to like Shima, then I think it would be more effective. Ignis using the upgraded Duel Disk to find Shima's location was kind of weird, mainly because I don't know how a flying duel disk wouldn't attract attention, but it was pretty effective. I'll give the episode some credit. For a Shima focused episode, it worked much better than I expected, but I also went in expecting to be more annoyed at him than I was. The funny scenes, along with Yusaku showing some actual concern for someone else, helped to make it better than I expected, so that was nice.
     
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    Episode 28

    Well that was a pretty good duel, Faust and his Insect Queen was quite impressive. Well Yusaku won this one. I do wish he would have told Ignis to shut up and hear Faust out.

    I don't know what Ignis is up to, obvious he set up the duel in the last episode,hmm.

    Looks like someone has figured out Playmaker's identity, and my guess he could be Revolver.

    Next episode, another clip show you got to be kidding me. What is up with this budget, get them a kickstarter if they need money. I rather they take a week off than give us clip shows like Arc V did from time to time.
     
  11. Light Lucario

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    I kind of why Yusaku didn't listen to Faust. The writers wanted to setup something about Ignis, possibly trying to make him look evil or the real threat despite what the Knights of Hanoi have done, but it felt kind of forced. Yusaku could have easily ignored Ignis and listened to Faust before defeating him. He could have chosen not to believe whatever he said about Ignis either way, so it felt like a forced way to create some drama/tension.

    I assumed that Revolver setup the duel, but Ignis giving the card data to Shima would work out a bit more smoothly. It would explain why Shima of all characters got the card since Ignis would know how much he admires Playmaker. I wouldn't have put it pass the show that Revolver just got the data and just happened to pick Shima out of all of the students at Yusaku's school to make the plot move more smoothly.

    That character in the shadows is most likely Revolver. I doubt that they'd introduce another new character after introducing three knights. Not to mention Revolver finding the truth would be more threatening than some brand new character. It does make me realize that Yusaku going into Baria's home without any kind of disguise was pretty stupid.

    It does sound like the setup for another clip show and I heard a rumor that there was going to be another clip show before episode thirty. If that is the case, then they must be having so many behind the scene problems right now. I thought that the first clip show was poorly timed and added nothing, but I let it slide. Getting a second one less than ten episodes later was the real red flag and getting a third one would be even worse, especially when the animation director apparently apologized on Twitter for the second clip show. I feel kind of bad for the animators since I know that the working conditions at Japanese animation studios are pretty terrible and they have tight deadlines, especially for a long running series like Vrains. But at the same time, I think that they could try something else to save on money.

    Arc V didn't normally take a week off outside of holidays like Golden Week or New Years. There were times where a sport event took over their timeslot, most noticeable with a ping pong tournament right before Yuya's rematch with Jack, but that was beyond their control. I'm not sure if they could just take the week off. They may be obligated to make a certain amount of episodes per season/year, but I agree that taking a week off would be better than another clip show. Even if they somehow made a good clip show episode, it would be kind of moot at this point considering how many they've already made and we're still in the first arc. That is an absolutely terrible sign for the show.

    Anyway, I thought that this episode was okay. Of course Yusaku would show up at the nick of time to save Shima only to ignore him afterwards. The duel itself was okay. Faust's strategy was pretty good, even if it did remind me of Haga's duels back in DM. The sound effects whenever his worm tokens were summoned was so creepy, but that was probably the point.

    They were trying really hard to put Yusaku in a tight spot. Even after his Link summons, Cybeverse Wizard was turned into an insect, he couldn't use it or the worm tokens Faust placed on his field and was down to fifty life points. Crashing into a virtual building still doesn't have the same kind of impact as a character actually feeling that damage. Of course, Yusaku's Spell was just the right card to save the day and break through Faust's combo. And he got a brand new Link monster with his Skill that allowed him to turn the duel around. While I had problems with Onizuka's duel, both that match and Aoi's match were more interesting to watch at least, if only because there was some semblance of tension. They didn't have a get of out jail free card like Yusaku does with Storm access, which makes their duels at least potentially more entertaining.

    They tried to make Faust a bit more interesting with feeling guilt for what he did to those children, but it felt a bit too sudden and lacking. At least Baira's guilt and regret at the end of her duel with Aoi made sense given what they established about her and her reactions to Aoi during the duel. He did want to warn Yusaku about Ignis, but he just ignored him to win the duel. Yusaku wondering about what he meant about humanity's future was kind of strange. If he didn't defeat him right away, he could have gotten at least some clues about it.

    I was kind of hoping for some moment between Yusaku and Shima to make their friendship feel more genuine, but that didn't really happen. Playmaker just gave Shima some vague encouragement while Yusaku tried to downplay his feelings once he got to Shima. It isn't the first time Yusaku hasn't admitted to caring about another person, but I kind of hope that doesn't keep happening, if only because he does need friendships to help make him more interesting and to maybe actually start some kind of healing process for him. I'm still waiting for the magic of friendship to heal Yusaku's emotional trauma because that's what this franchise is all about. It really does feel to me at times that the people behind Vrains have forgotten the main theme of the franchise, especially when there aren't really any noteworthy friendships presented in the show thus far.

    Yusaku seemed to be questioning if Ignis was the one behind the duel and that does seem likely now. Given his reactions to Faust's claims, I wonder if they're going to make Ignis the real threat, but I also wouldn't be surprised if this was just a red hearing to throw the audience for a loop. It does seem like Revolver has found out who Playmaker is. I didn't think that there would be a security camera in Baira's room, but that would make sense. It still makes me wonder in retrospect why Yusaku and Shoichi didn't wear some kind of disguise just to be safe. Maybe they didn't think that they could be connected back to Playmaker, but two random people asking about the Knights of Hanoi would have made them look suspicious to say the least.
     

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