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RULE NEW YORK (The End!)

Discussion in 'Fun & Games' started by jph139, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. SpideyFan914

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    ....

    Where am I? How did I get here? What is happening?

    These are the only thoughts in the man's head as he peers around. It is dark, almost cavern-like. A candle lights one end of the tunnel, and the man can see a railroad on the bottom. This must be the abandoned subways - no one's been down here in nearly forty years....

    "Emperor Boris I."

    He wips his head around. The voice sounds familiar, but it's impossible. His eyes bulge wide.

    This isn't possible! he thinks. You're dead!

    Viktor Holding laughs through his hockey mask, as he moves forward slowly - too slowly. As the ghostly figure comes forward, Boris realizes that he now rests in a wheelchair.

    "It took ages to recover. I was comatose for a very long time. How many years has it been? Twenty? Thirty? I had to wait until medicine improved. I was able to get around in this chair, and I was soon even able to move my arms - that's all I needed to kill you. Martin here would do the rest...."

    Boris suddenly notices the other man in the tunnel, that large hulking figure who frequently paired himself with Holding, long long ago, holding up a camera, taping the events.

    "But it wasn't enough, you see. It's not just about killing you - it's about relishing in your demise! I must be able to speak. Seriously, what took Logi so long to work up that cure, huh?"

    How.... he finally speaks. How are you still alive?

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!! "It's actually quite funny! You remember how 'I' kept pleading innocent before they killed me off? That was no lie - you see, the man they executed really was innocent! Martin made the switch, using a car bombing or something like that for his cover. They said it was an assassination attempt.

    "But no, I've been biding my time, waiting until you thought you were safe.... And now, now that I'm recovered and you're all washed up.... It's time for me to meet my maker, and for you to meet yours."


    Who are you?

    "My name is Viktor Holding. I saved the people of Bayside from gangsters, and then kept them from starvation by feeding them the remains of those gangsters. And they called Geraci a cannibal...."

    He has two knives out now, scraping them against each other, making that horrible noise, the kind you hear just before you die.

    "You see, the truth is that I was a horrible leader. I killed hundreds of innocents. I fed my people human flesh. I offered no freedoms, except to leave if they wished. After all, my people, my country - it was all just a MEANS, a means to a single end....

    "This end."

    It's hard to tell which is louder - the screams of Boris as the knives delve into his flesh, or the laughs of Holding as he lets loose all the insanity of his aging years.

    "But I'm NOT the worst of them! That's the juicy part! I'm not the only one whose killed innocents - we've ALL killed innocents! I may have sold human meat, but it was always the meat of those who were already dead! And I may have massacred countless lives, but it was everyone else who led me to do it!

    "Not even you are the worst of them, Boris! No, you're just a personal annoyance! I don't have any moral transgressions with you that I don't have with everyone else.

    "I want to kill you for what you did to ME."

    He keeps lashing out at Boris, letting him bleed, letting him drip, and letting his healing factor kick in so can bleed and drip all over again. Holding never lets up, just keeps stabbing, keeps slashing, keeps beating him over the head. And all the while, one question keeps hitting Boris harder than any of Holding's blows - WHAT DID I DO TO YOU???

    "You did THIS!!!!!"

    Suddenly, Holding tears off his mask as it falls gently aside and sinks into a dark puddle.

    The face of Viktor Holding.... He has no face.

    There is a large hole where his nose should be. A deep cut stretches across his face. The skin around is old and rotting, with bugs eating at his flesh. The expired emperor takes one look, and vomits a chunk of blood.

    "I was once what they call 'a good man.' The army men hailed me as a hero. I had a wife and two kids. They went to NYU when Davis took charge. And me - I was a doctor. A DOCTOR!!

    "But no, you took it all away. You proved me wrong. You could've had peace, Boris. Thanks to F. B. Douglas, you could have had peace. But you backstabbed Greenwich and invaded just for the heck of it. You killed hundreds.

    "You killed my family, right before my eyes."

    Holding stabs him again, right in the heart.

    "I did what I could to set the record even. I invaded the Empire, just for the heck of it. I killed hundreds. But you never had a family. So I have to settle for the next-best thing, and you kill you instead.

    "It doesn't do it justice, really. I wish you'd killed me too. But all you gave me was these scars, to remind me of everything the world is.

    "Martin Bole found me and patched me up, and together we escaped to build Scarnia. It's unfortunate, too - he'd have killed to hear all this, but alas he's deaf and dumb."

    Please.... he begs. I'm sorry.... I didn't mean for them to.... I didn't know they....

    "Hush, elder Emperor. You see, there's one thing you really don't understand. I want to kill you, you see, but that does not mean I hate you. In fact, I quite admire you. You showed me the error of my ways, revealed to me the truth about the world. You taught me that people are selfish, that we will kill to get what we want.

    "ALL people. I said I was hailed as a good man, Boris, but I never claimed to have been a good man. If I ever were, then nothing could have brought me to do the things I've done. But something did. I'm sure if my wife had been the one to survive, or one of my kids, they'd have all gone down this very same path. That's right, they weren't good people either.

    "You can't trust anyone, really. I trust Martin, I suppose, but that doesn't mean I should. After all, if it weren't for him, I'd probably be dead and happy by now. But I'm not sure, Boris, if you really understand what I'm telling you right now. And that is why you must die. Because that is how I will return the favor you gave me, when I tear every shred of humanity from your body."

    But.... But that doesn't make sense! If you aren't angry, then why....? This isn't about revenge?

    The scars begin to spread, almost as though Viktor Holding is.... smiling....

    "No, it's no about revenge. It's about having something to do in a world where nothing means everything."

    Fade to black....

    The puddles on the ground make a noise, a splashing noise. A head has fallen. It is over.

    Viktor Holding leans back in his wheelchair, relaxed, at ease, and content. And yet, a question passes through his mind: Now what?

    He wheels over to Martin Bole, with a look of concern. Bole understands - he knew this was coming. He sets down the camera, removing the tape and placing it in a protective plastic bag. He then hands something to Holding. A detonator.

    Viktor Holding laughs. Very good - let's hope we're under Times Square. We all become grateful when we're dead.

    Fires rise up. The tunnels fill with flames. The ground above collapses. The tunnels fill with water.

    The dead remain dead. Ghosts never return.
     
  2. The Huntsman

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    I had you under constant surveillance. Really, the whole explosion didn't make much sense, but it is what it is. I know you wanted revenge on Boris, but I want to go on record that I don't believe a player should be able to change another player's ending. So because Johnny didn't mention that you killed Boris, I vote that canonically, it never happened. This is all a dream in Viktor Holding's comatose state. Or if you want to play this game, I advised Emperor Boris to get a bunch of Saddam Hussein like body doubles. The real Emperor Boris snuck out of the nation and took over Australia with a kangaroo army. You killed some random guard.

    Which I told you would happen... Seriously, you're just as much at fault.

    No, he didn't.
     
  3. SpideyFan914

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    Actually, that's the point. I left the whole sequence intentionally vague so that it's unclear if it actually happened or not. Maybe it's truth, maybe it's just that book that Philip Bradley wrote. Or even if it is that book Philip Bradley wrote, I threw in the tape so that there's a possibility the book is accurate! After all, Johnny never specified HOW Boris died.... ;)

    I was going to just make a non-canon post in the event that Johnny didn't mention my killing Boris, but this is better methinks. I like the mystery.


    Yes, but I knew things you didn't know. You see, Douglas actually wasn't working for the Empire. He was kind of crazy, but he told Davis that when Boris gave him land, he'd turn it over to Davis. Haven't you ever wondered how I escaped? He LET me go!

    Seriously, stop acting like you're so pissed off that I didn't take your advice. It's really not a big deal and it really has nothing to do with you.


    Actually, that one's true.
     
  4. Blankments

    Blankments The Sparkle Rises!

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    Well, for one thing, I had originally planned killing off Damien halfway through the game and replacing him with Michael who was introduced in the robot videos earlier as a hinted communist. Then he was supposed to overthrow the existing the democratic government and become a character much like a communist Viktor Holding. That didn't happen due to stuff in my life taking up way too much time than expected, but I had already introduced Michael, so I brought him back for the Senate run, along with introducing Johanna for a slightly happy ending. Michael and Johanna are still alive, and, in case of a direct sequel to this game, I will play as one of them, just for continuity sake. Plus, I have plans for Michael... ;)

    Oh, and something else you may not have noticed. Originally, my secret project was an atomic bomb. Since the end of the game was approaching, I had planned on nuking the U.S. (Detroit was my target) and starting a war to end the game. When I saw that we had voted Pro-Independence instead, I still wanted to nuke the U.S. just for the end of the game, so I made a cover of curing cancer. However, as I thought about it, the game was going to end anyway, so why not make Damien Logi be a great man and have him cure cancer? So, that's why Damien ended up being a huge health advocate instead of a terrible man.
     
  5. The Huntsman

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    I was right when I called you out on it, then. :p
     
  6. Superpan

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    Well...Holding is just some dude? That was anti-climactic.

    Well, I didn't really get to meet any of my character goals in this game, but I'll have to look over the PMs before I can give a complete listing.

    1. AL GERACI CENSORED THE MEDIA

    2. Every criminal in the kingdom was executed...proven guilty or not.

    3. When food stores were running low, Al initiated "Operation: Soylent Green" which at first was only done to dead Harmony Hall soldiers.

    4. Al captured, tortured, and interrogated five men during the war about how to defeat Tweed. They were all but useless and were allowed to start new lives in the Kingdom of New York.

    5. It seems obvious that all people who did not conform to one way of living were all executed. After the war, the food stores were depleted so only the recently dead and the homeless were put into the process.

    6. Al tried to get the USA to destroy everyone by intensifying the conflict between Harmony Hall and the USA by kidnapping and killing that family.

    7. Al also killed everyone in that socialist party.

    8. Everyone who lived under the rule of Uncle Vinnie was also killed and processed. This provided much food and low-income housing to the citizens of the Kingdom. The war with Boris was attempted for the same reason.

    9. Most people that Johnny created who spoke out against me were killed and their families paid off.

    10. F. B. Douglas was beaten, starved, and tortured until he agreed to help (until it was apparently decided that my character was over with).

    I won't say all my thoughts on how my character was ended, but I envisioned Al Geraci as "Efficent Evil" and thus never made any deal with Big-G Global to kidnap people from their country. In fact, I was beginng to shut down Operation: Soylent Green at the time that happened. I guess you could say my advisors made the deal, but I had the character controlling 100% of everything in that country (that's why I never hired a general) and he SHOULD HAVE known about it.

    Moral of the story: Never play a villain. You'll spend all of your time covering your tracks in PMs which you'll feel guilty about and then the game will find a way to ruin everything and apparently take your game away from you despite the fact you didn't CHOOSE that option.

    That said...one question. Al Geraci was stabbed by Superpan. Who was the poor schmuck that was tried and executed? Frankie Fusilli?
     
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  7. Radical Raven

    Radical Raven Bow bow bow, bow bow bow...

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    I only skimmed your post, spideyfan, but from what I see, I think my most prudent move would be to honor the emperors memory by continuing to be unaware of Viktor Holding's existence.:p It is kind of disappointing that you just went with the "guy who got screwed over during the war" route, though, and that his mask was just hiding a scrwed-up face - I was expecting a vampire, personally.

    As for Al Geraci's execution, I dunno. It was the first order I - through Michael Krum - gave, and Johnny allowed me to fulfill it...maybe, I dunno, Emperor Raven-Prime retconned him back into existence?:sweat: However, whatever the case, your acknowldegement of the cannibalization makes me even less sad that I took over your government. We SHARED FOOD, darn it!

    Oh, that reminds me, one last confession: I lied to you at one point, Huntsman. Sorry. When I said that I had tested the food stores and found that they contained human meat, that was just Boris desperately trying to get one of his enemies off his back. Since Geraci resigned, though, it worked without you having to go to war, and anyway I WAS right even if I didn't know it...
     
  8. The Huntsman

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    I didn't believe you anyway. I took Superpan at his word when he said he was innocent, although his fierce opposition to my investigation did cast a huge shadow on that.

    I'm currently working on a zombie RPG, but the more I think about it, the more I feel like I should start up another Rule The World instead.
     
  9. Superpan

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    Uh....I was trying to cooperate by destroying everything involved with it. I was also controlling what you did in my country. That was part of the deal.

    See, I actually paid all the people involved with Operation Soylent Green to quietly retire to a life of luxury and I would have thought they would have appreciated me......but apparently, too many resources.......see sometimes, I can't help but wonder if this "throw resources at a problem to win something" is a good approach. I know that the amount of resources that are stockpiled is how we've decided to decide the winner by, but that gives a badly weighted advantage to an nation.
     
  10. SpideyFan914

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    Yes.... You should've killed them.
     
  11. Superpan

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    But then wouldn't they have noticed all the newly dead people?

    See, I wanted Geraci to be a realistic villain...y'know, he never does anything without a reason and he tries to make things as clean as possible. The only large-scale mass murder outside of war was the complete execution of everyone in the Socialist Party and even then their families didn't care once the government paid them all off.

    Another plot hole in Johnny's story: They said they witnessed Al eating people. However, how is that remarkable? Everyone in the Kingdom was eating dead people. See the obvious moral complexity? Apparently, everyone just ignored the fact that they owed their survival to eating human flesh for three years. I don't know, I went to all that effort to create an interesting villain and I just felt his story was hijacked and Raven ended up getting my character.
     
  12. SpideyFan914

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    See, that's why Holding only fed the already-deceased. Of course, they were all examined ahead of time to check for diseases. That's why the hurricane wasn't really THAT bad - it gave us so much food!
     
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    Well, with most people they were eating dead PROCESSED people. With Geraci, I recall some orders to specifically execute and then eat dissidents or at least some specific dissidents. Two different beasts, there.
     
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    So basically, it's the customers at Mrs. Lovett's Meat Pies vs. Hannibal Lecter himself.
     
  15. Superpan

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    The technical name for the mystery meat was "Soylent Lovett Meat Pies". Yeah, I based the system around a combination of Sweeney Todd and Soylent Green.

    Also the dissidents that were executed were the Socialists. No political freedom under King Al, get it? Frankly, I'm surprised no one noticed how they all disappeared.

    Now, I don't want to sound ignorant, but when did Viktor Holding ever eat people?
     
  16. Radical Raven

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    Actually, I did. I tried to contact them during our first war to get them to help me, but was told that no one wanted to talk about them. I just assumed you had killed them, though.
     
  17. Superpan

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    Ohhhh.....yeah. Still I was wondering why no one did anything about it. I was especially saddened to see Geraci get away with the complete massacre of Uncle Vinnie's people.....kind've makes those early updates where they're the happiest people in New York a little depressing, no?
     
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  18. Radical Raven

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    Well, technically, he didn't get away with it. That's what sparked off Boris's leaving the alliance, which caused considerable inconvenience for Geraci and may, according to whatever wacky science runs this thing, have resulted in his death. It took a long time, is all, but it did come back to bite him.

    Unless you were planning to attack me anyway...
     
  19. SpideyFan914

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    Did you read that final revelation post? Holding had cannibalistic policies in place from the day he took office! He later got rid of them when alternative food sources came affordable - really just to cover his tracks, admittedly. However, after the war with Respite Island, since no one would lend a hand in rebuilding Scarnia, he re-instituted those "let's eat the dead!" policies once more. It's just that no one ever questioned why we were suddenly not hungry, so no one ever found out.
     
  20. Superpan

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    Oh, that's why you left. I thought you were declaring war on everyone. Besides, I thought you were only upset about what happened to Vinnie. I don't know how you knew about the murder of every man, woman, and child.

    As to Spideyfan....I CALL FIRSTIES! :p

    No, seriously, I call being this game's resident cannibal.
     

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