MGM Cartoons version differences discussion

Discussion in 'Back To The Inkwell - Classic Cartoons Discussion' started by Cool_Cat, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. Charly9631

    Charly9631 Think! Think! Think!

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    Bad end title card cropping in the Pan & scan Turner Print of The Vanishing Duck (NTSC version). IMG_20171107_182837.jpg IMG_20171107_182828.jpg
     
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    Wait, "the An MGM Tom and Jerry Cartoon" end card actually changed and got smaller when MGM still used the red background logo?!!!

    But if I think more about it, I think that the MGM logo seen there was just spliced on the still-reissued version of the cartoon. I may be wrong. but you can see the MGM title card being of a little different quality than all the other screenshots.

    This is just an assumption.
     
  4. Charly9631

    Charly9631 Think! Think! Think!

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    And it looks so Eastman print to me. The color looks so horrible.
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    I guess they were too lazy to crop that end screen, since they're usually bigger with that red MGM logo. IMG_20171114_102943.jpg IMG_20171114_102834.jpg IMG_20171114_102842.jpg IMG_20171114_102852.jpg IMG_20171114_102859.jpg IMG_20171114_102912.jpg
     
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  5. MTGM

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    Here are some screenshots of the remastered cartoons that air on Boomerang. For some strange reason, most of these cartoons seem to be rendered in a 16:9 video format because there is a large black letterbox throughout.
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    NewBogus :) Plastic Duck Saves the World

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    So it seems that That's My Pup and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Mouse are airing restored on Boomerang US. Better than nothing, so they can finally test the restored prints in TV.
     
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    Here are some more screenshots. I'll compile a full list of the shorts currently airing in their remastered format at a later time.
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  8. Charly9631

    Charly9631 Think! Think! Think!

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    I don't know why did they cut one part in the end of the episode "Mouse Cleaning" with Thea Vidale dub, but remain the same "Thomas!!!" scream from Lilian Randolph.
     
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    For Mouse Cleaning the Thea Vidale dub is done after the cuts are made. I guess that Cartoon Network was lazy to redub that one line "Thomas!!!" at the end, as well as Mammy's grunts at 0:32 and at 6:32-6:37.
    http://www.peteava.ro/id-776229-tom-jerry-038-mouse-cleaning-1948-12-11
     
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    So I see that The Two Mouse-keeters with its restored print from WBHAAC DVD release is only airing in Full Screen on Boomerang USA.
    At least you have better than Boomerang CEE, where 1995 prints of T&J shorts are still aired.
     
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    Sorry, but what's the point of cropping the Cinemascope shorts, when they're in the original remastered form?? Please tell me!! :D

    If I do see "Tom and Cherie" kept in widescreen, then I guess there's no point of wasting the effort for this. Unless they accidentally forgot to do this thing on "Tom and Cherie" as well...
     
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    You guys in Europe, feel lucky if you have the unrestored versions. It's very likely they'll use the UK versions like they did with Boomerang France.

    As for Mouse Cleaning, I have a feeling Thea Vidale initially redubbed the whole short and then when they made the cut they switched to the original track for some reason. There may be a PAL copy with the redub but who knows...

    By the way, if you guys are interested I have ALL the UK tapes from the 80s. I still have to digitize the one which includes Quiet Please because I accidentally slipped when holding it and it broke. The tape inside is still intact (it was a new copy) so I'll just have to take it to repair.
     
  13. MTGM

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    In all honesty I would have preferred that they kept using the older material for U.S. broadcasts, but at least most of it is available on the Spotlight Collections. The only stuff I'm really missing out on are the Gene Deitch prints (which they stopped airing completely) and any of the laserdisc prints that were airing ('Cat Napping' is still a laserdisc print, luckily).
     
  14. StickerBoy

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    @Cool_Cat We'd be pretty lucky if this is true about the redub PAL copy. We might as well wait and see if it turns up.

    Also, I'd be quite interested in regards to the UK VHS tapes.
     
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    Well, I may be interested :D
     

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