TZ Animation Wiki Discussion and Feedback

Discussion in 'Animation Wiki Discussion' started by GWOtaku, Jan 26, 2009.

  1. GWOtaku

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    Welcome to the Animation Wiki's project discussion thread! This topic is meant for all general discussion about the Animation Wiki that isn't directly related to the content of the Wiki itself. If you want to suggest ideas for making the Wiki better, this is the place to make them. If you want to call attention and help to a specific goal, this is where you can talk about that. If you'd like to just talk about your progress, feel free. Consider this an open forum to talk about anything concerning the Wiki.

    The moderators will also often use this to talk with you, discuss updates, and to set specific priorities for us to work toward at our own pace.

    In that spirit, to kick things off, here's a quick briefing on a few different issues:

    TZ Wiki Guide

    This is meant to be a comprehensive reference for how to do just about anything. If you have any questions, please raise them in the question thread. We'll answer it and update accordingly. Just as importantly, this thread is meant to be a place where you can talk about the policies that we currently have in place. If you feel as though something could be getting done in a better way (or that it shouldn't be done at all), please feel completely free to respectfully voice your opinion here. The guide is in large part a result of discussions that have been had over the last few months, and we want to provide a place where good feedback can continue.

    Episode Guides

    As discussed, we are now in the process of converting current episode guides to "List of cartoon X episodes." List of will be the standard that should be used from now on.

    Stub Articles

    Not all articles that are stubs are actually categorized as stubs. The moderators will be making a sweep through existing articles and updating things as needed. In the future, if you start an article and it is in a short and/or unfinished state, please give it the [[stub]] tag.

    Top-Down Structure

    While there is complete freedom to work on the wiki, we do want some structured efforts that we can all work on at our own pace. This will benefit the Wiki as well as giving us a collective sense of purpose. As you can see, there is mention of an effective top-down structure in the wiki guide as was helpfully talked about some time ago.

    Here's the trick: we need to decide on what's important. On the top level you have animation creators and distributors. So it comes to this: who are the truly big names we should cover? The biggest studios, the biggest channels and TV blocks? After that, there's the issue of what important cartoons or characters there might be that need more attention or even haven't gotten any yet.

    Do you have nominations for topics that deserve special attention? Make yourself heard.

    Wiki Resources

    Before too long, I'm going to add an appendix or two to the Wiki guide. One will convenienty list all of the most relevant Wiki code in one place for quick reference, and the others will highlight particularly interesting special pages on the Wiki and talk about what they're for. The Wiki is already organized in several interesting ways by default, and the goal is to make it as accessible as possible for anyone to use.

    Site Updates

    Regular updates will once again be posted at least every week on the main Toon Zone website. In general, new articles and significant changes to existing ones will be noted. If you are making small changes, please mark them as minor edits. This will make it much easier to figure out what updates to note in the announcement.

    And that about covers it for now. Good posting!
     
  2. HellCat

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    I've been trying to think of a Category title for shows and such that primarily exist to advertise a toyline or product. Any suggestions?
     
  3. GWOtaku

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    Toyetic cartoons? List of cartoons based on merchandise?

    /brainstorm
     
  4. MonkeyFunk

    MonkeyFunk Kids and grown-ups love me so

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    What's wrong with the "toy-based titles" we've got now?
     
  5. HellCat

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    We have that? *checks* You're right, we do and it was started by.....me.

    >.>

    <.<

    ....Everyone, I assure you the staff knows what they are doing!
     
  6. MonkeyFunk

    MonkeyFunk Kids and grown-ups love me so

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    Tut tut, I say. Next you'll be telling me you forgot that Wikipedia has a category for articles on Welsh atheists.

    But now the subject's been brought up, an article covering toy-based cartoons might be interesting. There could be a section on the ideological issues surrounding the concept.
     
  7. HellCat

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    That would be interesting, but a challenge to write it in a neutral way. I think it's fair to say most such shows aren't exactly high art. For every War Planets: Shadow Raiders, there are ten Beyblades.
     
  8. Radical Raven

    Radical Raven Bow bow bow, bow bow bow...

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    And for every Beyblade, there'll be a Beyblade fan. Just mention something along those lines... something like "...the shows often obtain a devoted fanbase despite their questionable origins.".
     
  9. GWOtaku

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    So everyone knows, if you've noticed that you're unable to make changes it's because editing is temporarily turned off while Zedd works on a few things today. It will be enabled again very soon.
     
  10. GWOtaku

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    And everything is back up.
     
  11. HellCat

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    Getting back to the previous discussion, how would we do such an article? For starters, what was the first such series? And on the 'art vs commercialism' aspect, how do we decide what counts? I'm sure there are some such series that certain fans would get up in arms about if we highlighted them as such.
     
  12. MonkeyFunk

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    I remember Jerry Beck saying (on one of Channel 4's "100 Greatest" shows) that it was He-Man. Might just have been the first American example, though.

    Treat it the same way you'd treat a "reception" section - just describe what other people have said. If we find a juicy attack on toy-based cartoons on the one hand and an equally juicy defense on the other, then we're all set.
     
  13. MonkeyFunk

    MonkeyFunk Kids and grown-ups love me so

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    Image uploads aren't working:
     
  14. GWOtaku

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    Okay, file uploading has been fixed. Thanks for your patience.
     
  15. MonkeyFunk

    MonkeyFunk Kids and grown-ups love me so

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    Just a thought I had: I know that at least three of the regular contributors to this wiki are on the site's news team. How about we make an article for every upcoming project or new release we report on? We can use our news sources as references for the articles.

    It might end up cluttering the Wiki up with stubs, but at least they'd be up-to-date stubs.

    Just an idea I thought I'd pop out in case it spurs a bit more enthusiasm.
     
  16. Kitschensyngk

    Kitschensyngk The kids are all wrong

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    Is there anything wrong with the CSS formatting on the Wiki? It hasn't looked like it normally has for the past few days.l
     
  17. Harley

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    It's fixed now. I was fixing an outstanding issue with the forums and the wiki style broke because of it. Sorry about that.
     
  18. Radical Raven

    Radical Raven Bow bow bow, bow bow bow...

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    So I had this idea about pictures...

    I recently realized that the articles here don't have much space for pictures. On Wikipedia, for instance, if I was making a movie article, I would put a poster or box cover near the top of the page and sprinkle movie screen-shots throughout the plot synopsis; here, though, because of the spoiler rule, plot synopsis's are so short that there's not enough room.

    My idea; and I have no idea whether it's even possible or not; was to create a "pciture" tab, at the top of the page (you know, next to the "discussion" tab) where screenshots could go. Kind of like what Gamespot does. Any thoughts?
     
  19. MonkeyFunk

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    Hmmm... I think at that point you might as well just include an external link to a gallery that's online. Most big-name releases should have one somewhere.
     
  20. Radical Raven

    Radical Raven Bow bow bow, bow bow bow...

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    But what about the more obscure stuff?
     

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