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MGM Cartoons version differences discussion

Discussion in 'Back To The Inkwell - Classic Cartoons Discussion' started by Cool_Cat, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. Daffyrocks

    Daffyrocks Woo-hoo-hooo!

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    No idea :/
     
  2. NewBogus :)

    NewBogus :) Plastic Duck Saves the World

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    In Polish from Old Rockin' Chair Tom:
    "Tom, jeśli ty twierdzisz że umiesz łapać myszy, to ja potrafię tańczyć w balecie. A wszyscy wiedzą że nie potrafię" (TV Dubbing)
    "Tom, jeśli ty umiesz łapać myszy, to ja jestem mistrzynią stepowania. A nie jestem." (VHS dubbing)
    Voiced by the same actress: Teresa Lipowska.
     
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  3. Daffyrocks

    Daffyrocks Woo-hoo-hooo!

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    Interesting why would the Polish dub ommit the Laura Turner name. The Romanian dubbing included the name with no problem. :p
     
  4. NewBogus :)

    NewBogus :) Plastic Duck Saves the World

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    [​IMG]

    Not mine, but according to some websites, Little Rural Riding Hood, 1949 released as a special feature of Battleground on Blu-Ray was sourced from the old 1950's damaged print.
     
  5. Daffyrocks

    Daffyrocks Woo-hoo-hooo!

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    So it means this damaged print has the original titles? :)
     
  6. NewBogus :)

    NewBogus :) Plastic Duck Saves the World

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    It is reissued
     
  7. A-Cecil

    A-Cecil Member

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    Is this print badly restored (restored with very dark colors like the Golden Collection Vol 2 Blu-Ray restoration of the Tom and Jerry cartoon 'Heavenly Puss') or its one of those older transfers from before the 1980s? Because the Laserdisc and Turner prints of the cartoon have more vibrant colors.

    Anyway despite that its is a damaged 1950s reissued print, it looks to me like a 1960s Metrocolor print.
     
  8. NewBogus :)

    NewBogus :) Plastic Duck Saves the World

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    As I've already mentioned, this short was released with its reissue print:
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  9. A-Cecil

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    According to this link here http://www.ekaruztechnology.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=64810 "Little Rural Riding Hood" presented as a bonus feature on Battleground (1949) Blu-Ray release is in HD (720p resolution), much like the main feature itself and its theatrical trailer, unlike most classic MGM/Looney Tunes cartoons which are presented in SD as Blu-Ray bonus features.

    Since there's only ONE transfer of MGM cartoons that is available in HD (Turner, Laserdisc and Oldest prints exist only in SD) which is the restored transfer, hence actually "Little Rural Riding Hood" has been restored and remastered for this Blu-Ray release (albeit badly restored in a horrible, non-pristine condition with very dark colors like the Golden Collection Vol 2 Blu-Ray restoration of the Tom and Jerry cartoon 'Heavenly Puss' since the cartoon's original negatives are destroyed in the 1967 MGM Vault fire).
     
  10. MTGM

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    A bit of a reminder that Boomerang once aired an ABHORRENTLY DVNR'd version of Papa Gets the Bird (1940):
    Bird 1.png Bird 2.png Bird 3.png Bird 4.png
     
  11. A-Cecil

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    Similarly the Droopy DVD release "Droopy: The Complete Theatrical Collection" used Turner prints containing DVNR, according to this link here: https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=&url=http://www.cartoonbrew.com/classic/droopy-on-dvd-uncut-and-dvnrd-3285.html&psig=AFQjCNEY-8VhgTZSwObLX7ce8Cv0byN5cQ&ust=1491021443860904

    "Daredevil Droopy" and "Droopy's Good Deed" have uncut Turner prints in the vaults, even though these uncut Turner versions hardly showed up on the airwaves. These uncut versions are used on this DVD.

    Back to MGM cartoons DVNR disasters, the DVNR is applied on these Turner prints when the transfers were first created in 1995. Very often, the young audience which Cartoon Network/Boomerang targets the cartoons at (children ages 7-12 years) couldn't notice the DVNR in these affected shorts.

    Unrelated but similar: The 1995 dubbed versions of pre-1948 Looney Tunes shorts also contain DVNR, too. For example, in this screenshot from the dubbed version of "Buccaneer Bunny" had the DVNR eaten away part of Bugs' ears.
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  12. MTGM

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    Boomerang currently shows an a.a.p print (without the a.a.p logo), so I wouldn't notice it.
     
  13. A-Cecil

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    @MTGM that screenshot I took is from a rare copy of the USA dubbed print that is seen on Cartoon Network Latin America (though unlike CN/Boomerang USA, CN Latin America airs it censored by having all scenes of Yosemite Sam pointing a gun on his head cut).

    The EU dubbed print of the cartoon would have the same DVNR problem too, since both the USA and EU prints of "Buccaneer Bunny" look the same (except for the slight differences in the 1947-1948 LT dubbed ending card).
     
  14. MTGM

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    So this copy of Puss 'n Boats is DVNR'd? image.jpeg
     
  15. MTGM

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    Does anyone have any background info on these Tom and Jerry prints that Boomerang keeps using in their promos?
    image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg
    Are they the 1960s reissue prints or are they just the pre-1995 'technicolor' transfers?
     
  16. Kevin Mo

    Kevin Mo @Bugssponge

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    those look like 1960 eastmancolor prints, the 1995 dubbed prints are much better quality than those. MGM cartoons do have dubbed versions, however they don't have the disclaimer plus they keep their original cards. Some of the dubbed versions have no borders at the end titles.
     
  17. Kevin Mo

    Kevin Mo @Bugssponge

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    I do not think that print is DNVR, unless it was restored on the golden collection. The GC version is DNVR.

    It could be though since Tom's leg is kind of erased.
     
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  18. A-Cecil

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    These faded prints of "Pet Peeve", "The Bodyguard", "Dr Jekyll and Mr Mouse", "Mouse For Sale", "Tom's Photo Finish" and "Kitty Foiled" are used in this Boomerang USA Tom and Jerry promo, even though the channel DOES NOT EVEN AIR THESE PRINTS AT ALL! (Note: Boomerang USA airs the Tom and Jerry shorts as Turner prints, except for "Cat Napping" which is aired as the Laserdisc print). Looks like false advertising to me.

    @Kevin Mo those faded prints above look more like 1960s Metrocolor prints to me. Note that Eastmancolor prints have a bad red tint, while Metrocolor prints have dark, faded and washed-out colors.
     
  19. Cool_Cat

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    @MTGM They're the red card CBS ones.
     
  20. MTGM

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    It makes me wonder if they just used the first file they looked up because all the other clips in that promo are Turner prints with the exception of "Puss Gets the Boot" (which they don't even show on the network).
     

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