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The Fairly Oddparents, Season 10 News and Discussion Thread Part 2

Discussion in 'The Nicktoons Forum' started by Neo Yi, Feb 18, 2017.

  1. ShadowBeast

    ShadowBeast Well-Known Member

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    You've gotta be careful of following any "celebrity" on twitter. I highly recommend avoiding the ones who talk/retweets about politics.

    I think Hartman work has been degrading before even season 9. Look how quickly TUFF Puppy went into using the same characters over and over again.
     
  2. Ghostbuster

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    Sorry for the double post..

    Butch has created animated short featuring an anime version of FOP:



    From a previous post:

    After a conversion about the recent TV cartoon shows turning into movies (Teen Titans Go, Bob’s Burgers) - Butch divulges info about the cancelled Fairly OddParents feature film by Paramount and Nickelodeon!



    Update: Butch talks about a lost episode of Fairly OddParents:

     
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    Sorry for the double post..

    Butch discusses why he added Chloe to the cast:

     
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    I believe him in how the network insisted on adding new characters, (and perhaps Chloe herself was a parody of Mary Sue characters), doesn't explain why his show's humor has changed for the worse.
    Maybe his sense was of humor, it's hard to find any long-running show stay consistent in quality or even tone.


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  5. Toonberculosis

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    An honest title would be "Butch talks about Star Wars for 15 minutes while briefly dismissing complaints about Chloe", but that ain't how you get clicks.

    I never minded Poof the character himself, but I do agree with those that say a fundamental change happened to the overall enjoyment of the show around the time he was introduced, and it only got worse around the introduction of Sparky or Chloe (Though they were undeniably bad additions). It's really hard to pinpoint what, more long-term fans of the show might be able to articulate it better, but I personally feel as if things got too predictable. It was around this time that Hartman took the "running joke x3" thing in an episode and really ran with it.

    Most of the comments though, aren't just lambasting Chloe or Sparky, but they are asking things like, "Where is Chester/AJ/Vicky/Francis/Tootie/Trixie?" mainly Timmy's human peers. They added Chloe when you had a whole cast of characters already filling her role as Timmy's friendenemy, romantic interest, or deserving of fairies. Sparky was just another dumb Cosmo-lite and was the worst character in the long storied history of all of Nicktoons and anyone who could see two feet in front of them could tell you that character was going to fail.

    Hartman's excuse for these abominations is that "we were going on for so long we HAD to do something else" but then he continued to spam Crocker, Cosmo, or Timmy's dad in all these episodes even after these characters were added. Sorry for the long post, I've long since gave up on this cartoon, but watching this and hearing Hartman mock critics and try to blame execs for his failures just irks me. I normally like his YT channel videos but this is a load of CartoonBrew-tier clickbait crap.
     
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  6. ShadowBeast

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    She's not really a mary-sue though since she obviously can't help others without causing more trouble. She does have a few mary-sue moments, but she has far more crazy moments where even Crocker looks at her at being nuts. But Chloe is just a goody-goody who has has goody-goody intentions backfire on her like Timmy with his wishes.
    But yeah, to me, Chloe was the only well written character of last season with Timmy being a jerk, Cosmo and Timmy's Dad being overly-stupid, Vicky being a rage-aholic monster, Cosmo and Wanda's marriage being turned dysfunctional, and finally well-known characters disappearing. But all this has been happening since Poof's arrival, possibly even before that. Hartman makes claim about Cosmo,Crocker, and Timmy's Dad being everybody's favorites. But I think they're just his favorites and he can't help but force them into the show. And since Hartman hires yes-men as part of his creative team, no fresh ideas are allowed in.

    Personally Chloe wasn't the problem with the show, it's Hartman and his overuse of dumb characters and bad writing that is the real problem.
    But yeah, it seems like Hartman was trying advert away from the fans' complaints by talking about the highly criticized Star Wars prequels as a distraction.
     
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  7. Ghostbuster

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    Should of posted Butch's description:

    "Butch Hartman (Fairly OddParents creator) talks about the evolution of Fairly OddParents over 16 years of airing on Nickelodeon during a Star Wars conversation with Jace Diehl."
     
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    Chloe isn't a bad character. Yes, they didn't show her flaws all that much, but does provide new and unique wishes that Timmy would never wish for.

    The only thing that really bothered me about modern FOP is the amount of Timmy torture porn that really wasn't necessary. I would have preferred if Cosmo and Wanda weren't always comparing Timmy to Chloe and making everyone really dumb.

    I guess Hartman really doesn't want to be involved with the fan's criticisms and tries to avoid the complaints at all costs nowadays.
     

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