Could say the same for you bub That's ok to not like the show but your reasoning makes little sense. The fight scenes are amazing and almost rival the DCAU fights. I wouldn't call Iron Man a waste from what I saw I wasnt wowed but I wasnt revolted. And its just the pilot. The new X Men show has a decent plot but pacing problems. Pray tell what is the difference between animation and kiddie animation? I went to school for it and graduated and am an animator and I only know 2 types of animation 3D and 2D....hmm...never saw anything called kiddie animation Anger? Irritated but not angry. And your comments were the ones I was addressing because as at least with other people who I disagreed with they have very valid reasons for the shows they like and didn't like. Those shows aren't kids shows though. These ones are. Different ballpark there so I don't know how that factors in at all. If anything you proved here that you don't get it. Superheroes can be all those things. And all those shows are for the most part serious, violent, and likable. You must be one of those guys who thinks that more blood and dark means more adult. But that's not always the case as those can be pushed to the point of being juvenille. I'd hate what you think of comics back when they were actually...profitable.