SVES the Loser; Toonami the Victor

Discussion in 'Toonami (Archived Forum)' started by Killtacular, Feb 25, 2004.

  1. Killtacular

    Killtacular the race wars had begun

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    lol. that's cute. keep thinking that. it'll make the rude awakening that much sweeter, to me.

    CN is not going to do something they'll potentially be at risk for. Having a block aimed at teens only means a change in the programming and acquisitions, not the content itself.

    Maune or someone else would be very wise to check with their contacts, but I'm pretty sure I already know what the answer's gonna be. The same one I was given when Yu Yu Hakusho was premiering on Toonami.
     
  2. Beat

    Beat Retired

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    Then we're right back to square 1.

    One Piece and the Ninja show on Adult Swim...
     
  3. Duke

    Duke Truer Words Were Never Spoken

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    Bah. Don't crush our hopes MW, we're happy for once.
     
  4. JohnCrichton

    JohnCrichton An astronaut! Moderator

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    Who cares if the programming isn't TV PG? :confused:


    This pretty much makes it a lock that One Piece and The Ninja Show get to be... where they belong, while Adult Swim on the other hand can have some adult programming.

    Why the hell would they want That Ninja Show over an adult anime like Ninja Scroll TV?
     
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    1. Uh, everybody. Toonami changing their standards won't mean jack crap unless the edits change too.

    2. Ninja Scroll TV belongs to who?
     
  7. Swordfish_II

    Swordfish_II New Member

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    What would be wrong with a block of shows aimed at a 13+ audience to be TV-PG? Most of the family sitcoms airing on the networks are TV-PG.

    And most of these ratings seem arbitrary to me anyway. I'm fairly sure there were more TV-14 episodes of Big O during the reruns than on the initial run.
     
  8. Cyber E.

    Cyber E. New Member

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    Its going to help when these two shows get licensed, dubbed, and possibly air on CN, let alone Toonami or whatever "teen" block is on by that time.

    Because Adult Swim is giving CN more ratings than Toonami and SVES combined?
     
  9. AlphaPrime

    AlphaPrime Zanza, The Fighter for Hire.

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    BWAHAHAHA!!! Now Energon will get to be on a worthy block!!!! Me likeys, and i thought SVES would become Toonami, not this way but it works for me! Just hope they can go TV-PG or else i'll still want that ninja show and One Piece on ASA. And i hope they go for the original openings and get rid of Toonami customs.
     
  10. Duke

    Duke Truer Words Were Never Spoken

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    Because Adult Swim has better killer apps right now, and Futurama & Family Guy.

    Sans those two, Teen Titans is the highest rated program on the network.
     
  11. Cyber E.

    Cyber E. New Member

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    So because they have two high rating shows (for ASC, ASA never gets in the Top 100 anymore) they shouldn't get anything else that can be potentially popular and get good ratings? I don't understand what you mean, nor what this "apps" is.
     
  12. Duke

    Duke Truer Words Were Never Spoken

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    No, I'm saying that Toonami hasn't had a real killer app since Kenshin. (Perhaps SDG...)

    And apps means a big-name show that people look to and say "That is what such-and-such is all about!"

    Witch Hunter Robin is ASA's killer app right now, the last one being InuYasha.
     
  13. rhudson765

    rhudson765 New Member

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    A Pyrric victory at best. ZAKO!
     
  14. rhudson765

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    hrric victory at best.
    But Totally Spies instead of SD Gundam season two.

    I love Teen Titans but there is not enough eps for a strip..


    WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. Swordfish_II

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    I have a feeling that the 7-12 was a mistake and the block will only be 7-11. After all, if the plans for Adult Swim Saturday had changed in the month since it was confirmed, we should have been informed by now.

    And coincedentally, the shows listed for Toonami add up to 4 hours of programming (provided all those shows listed air at the same time...).

    EDIT: I misread some crap.
     
  16. Cyber E.

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    By the time Teen Titans gets the weekday spot it is going to have 26 episodes, the first two seasons with the next two being worked on already. It has enough for a weekday slot now thanks to S2.
     
  17. MattThomasM2B

    MattThomasM2B The End Is Here.

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    I do. Because if it isn't, all this means is that we're stuck with Toonami's custom openings' on Saturdays instead of the originals and that weekdays will be taken over by crap 'money maker' shows with no compensation for our trouble.
     
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  18. Duke

    Duke Truer Words Were Never Spoken

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    Lesse, we have GT, YuYu, Kenshin, SEED, Energon, and Megas XLR confirmed, correct? Who says they won't put on DBZ, Cyborg 009, Justice League, and Samurai Jack?
     
  19. William C. Maune

    William C. Maune TZ News Editor in Chief

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    Just as I was coming to post on the very subject!

    According to sources, don't expect a sudden shift to a "TV-PG" block. Starting out this will be more like Adult Swim Action when it started, although not quite to that extent. As the press release stated, the block will be targeting teens (i.e. shows like Kenshin stick around), and they plan to push the boundaries, but it will be slowly.

    What can you expect? As some have already speculated, the "higher content" shows will likely be towards the end of the block and the last hour is where they will start to drop in some TV-PG episodes. Assuming things go alright with that, the amount of "middle-ground" edited programming will slowly grow.

    Frankly, this is probably the best way for Cartoon Network to do things. Many had already speculated that a middle-ground block would be very hard to pull off and that is way it has to be approached gradually. When shifting to something like this you don't want to tip the boat over at the very beginning.

    The main news for the annoucement today isn't that we are suddenly getting a teen block, it is that we are suddenly getting something that could evolve into a teen block. In its old format (outside of Gundam Wing MNR and Iron Giant) Toonami was pretty much stuck at TV-Y7. Now they can start mixing it up a bit.

    The good news is that the programming on the block already does, or likely will already push the limits of TV-Y7. CN gets away with more in their TV-Y7 material already than any other network on televsion. Toonami will get the higher end of those shows, while Mizugi will get the lower end. You'd never see Kenshin, YYH, Gundam SEED, etc. on any other network's block. Thus, we are already a lot closer to the goal than Adult Swim Action was when it started.

    Basically, we are shifting and stepping in the right direction, but don't except a sudden shift overnight. Good things take time.
     
  20. JohnCrichton

    JohnCrichton An astronaut! Moderator

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    That doesn't mean they'll start airing stuff that doesn't belong on the block tho. Just because it gets great ratings doesn't mean they'll start picking the next Pokemon UNCUT and Hikaru No Go... it just means they're flying high and pretty with what they're doing and that showing adult anime; not showing anime who'd spend an episode teaching children the value of teamwork or that it's okay to cry.

    Adult Swim should get Ninja Scroll TV if it wants a ninja. Because it's adult.

    There's nothing wrong with it, I just don't care, so long as I get the shows and the stories with them. I mean, I care as much about a cigarette edit, as I do about not hearing curse words on the radio when listening to my favorite song.
     

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