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Discussion in 'Saturday Morning Forever!' started by hobbyfan, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. Kenny E. McCall

    Kenny E. McCall We fight like cats!

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    Correct Amundo, Hobbyfan. Joe Ruby and Ken Spears did develop the show for DFE, so the rights to the show can go either way. And while Bailey's Comets under Marvel could go the way of the Super Hero Squad format, Joe and Ken could revise the format and bring it to Warner Brothers, where there could be more possibilities for the series, including the anthropomorphic route, putting them into a run-in with their animated cousins from Hanna-Barbera in the Skatebirds, all while keeping the original flavor of the 1973 series.

    Kenny :cool:
     
  2. Kenny E. McCall

    Kenny E. McCall We fight like cats!

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    Okay folks, I have returned with a fourth-season look at the Impossibles. Enjoy.

    SEASON four
    (Fifteen Episodes, plus one special episode)

    Episode 4-1:
    The claws of the cheetah, paws of the wildmane
    By Kenny Eugene McCall

    Princess Diana of Themiscyra, otherwise known as Wonder Woman (Susan Eisenberg), makes a special appearance in this Impossibles episode where the band’s grand-aunt, Priscilla Rich (Marlene Aragon in a dual role), visits her niece Debbi for the weekend. Meanwhile, the band and cousin Ben Tennyson (Yuri Lowenthal) are helping the Amazon Princess tangle with the Cheetah, Barbara Minerva (Sheryl Lee Ralph) in Gateway City, where they are doing a concert for the Gateway Children’s home at Holiday College! Later, Debbi gets a visit from Barbara, an old friend of hers from college, when the two women finally meet Priscilla Rich for the first time! But, something is very wrong with Debbi and Barbara as both women find themselves drained of part of their powers – by Auntie Priscilla! Uh Oh! The original Cheetah is back, and stronger and faster than ever! But, all three Cheetahs are in for a shocking surprise as Deanna Dumanis finds herself suddenly changing, changing into a Vulpimancer/human hybrid named Wildmane! And with Felina Fatale and the Barbara Minerva Cheetah on the pursuit of the new Priscilla Rich Cheetah, Wildmane and Tigerella find themselves teaming up with Wonder Woman to deal with both Priscilla and Barbara, and restoring their mom’s powers! But, would Debbi need all that power, especially when her own daughters have achieved their second forms? Plus, Deanna and Dianna Dumanis join Diana Prince in a brand-new original song called “No Ordinary Woman” in this one hour episode!

    Episode 4-2: introducing: Lady Frankenstein!
    By Kenny Eugene McCall

    The Impossibles find themselves in the high-technology town of Taft City, where they meet Dianna’s young genius friend, Eliza Beth Conroy (Kerry Williams). She is a twelve year old girl whose father, Professor Kevin “Buzz” Conroy (voiced by his namesake, Kevin Conroy), used to build and pilot a super-intelligent robot named Frankenstein Jr. almost 35 years ago! And when her father is captured by members of a multinational outfit with ties to the terrorist organization FEAR, the band is about to be introduced to Eliza’s new creation, a sentient female shapeshifting robot named Lady Frankenstein (Carol Jacobanis)! Now, a new team is formed as today’s Impossibles find themselves joining Lady Frankenstein on a mission to free her father from the minions of FEAR, and an army of dangerous super-soldier cyborgs called the Defendroids! Plus, Professor Conroy and his wife Adrienne (Adrienne Barbeau) finally meet Dr. Arthur and Deborah Dumanis, the parents of the Impossibles, for the first time in twenty years in this episode!

    Episode 4-3: The life and times of Samson Young
    By Kenny Eugene McCall

    A longtime friend of the family named Moses Young (Casey Kasem) has finally decided to come home to Port Domaine after a long, eventful, four-year humanitarian mission in Israel. Better yet, the Dumanis boys’ childhood friend, Samson Young (Ben Savage), and his dog Goliath, have reunited with the boys, unaware that his friends have become bona fide superheroes! The same can be said for the Impossibles, as they don’t know that Sam has become a superhero himself! But when an evil witch doctor named Monatabu (Arnold Vosloo) unleashes an Iguanasaurus upon Port Domaine, the band find themselves meeting Sam’s muscular adult alter ego, Mighty Samson (Cameron Clarke) and his powerful lion, Goliath, as the heroes team up to bring down this evil sorcerer and his monster! Plus, a beautiful singer named Delilah Deville and her cat, Jezebel comes to Port Domaine to cause trouble for the Impossibles, only for Samson Young to return the favor to the band and get caught up in Delilah’s spell next episode!

    Episode 4-4: mighty Samson and Magical Delilah: A Love Story
    By Kenny Eugene McCall

    Dianna, Deanna, and Natalia find themselves at a meet-and-greet for radio station KDME, where they are introduced to the beautiful Delilah DeVille (Ariana Grande), a new teen pop sensation looking to perform with the Impossibles on their U.S. tour! But, as the band meets her and her Persian cat Jezebel, their friend Samson Young arrives at the event and finds himself under Delilah’s hypnotic enthrall! But, is this spell a spell of love, or something else far more insidious, especially when it involves Jezebel? That’s what the girls and Goliath want to know! Plus, is there something going on between Goliath’s lion form and Jezebel’s tigress form? It’s a new and interesting take on the Biblical story of Samson and Delilah! But, could Sam and Delilah be the newest “it” couple in the new Impossibles Universe? Find out in this special romantic episode!

    Episode 4-5: Welcome to Gravedale Academy
    By Kenny Eugene McCall

    The Drak Pack makes a return appearance, as Max Tennyson introduces the Impossibles to an old friend of his (and an Anodite Plumber) named Attlepate Crone (Malachi Throne), and his wife, Apparitia (a witch, voiced by Georgia Brown). They are the headmasters of a new training facility for monster-themed Plumber’s children called Gravedale Plumber’s Academy! But, the real story is that of two of its students: Francesca “Frankentyke” Stone (Tara Strong), and Vincent Draculon (Andy Milder). They’re the younger sister and brother of Drak Pack members Franklin Stone, Vampiro and Vampira Draculon who are turning to the dark side and using their powers in the service of Doctor Dred! And, when Botanica confronts Vinnie on his poor choices in his life, they find themselves under attack from Zombozo and the Circus Freaks! Big mistake, guys, because there’s two superteams and about 300 students and faculty ready to kick your ass in this episode!

    Episode 4-6: The Arabian Knight Adventure
    by Kenny Eugene McCall

    Meet Baghdad’s answer to the Justice League as the Impossibles take a trip to war-torn Iraq, only for the band to meet an American soldier named Charles Dawson Butler (Jason David Frank) and his twin sister, Red Cross relief worker Nancy Lee Butler (Amy Jo Johnson), and find everybody caught up in a battle between members of Chuck’s Marine Corps unit and the Taliban! Lucky for the band and the Butler twins, a powerful genie named Shazzan (Oded Fehr) teleports everybody to ancient Baghdad, where the band meets the legendary Arabian Knights, and their leaders, cousins Prince Turhan (Johnny Yong Bosch) and Princess Nida (Cerina Vincent)! Prince Turhan has seen the brutal future that befalls Baghdad, and the Crown Prince and Princess need the help of both the Dumanis and Butler families to find their descendants in the present so that they can form a 21st century version of the Prince’s team! The band is about to meet Marine Corps corporal Turhan Salaam (Adam Rodriguez), his sister, United Nations translator Nidia Salaam (Cerina Vincent in a dual role), champion wrestler and Turhan’s burly cousin Raseem Bin Muhammad (voiced by Michael Kopsa), his younger brother Sinbad Bin Muhammad (Brad Swaile), an expert fencer, shapeshifting martial artist and family friend Baz Siddig (Shawn Harrison), and his girlfriend, gypsy sorceress Fairuza Karim (Kari Wahlgren)! They join the genie Shazzan in forming the new Knights of Arabia, as they and the Impossibles join forces for the first time ever to bring down the Taliban and the military madman who wants to take over Iraq and merge it with nuclear power Iran, General Fariek Bakaar (voiced by Gregg Berger)! Plus, what is the mystery behind the relationship between the Butler and Salaam families, and what does it have to do with the genie Shazzan? That’s what the Impossibles have to find out in this episode!

    Episode 4-7: Mightor Returns
    by Kenny Eugene McCall

    The caveman superhero Mightor (Patrick Warburton) makes his appearance in this Impossibles episode where Dianna is with her father Arthur at the Port Domaine Museum of Natural History when they discover a mysterious imposing figure encased in ice. But, that’s no ordinary caveman inside, for when he is freed by Dianna, he is revealed to be Tor (Sam Vincent), Mightor’s alter ego, and a man lost in time! And when a futuristic time-traveler named Dr. Futuro (Anthony Stewart Head) starts causing trouble for Volcanica and her dad, it’s Mightor to the rescue as he and Volcanica must take him down! But, could Dr. Futuro have the key to sending the warrior caveman home? Find out in this episode!

    Episode 4-8: A Pyronite Love Story
    by Kenny Eugene McCall

    How’s this for a romantic interlude: Dianna Dumanis visits the Tennyson Plumbers’ Academy, where Max and the Max Force are training for a mission with Magister Bach (Space Ghost) when the beautiful Impossibles keyboardist finds herself being smitten by fellow Pyronite Alan Albright (Zeno Robinson), who finds her attractive! But, will Volcanica and Heatblast Junior’s budding romance be spoiled by the sudden return of Space Ghost foe Moltar (Keith David) and Volcanica’s opposite number, Frostbite (David Henrie), who are looking to claim the fiery Dianna for themselves! Now, Dianna, Alan, and even new Plumber recruit Ronald “Roughcut” Ruffin (Aaron Stanford), must find a way to bring down the two elemental villains before it’s too late! Plus, Selena Gomez, as Volcanica, joins Heatblast Jr. and Roughcut in a rendition of her new song, “Round and Round,” in this episode!

    Episode 4-9: When Tetrax Met Demetria
    by Kenny Eugene McCall

    Yo! The Impossibles begin a five-part story arc set in the music industry in Episode Eleven of this season. But first, another love connection is being witnessed when Petrosapien enforcer Tetrax Shard (Jim Cummings) pays a visit to Earth to meet Petrosapien Plumber’s Kid Ronnie Ruffin, only to find himself smitten with the beautiful veejay host of “24 Karat Hits,” Demetria Diamond, when he views her with her family on the show! And, when he makes an appearance on her show with Roughcut the next night, the three Petrosapiens find themselves dealing with an Incursion strike force led by Seven-Seven that is looking to kidnap Demi and take her back to their homeworld! Big mistake, jackass, because both Tetrax and Roughcut are about to get some serious help from both Springer and Ben Tennyson (in his Diamondhead form, voiced by Yuri Lowenthal), as the four heroes head for the Incursion homeworld to rescue the Diamond Dazzler! But, could Demi have something up her sleeve for the Incursion? Never mess with a pissed-off superpowered TV hostess, her nephew, and her 24-karat rescuers if your lives depended on it! Plus, what happens when Demi returns the favor when she visits him at Ronnie’s first concert? Will Tetrax and Demetria finally become a couple, and will the Impossibles get a new uncle in one of Cousin Ben’s toughest allies? Find out in this romantic and hilarious episode!

    Episode 4-10: Race for your life, Kevin Levin!
    By Kenny Eugene McCall

    Welcome race fans! It’s the second annual modern Wacky Races, and a bunch of new participants are joining the Wacky Racers, including Julie Lawrence’s brother, Jake Lawrence (Jake T. Austin), and his bike, Wheelie (Evan Sabara), off-road racer Mark Pershing (Scott Menville) and his dune buggy, Speed Buggy (John Moschitta), and DEO agent Brett Matthews (Daniel Green), the shapeshifting Turbo Teen! But, the real story is Osmosian Kevin Ethan Levin’s entry into the race, as the Ben 10 character gets involved in helping the Impossibles and Turbo Teen bring down the Dark Rider once and for all! But, will it be Agent Michaels that will be the one helping Kevin and the Impossibles, especially when it is Kevin himself who is targeted by the Dark Rider, and our rocker heroes get themselves caught up in a battle between two Galvanic Mechamorphs when Brett reveals that he and the Dark Rider are Plumber’s Kids who are twin brothers on opposite sides of the law in this episode that crosses over with Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, and doubles as a modern-day reboot of the Ruby-Spears 1984 series, Turbo Teen! Plus, Allegra Circe and the Sirens return as she looks to reunite with Donald Dumanis when the Dumanis and Circe families join other musical groups in stopping the return of the Maestro (Neil Patrick Harris), as he escapes the Null Void to take revenge on his ex-girlfriend, her family, and the music industry in a five-part Impossibles special event that doubles as Cartoon Network Studios’ first animated Impossibles movie starting next episode!

    Episode 4-11: An Impossible Musical Mystery tour, Part One
    By Kenny Eugene McCall

    Amanda Winchell (April Winchell) and Lorelei Circe (Joan Collins) make their return, but under different circumstances for Lorelei, as her daughter Allegra (Ashley Tisdale) returns into Donnie’s life and Mama Circe back into the lives of Debbi and Demi Domaine! But Amanda’s also here to see Cousin Arthur and the Impossibles! But, the Narrator is here on a different mission, for it concerns the return of the Maestro (Neil Patrick Harris) from his imprisonment in the Null Void by Allegra a while back, and the coming of an old nemesis of Lorelei’s named Jewelie Newstar (voiced by, you guessed it, Julie Newmar)! She’s a wicked singer, dancer, and actress who owns an eccentric talent agency looking to recruit new talent! Throw in appearances by the Hex Girls, Fly Girls, Sundance Kids, and even a rock band from the year 2080 called the Neptunes, and the Impossibles and the Sirens of Song find themselves in a strange Musical Mystery Tour where the two families must deal with Jewelie Newstar, and the Maestro’s escape from the Null Void in a five-part mini-series episode! Plus, what is the relationship between Ms. Newstar and the Maestro? Could it be that the Maestro and Jewelie are mother and son? And, what’s up with her strange hypnotic powers? Find out in Part One of this special event!

    Episode 4-12: An Impossible Musical Mystery tour, Part Two
    By Kenny Eugene McCall

    Whoa Mama, the Maestro finally escapes the Null Void, thanks to his aunt, Jewelie Newstar, revealed last episode! But, there’s also a bigger surprise waiting for both the Impossibles and the Sirens of Song as Jewelie is revealed to be a female Crystalsapien hybrid (Chromastone’s race)! And, her first target was the Petrosapien Plumber’s Kid Roughcut (Aaron Stanford)! But, the sudden arrival of the Diamond Dazzler and the Dumanis Sisters Dianna and Deanna helped Ronnie put an end to Jewelie’s shenanigans! But Ms. Newstar has another ace up her sleeve, as she dispatches the Maestro to Sherwood Fortress Mansion to retrieve the up-and-coming singer and archer Robyn Hood (Victoria Justice)! Now, Multiplex and Allegra must head for Robyn’s home to get her away from the Maestro before he takes control of the beautiful teenage Merry Maiden in Part Two! And, the Impossibles head for Crystal Cove to assist Daphne Blake (Grey DeLisle) in protecting the Hex Girls from Newstar’s recruitment drive, while the Sirens help Vincent and Vanessa Horne with the Fly Girls in Big City next episode

    Episode 4-13: An Impossible Musical Mystery tour, Part Three
    By Kenny Eugene McCall

    Robyn Hood and Multiplex join up with the Impossibles in Crystal Cove, as they, Daphne (as Crush) and the Hex Girls find themselves under assault from the robot construct Video Jack, as Jewelie’s plan to recruit the Gothic girl group goes into effect! And in Big City, Allegra and the Sirens join up with the Vulture Twins, Blue Falcon and Scarlet Dove in assisting Silken Spider (Jennifer Hale) and the Fly Girls in fighting off the Maestro and Iron Lazarus (Clancy Brown)! But, everyone’s about to witness Kelly Webster’s transformation from human to Arachnichimp (Spidermonkey’s race), as she is revealed to be a Plumber’s Daughter! But, could there be another Plumber’s Kid being discovered when Kelly’s friend, Jacqueline “Dragon Fly” Kirby (Andrea Baker), finds herself transforming into a Lepidopterran (Stinkfly’s race)? And, will the Fly Girls be the next ones entering Tennyson Academy next season? Find out in Part Three! Also, the Department of Extranormal Operations is under attack, as the Defendroids take on Director Bones and Agent Delilah Blake, as they prevent the mad promoter Jewelie Newstar from taking Butch Cassidy (Zac Efron) and the Sundance Kids, and the Narrator visits the Merlin Brothers Magic Academy to consult with Alma Rumblebuns (Diane Delano) about her own connection to Jewelie from thirty years ago, all in Part Four, next episode!

    Episode 4-14: An Impossible Musical Mystery tour, Part Four
    By Kenny Eugene McCall

    Oh Buddy! The DC Comics superteam Helix makes their very first appearance in this Cartoon Network Studios series, as they help their leader, Director Bones, Delilah Blake, and the Impossibles take down Video Jack, Iron Lazarus, and the Defendroids before they can take Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kids to Jewelie Newstar for recruitment into her talent agency! Meanwhile, the Narrator and the Siren finally arrive at the Merlin Brothers Magic Academy to meet an old friend, the mansion’s owner, Ms. Alma Rumblebuns (Diane Delano)! She’s about to marry her forlorn love, vegetarian ice cream entrepreneur Calvin Curdles! But first, Alma tells Lorelei about Jewelie’s wicked Chromastone-like powers, and the incident some thirty years ago that almost killed Alma! Could the Impossibles and the Sirens be facing what could be the first Petropian female to come to Earth before the events that inspired the Ben 10 franchise, including this Impossibles series? And, could all the attacks on the bands be part of a plan by Ms. Newstar to take control of both the Impossibles and the Sirens of Song and turn them against their mothers, Deborah Dumanis and Lorelei Circe? Not if Ben Tennyson and Space Ghost lead a strike force of all the bands to take down the Maestro and Newstar, and save both families from their control before it’s too late in the conclusion of this five-part movie episode!

    Episode 4-15: An Impossible Musical Mystery tour, Conclusion
    By Kenny Eugene McCall

    Jewelie Newstar’s past on Earth has been revealed by Alma Rumblebuns last episode, as the Sundance Kids made it out of DEO headquarters alive at the expense of the male Impossibles, who were caught and put under Jewelie’s control! And, the Sirens of Song were finally put back under the Maestro’s control! Now with Jewelie Newstar and the Maestro launching an all-out attack on both the bands’ mothers, the female Impossibles and Demi Diamond now have no choice but to seek the help of the one person who could help stop them – Ben Tennyson and the Max Force! And, the Narrator calls the bands to the Merlin Brothers Academy, as Space Ghost and the DEO arrive to prepare everyone for the assault on Jewelie’s massive airship! It’s a battle on the ground, in the air, and in outer space, as Jewelie and the Maestro finally get what’s coming to them, and the Impossibles and the Sirens are rescued by their friends in the final battle of the movie! Plus, Kelly and the Fly Girls decide to join the Tennyson Academy, just as Tabitha “Tiger Moth” Mothersbaugh becomes the last member of the insect-themed girl group to be revealed as a Plumber’s Daughter, as she attains the form of a Necrofriggian (Big Chill’s race) hybrid! And, the Impossibles find themselves taking a trip to the year 2080 to meet Donald and Allegra’s grandson, Bartholomew “Biff” Dumanis, his band, the Aquatones, and a superpowered humanoid killer shark/musician named Jabberjaw (Dee Bradley Baker)! But, is this Jabberjaw a Plumber’s Kid related to one of the other Sirens? That’s what Allegra and Multiplex want to find out in this fourth-season finale next episode!

    Episode 4-16: And Now… Jabberjaw! (Season Finale)
    By Kenny Eugene McCall


    Jewelie Newstar and the Maestro were finally imprisoned back in the Null Void, thanks to the Diamond Dazzler and Ben Tennyson as both Diamondhead and Chromastone, as Jewelie was weakened by a combined attack from Demetria and Ben, who drained the sleazy Petropian talent agent of her Petrosapien and Crystalsapien abilities in the process! But the Maestro didn’t fare too well, as he faced nine angry women and two pissed off Plumbers in Max Tennyson and Thaddeus Bach! Lucky for him, he was more than glad to return to the Null Void to get away from his ex-girlfriend, her mother and her sisters! Now with everything back to normal and the bands meeting with the DEO, Lorelei Circe decides to retire from crime to help her daughters get back into the music business. Demi decides to restart her record company with her sister Debbi, especially when Ben Tennyson decides to rename the label Diamondhead Records and put his alien hero form on the label!
    Fast forward 65 years later, as we introduce you to music historian and research scientist Dr. Donald Dumanis (Lee Majors) and his wife of 60 years, voice director and teacher Allegra Dumanis (Lindsay Wagner) in a story involving their great-grandchildren, a musician and marine biology student named Bartholomew “Biff” Dumanis (Ryan Kelley), and his sister, champion swimmer and singer Brunnhilda “Bubbles” Dumanis (Alyssa Diaz), as they discover a superpowered humanoid shark being imprisoned in a high-tech military facility in New Metropolis Bay! But, there’s something special about this 15-foot man-shark known as Jabberjaw (Dee Bradley Baker), for he is none other than their cousin, Justin Kirby (the product of a union between some members of the Circe and Kirby families)! Now Biff and Bubbles, along with their friends Clifford “Clamhead” Jones (Will Friedle) and Shelley Rogers (Ashley Eckstein), must find a way to break Jabberjaw out of the LexCorp International facility without attracting the attention of the ruthless Lila Luthor (Emma Samms) and her security forces! And, even if the group, now called the Aquatones, gets Justin out alive, Shelley and Clamhead are about to meet Biff and Bubbles’ great grandparents, Donald and Allegra, as they tell the story of the band’s ancestors, the Impossibles, the Sirens of Song, and Mystery Incorporated, as the original Six Million Dollar Man and Bionic Woman lend their voices in this special one-hour season finale!

    Note: Jewelie Newstar was a character that appeared in the NBC-TV series "Space Stars" as a jewel thief. In this series, she is a manipulativ talent agent who is also the Maestro's aunt.

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  3. hobbyfan

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    1. I'm not even sure Malachi Throne (formerly of It Takes a Thief & Lancelot Link) is still with us. One of us will have to check.

    2. Why change the voice actor for Jabberjaw? Frank Welker is still around. He's the one who gave Jabber his Curly Howard-esque voice.

    3. With the way you've got the show formatted, Ken, forget about a 30 minute show. At its core, it should be an hour to allow for plot development, continuity, et al, things that didn't exist in cartoons back in the day. That would make the season finale a 2-hour movie.
     
  4. Kenny E. McCall

    Kenny E. McCall We fight like cats!

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    This version of the Impossibles is meant to be a one hour cartoon show, similar to what Justice League was supposed to be. Remember, the original episodes were seven minutes long!

    With Welker doing Scooby-Doo, Fred and other characters in the series, I thought that Dee Bradley Baker would help out a bit, plus, the Jabberjaw timeline of this series lends itself to the Batman/Superman Beyond principle, meaning that the future that the Aquatones (Neptunes) exist in is a lot darker than what it was in the 1976 animated comedy series, hence the appearance of a female Luthor running LexCorp.

    Malachi Throne should be still living. He was in the Green Lantern: First Flight movie as one of the Guardians

    Kenny :cool:
     
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    Malachi Throne is definitely still alive. His official website is here.

    I've read through your updates on HB characters and appreciate them. I think however making hour long cartoons (on a weekly basis) won't fly - cost prohibative and time consuming. It's be better to keep them at a 30 minute lengths and perhaps just make each ep a continuous chapter of the previous one (like Mystery Incorporated is for the Scooby franchise).

    [constructive criticism]

    I also find it odd how you choose to mix the Impossibles (among other HB/Warner properties) within the universe of Ben10 or how many updates are decendants to the original heroes. Why not have the original heroes - just updated rather than going so far down the family tree? Better to distance the show from Ben 10 or other current CN shows. It needs to be able to stand on its own.


    I liked your Impossibles idea the most - I think they are one of the better properties that could be expanded upon and be made relevant for a current series. I do think there are too many siblings in the family (one set of fraternal twins would be enough) and I think the character of Botanica is a bit of overkill. I'm also not crazy about the Wacky Races redux either. That show was for a different era - today it's all about the reality shows being spoofed and Total Drama Island/Action/World Tour right now has cornered the market there. Forget the Jonas Bros. doing the voices/singing. They're a fading property. By the time the series got off the ground they'd be irrelevant. I'd imagine any music would be better off done by an anonymous stable of singers, but using the best available songwriters/bands on the Warner label (or perhaps rework Hoyt Curtain's music from the original Impossibles show). Also, WAY too many crossovers! It's more important to stick with your individual sphere of characters and premise (many of your ep summaries sound like backdoor pilots and that can become grating for regular viewers who want to see their heroes in action). Otherwise I think you're on the right track.

    [/constructive criticism]

    I'm curious if you have an agent Kenny - as most studios (for live action or animated shows) won't look at any scripts they get without one. They'll only dump unsolicited stuff in the trash no matter how good it is. An agent can also help you secure a chance to pitch your ideas to the suits that can make your ideas happen.. Also, five seasons is a bit too long for a cartoon series. Most studios stop franchises within 62 episodes. As 100 eps of a live action show are considered the number to aim for when in production (for syndication purposes), animated franchises usually max out at 62 - so at most you'd have 2-3 seasons. I do think that when you plan out the series to make sure there is relevance to the entire show. Make sure there is a beginning, middle and definitive ending when the show ends its run. Of course that doesn't mean there won't be interference from the suits throughout the process, for the better or for the detriment of the show. How much control you'll have over it will also vary.
     
  6. Kenny E. McCall

    Kenny E. McCall We fight like cats!

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    I appreciate your criticism, magicdog. Half-hour formats do work best. But, to flesh out stories, some cartoons need to go an hour in length, or split into two parts. Sometimes that is the nature of fanfics, character names and storylines can be overkill, but that's why networks like Cartoon Network could not handle a straight hour-long cartoon series! It's beyond their feeble little minds to do so.
     
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    Last point first. Throne must've been lured out of retirement for First Flight, as he hasn't done anything of note in years. Definitely have to get the DVD, and if they go to series with GL, if Chris Meloni (Law & Order: SVU) did a good enough job as Hal Jordan, he should be considered for a return run.

    If you're going to use a different actor for Jabberjaw, I recommend totally rebooting the character, so that Jab isn't a hybrid of Rodney Dangerfield & Curly Howard.
     
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    Ken, I have to agree with magicdog about hiring a literary agent to help sell your pitches to WB. If I could do half the stuff you've conjured in recent weeks, I'd be looking for one, too.
     
  9. Kenny E. McCall

    Kenny E. McCall We fight like cats!

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    That we all agree with, Hobbyfan.

    About Jabberjaw, this version of the comedic character is a reboot, Jabberjaw is of a new race of marine-like beings from the Andromeda Galaxy that arrived on Earth in 2020. Jabberjaw's father was a Plumber who married Melody Circe's granddaughter, hence this Jabberjaw is a Plumber's Kid, and the cousin of Biff and Bubbles.

    In addition to Jabberjaw's musical abilities, this Aquavelvan (the name of Jabberjaw's race - take that, McDuffie and Man of Action!) is a fierce swimmer and fighter, with the ability to communicate with other marinelife, powerful jaws, aqua and cryokinetic abilities similar to those of Bivalvan/Water Hazard and Arctiguana, and superhuman strength in and out of water.

    Kenny :cool:
     
  10. hobbyfan

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    Time to get back in control......

    A while back, I'd put together a speculative plotline that would have Scooby-Doo & Mystery Inc. meet the Super Friends (minus the Wonder Twins). Well, here's another goodie for you.

    This idea pairs up two similarly skilled heroes, with very dissimilar partners, as Blue Falcon & Dynomutt meet Batman & Robin for the first time.

    The setting: Gotham City, circa 1977 (1 year after "Dynomutt"'s debut).

    Radley Crown, alias the Blue Falcon, ventures into Gotham City as the guest of the governor (which suggests that Big City & Gotham are in the same state). Dynomutt remains confined to Crown's rented limo, for obvious reasons. Crown meets Gotham's most famous millionaire, Bruce Wayne. Dick Grayson (Robin) is in college, but will turn up ere long.

    The guest of honor is an American ambassador to the United Arab Emirates. As he speaks, the lights go out, and when they come on again, the ambassador is gone. Crown & Wayne go their separate ways, and, as Blue Falcon & Batman, their paths cross again at the hotel where the ambassador was staying. BF admits to being inspired by the Caped Crusader, while Dynomutt falls over himself trying to introduce himself, excited to meet his idol.

    The next day, a small-time terror organization issues ransom demands for the return of the ambassador. Robin joins the investigation as Dick Grayson has arrived in Gotham on holiday break.

    This is but part one. More to come, and given the setting, could there be more heroes involved?
     
  11. Kenny E. McCall

    Kenny E. McCall We fight like cats!

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    The Bat and the Falcon - what a concept! I wonder if Ace the Bat-Hound would make an appearance with Robin.

    I see Kevin Conroy and Gary Owens voicing the two heroes in this team up.
     
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    Well, gee..........y'think? :D :D :D :D

    Part 2 is coming later tonight.
     
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    Part 2 of "The Bat & the Falcon":

    Blue Falcon & Dynomutt have arrived in Gotham City. Robin has returned from New Carthage (Hudson University) at the same time to join Batman. Commissioner Gordon and CBI agent King Faraday brief the 4 heroes on the abduction of the ambassador. Faraday reveals that CBI intel believes that the ambassador might've gotten mixed up with a covert terror cell in the Dubai, and that they sent someone to silence the ambassador upon his return to the US.

    Batman & Blue Falcon, as Bruce Wayne & Radley Crown, respectively, travel to Dubai, ostensibly to take in a major horse race (remember, Wayne does own some horses, per the live-action series), but at the same time, as Batman has entrusted Falcon with his dual ID (and vice versa), the Caped Crusader is giving Blue Falcon a major tutorial on detective work. Often distracted by Dynomutt's antics, Falcon has had trouble closing the easiest cases.

    Back in Gotham, Robin is left to care for Dynomutt, and Alfred sends Ace, the Bat-Hound over to help. Robin and the dogs head for New York, getting a tip from Faraday that the ambassador and his captors may be there. Indeed, there is an attack at the United Nations, and the terrorists, calling themselves the Dubai Death Dynasty, threaten to execute the ambassador right then and there. Robin, Ace, & Dynomutt defeat the DDD, only to discover that the "ambassador" is a mannequin, a decoy. Ace takes a bullet meant for Robin while Dyno, without any malfunctions for once, tags the assassin.

    Ace is taken to a veterinary hospital. Robin is contacted by Faraday. They've found the ambassador----dead.

    In Dubai, Batman & Blue Falcon defeat the leaders of the DDD with uncanny ease, and learn of what happened in New York. Returning to the States, the Dark Knight determines that the DDD's leaders are there, and learns of the ambassador's "death". He & Robin have reached the same conclusion, and that the ambassador may actually be in league with the DDD after all, but for what purpose?

    As the two teams reunite, and Batman learns of Ace's injuries, a plan is formulated to capture the DDD's leaders. Dynomutt suggests recruiting his pal, Scooby-Doo, to stand in for Ace. Robin nixes that idea, believing that Dyno still isn't taking this too seriously. Batman agrees, and, with Ace patched up and almost entirely cleared to go back in the field, decides to stick with Ace. Robin, though, has a back-up plan, and makes a call........

    To be continued......
     
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    Part 3 of "The Bat & the Falcon":

    The Dubai Liberation Front holds court at the United Nations, claiming responsibility for the death of the American ambassador to the United Arab Emirates. It is the same rhetoric we hear from fanatics all the time, so let's just cut right to the chase. The DLF has promised to execute American ambassadors in other Arab countries unless the US backs off on its involvement in conflicts in the Middle East.

    Abruptly, there is a commotion as a common street merchant enters the hall, claiming to need to speak to the General Assembly. He makes his way up toward the podium, but is stopped by security. Two DLF gunmen train their weapons on the intruder, but are quickly taken out by Batman & Blue Falcon. The heroes enter the assembly hall, accompanied by Ace & Dynomutt. Ace can only do so much because of an injured leg, but Dyno nearly blows the mission when he is knocked into the Batman by one of the escaping terrorists. The merchant is really Robin, working undercover, and he surprises the DLF leader overpowering him very quickly. The terrorists surrender.

    As Batman had surmised, the DLF leader is in fact the ambassador, who turned his back on the US because, being a native of Dubai, he felt loyal to his native land, rather than his adopted country, and hated to see the Arab nations "bullied" by the Americans.

    As for that call Robin made at the end of part 2, it was to King Faraday, arranging the trap that was sprung on the duplicitous ambassador.

    Three months later, Radley Crown returns to Gotham to visit Bruce Wayne to discuss future business arrangements. Where that leads will be told another time.

    The end.
     
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    As any ardent Super Friends fan knows, Wendy & Marvin were written out of the comics in issue 9, returning in issue 26 for a 1-shot return, and then, were never heard from again until the Wonder Twins cybercomic from Cartoon Network 11 years ago. I've already developed a storyline that would have Marvin & Jayna getting married, but, sticking with the late 70's for a setting, I've got plans for a story arc here that would make CN's "Fusion Fall" look like a schoolyard dance by comparison in terms of plotting. Since Kenny was incorporating as many characters as he could find for his reboot of the Impossibles, and doing a fantastic job, too, consider what I have in mind. Not only would it appear to be a sequel to the SF/Scooby-Doo piece I did a while back, but it would also add some of H-B's super adventure heroes of the 60's. You'll see as we go along. I'll get the ball rolling in a couple of days.

    Kenny, feel free to help.
     
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    Well, it's been awhile since anyone's been here!

    I wound up having an idea for a reboot involving an old HB property that could work in a modern setting: The Chan Clan.

    I'd brought up bringing back the show before but it could involve getting the rights to Charlie Chan (the Earl D. Biggers estate) or the music. My version could eliminate the need for either. Plus I'd want to keep some of the elements that could still work like the kids very distinct personalities and their ability to work together.


    First, do away with the family band aspect (it could be completely nonexistent or explain something in passing such as, the band didn't catch on, or the kids wanted to go back to a regular routine rather than touring).

    Next - Charlie Chan. In the HB series, he was presumably a police detective but since he did so many jobs around the world in different locales, he was more likely a private detective/security consultant. This version would have him dead (old age!) and the kids on their own.

    For starters, eldest son Henry Chan (age approx 25) is in the military (I imagine US Army but could be any branch) when he gets the news of his father dying. He gets emergency leave to say his goodbyes and see/comfort his siblings. He arrives just as Charlie Chan dies (He doesn't even have to be referred to as the Charlie Chan of Bigger's novels, after all there are plenty of "Mr. Chans" in the world right?). Although Charlie would have left life insurance, etc. for the family (the original TV series let me think Mom died years earlier so I'm going with that as still canon) some of it probably went to bills, etc. and it would be a matter of time before they're going to need a regular income again. Henry seriously thinks about leaving the military for a civilian life to help raise and support the family. He considers taking over the family's detective business (which fell by the wayside after his father's illness) along with his elder siblings. Eventually all the kids have a part in helping with the investigations, but unlike the original series, they'd be more relevant rather than a series of non sequiters.

    You'd still have Stanley Chan (2nd born son age approx. 23): In the original show he was into wacky disguises and often partnered with Henry to go clue hunting. I'd alter his character to be a theatre major in college (or perhaps an aspiring actor in community theatre and be able to become a master of disguise with his expertise in costumes and makeup. His disguises help him do some spying/surveillance work.

    Suzie Chan (3rd born child/eldest daughter approx 19-21): In the original she'd been compared with Daphne from SDWAY as the pretty teen girl (without the clumsiness) who seemed to get along with everyone and was a de facto mom for the family. I can see her still doing that - but she's be a touch older maybe 19 or so - a college student.

    Alan Chan (4th born child age approx 17-20): In the original he was the flamboyant tech wiz who was a quasi inventor. He apparently outfitted the Chan Van with those various "disguises" so the van couldn't be followed or be able to follow a subject without drawing too much attention. I'd probably make him akin to "Q" from James Bond on a smaller scale. Someone who develops gadgets and maybe can altet he Chan Van but in a Transformers sort of way. (At the very least be able to change license plates, ejector seats stuff like that).

    Anne Chan (fifth born child age approx 16-17): The tomboy of the family she'll keep that aspect of her personality and perhaps is on a sports team in HS. I'd ease the budding feminism of her early character (which was only thrown in due to the feminist movement at the time of the original series) and make her tough but still trying to get the romantic attention of boys while constantly competing against them (and beating them - which leads to a lot of bruised egos!).

    Tom Chan (sixth born child age approx 15-16): In the original he was portrayed as an intellectual genius; always speaking in big words and knowledgeable as a set of encyclopedias. I had considered merging him and Alan into one, but I think there is room for two geniuses in the family - albeit in different ways (I'd always inagined Tom to be the kind of guy who grew up to be either a college professor or scientist). Perhaps he'd collaberate with Alan on tech wizardry and gear.

    Flip Chan (seventh born child age approx 14): He was the kid brother who watched a lot of TV cop shows and detective movies (think, "The Maltese Falcon"). He wanted to emulate them and it's likely he emulated his father's investigative work. I always thought he'd have grown up to be a police officer - perhaps eventually a ranking detective. We could still have him as the detective buff who is still into cops and robbers. I'd also prefer to give him a proper name from which "Flip" is derived: "Phillip Chan".

    Nancy Chan (eighth born child age approx 12-13): In the original show she was the pudgy, clumsy sister. I can still see her a such in the form of a middle schooler where both can be tough going for a budding young girl. She's the typical late bloomer.

    Mimi Chan (ninth born child Age approx 10): In the original she was the bossy 7 year old sister (bossy only to her baby brother, Scooter). I'd age her up a bit to 4th or 5th grade. I'd also give her a proper name from which Mimi is derived (if Mimi wasn't already wasn't such): "Miriam Chan".

    Scooter Chan (tenth born child): In the original show he was an overpowered 6 year old. I'd have him aged up to 8 or 9. He looked up to his brother, Flip, and I'd still keep that going. I'd also give his proper name as "Samuel Chan" and Scooter being the nickname the family came up with in his early childhood.

    Chu-Chu the dog: Optional. There isn't too much we can do with him except as team pet but I think we could get along without him.


    Thoughts??
     
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    Any reboot of Chan Clan would require the approval of the Biggers estate, since Charlie Chan is an essential figure in the series.


    Agreed. The band aspect was overkill, IMPO, unnecessary, but the trends at the time included copying Scooby-Doo and using bubblegum pop. I believe this was one of the last shows where Don Kirschner was a music supervisor.

    Charlie was based in Hawaii in the books, and, with his world traveling, would be considered a consulting detective similar to Sherlock Holmes. I would reboot the series, moving the original books forward to the present day, so that Charlie is still around with the kids.

    Chu-Chu was an add-on as well because of trends, so he goes off the board. Let's try to establish a time frame.

    The original series aired in 1972. Let's assume Henry was 17, Stanley 16, and Susie 15. Adding 8 years, that would put Henry at 25 as you suggest, but Stanley is 24, and Susie 23. You go from there. Let's assume that Charlie would've been in his 40's or pushing 50 during the series. In the new show, he'd be closer to 60 and nearing retirement, but is killed on one final case, and it's up to the kids to find his killer and finish his last case.
     
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    It came to my attention a while back that the Hero High half of 1981's Kid Super Power Hour w/Shazam!, Filmation's next-to-last entry for NBC (Sport Billy was the last one), was not meant to have original characters at all, but rather, the return of the Archies, 3 years after the last series had ended. The idea, then, would've been to bring the gang's superhero personas from the campy 60's comics (Pureheart, Super Teen, Evilheart, Capt. Hero) to television.

    The Superteens, as they would later be known in a Archie miniseries in the 90's, would've been Filmation's answer, then, to the Super Friends franchise over on ABC. Unfortunately, the licensing agreement between Archie Comics & Filmation must've expired, leading to the development of a new set of characters.

    Now, the question I put before you is this. Since Classic Media now owns the rights to both the Archies and Hero High, what about having them meet?

    BTW, I promise I'll get to work on that Scooby-Doo/Super Friends plot one of these fine days........
     
  19. Kenny E. McCall

    Kenny E. McCall We fight like cats!

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    How about the Archies (and Sabrina the Teenage Witch) going to Hero High as exchange students from Riverdale High to help the students deal with a rogue witch who escapes the Other Realm and land at Hero High and turns the hero students against the Archies, only for Sabrina to save the day by defeating her.

    And, Sabrina would be wearing that red and magenta superhero costume she wore in the classic comics

    Now Hero High/Josie and the Pussycats is another story altogether.

    Kenny :D
     
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    Last thought first. Having Josie visit Hero High would require Classic Media acquiring a license for Josie, since the rights to her animated likeness remain with WB.

    Secondly, I barely remember Sabrina in a red & magenta costume. Anyone got a pic?

    Finally, as I noted before, the original plan for Hero High was to be an outlet for the United Three (Archie as Pureheart, Betty as Superteen, & Jughead as Capt. Hero). Veronica eventually became a anti-heroine as Ms. Vanity in a short-lived miniseries that a friend of mine worked on a few years ago for Archie. Filmation had moved Archie to NBC in '77, and it bombed, so I think the Peacock suits didn't want to take another chance, especially since Filmation had ended their association with Archie.

    Now, Ken, how about commenting on "The Bat & the Falcon"?
     

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