"Masters of the Universe" Talkback (Spoilers)

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  1. NinjaJack

    NinjaJack New Member

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    Masters Of The Universe Talkback*spoilers*

    A Battle Fought In The Stars. Now... Comes To Earth.
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    "I HAVE THE POWER!" - He-Man

    Release Date:
    August 7, 1987
    Studio: Cannon Films
    Director: Gary Goddard
    Starring: Dolph Lundgren, Frank Langella, Meg Foster, Billy Barty, Courtney Cox, Robert Duncan McNeill, Jon Cypher, Chelsea Field, James Tolkan, Christina Pickles, Tony Carroll, Pons Maar, Anthony De Longis, Robert Towers, Barry Livingston

    Plot Summary: Fantasy action-adventure about the war-torn planet Eternia and the Castle of Greyskull which is coming under threat from the evil Skeletor who wants to take over the planet. A group of freedom fighters, led by the heroic He-Man are accidentally transported to Earth by a mysterious Cosmic Key, which holds the power to make Skeletor all-powerful. Once on Earth, He-Man and Co. team up with two teenagers as they attempt to find the key and return home. However, Skeletor and his minions are soon hot on their trail.

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    It was 1987, Superheroes only had cartoon films, the small sum that reached live action mostly fizziled out before they made an impact.
    Masters was an exception, sure the effects weren't great, the dialog needed work. But give it a break, it was one of the firsts of it's genre, maybe you could find it in your local video store and give your childhood hello.


    This is the Talkback for Masters of the Universe.
     
  2. ToonamiFanatic

    ToonamiFanatic New Member

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    I thought it was a great movie Need to get it on DVD though
    It could have had a bigger budget but i thought it was good as it is now
    the makeup for skeletor was awesome really liked that
     
  3. Digu Volz

    Digu Volz is yo' mama

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    Well, it did break about even in theatres at the tail end of He-Man's popularity, but if there were ever a sequel, it'd probably be animated.
     
  4. Anyone00

    Anyone00 The Moltar-Snork

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    I really like this movie, but I also really like the 'Howard The Duck' movie and the 3+ hours Director's Cut of 'Dune' is one of my favorite movies of all time; so that should tell you alot about my taste in movies.

    Best thing about this movie is that it will forever hang over the head of Courtney Cox Arket(sp?) along with here dancing in that Gorge Michaels(sp?) Video, and screaming "Hey, Glow!!!" at her from crowds to get her attention.
     
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    I've always loved that movie, from a toddler up to now. It quickly made Skeletor one of my favorite villains. No squeaky Halloweeny voice in the live-action version, uh-uh. No, this was the way Skeletor was supposed to be. Plus the film has great characters, the 80s vibe, Courtney Cox, a good plot...3 1/2 stars.
     
  7. DarkAngel

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    I've always liked it. I thought the beginning was great, with Skeletor's forces taking Grayskull and I loved the ending when he and his soldiers arrived on Earth to capture He-man. The middle probably could have used some work, but overall I enjoyed the movie. I liked the music score, too.
     
  8. Supernovametalstar

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    Master of the Universe is one of my favorite movies of all time :D . I saw it one Saturday afternoon when I was 10 or 11 and I couldn't believe how great it was. Today I can see how cheesy some of it was, but I still love it.

    What made the movie for me was Frank Langella as Skeletor. He was so devilish and vampire-like, yet charismatic and commanding. He had all the best lines in the movie, especially this one:

    "I am Alpha and Omega...death and rebirth. And as you die, so shall I be reborn."

    The special effects were great to look at. Some may call them cheap, but I'll bet for that decade, they were pretty expensive. I like them better than most of the computer effects of today (I always thought less is more when it comes to special effects).

    The music was very good, probably the first time I had taken note of movie music (this and Superman).

    I just retaped an unedited version from Cinemax a couple of weeks ago. They just don't make them like they used to ;) .
     
  9. Rune

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    I took my brother to see MOTU at the cinema, he hadn't actually expressed a desire to see it but I had a burgeoning crush on Dolph at the time after Rocky IV !(Its ok, go ahead and laugh, I can take it, I was young n foolish then and I have broad shoulders now!) :D

    Anyway, its on fairly regularly over here (UK) as satellite TV dug it up on their playlist and I caugt it the other day and have to confess it brings back some happy memories. Okay some of the acting is hammy to say the least but Frank Langella made Skeletor memorably evil and Billy Barty played his usual good turn as Gwildor and the plot, though predicatble was certainly no worse than anything else around then.

    It took me a couple of ticks to place Kevin (Robert Duncan McNeill) as Voyager's Tom Paris though :)

    All in all watchable fun
     
  10. James

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    I hated it. Not only was it absolutely nothing like the He-Man that I knew and loved, it did that all too often done Hollywood thing and have it set on Earth. I despised it for that. I was old enough to have seen this lazy sort of production done too many times. Wanna do a sci-fi project on the cheap? Set it on contempory Earth.

    The fact it was blatantly clear that no one on the creative crew had actually watched or studied He-Man, and it was clear they had instead decided to watch Star Wars on the sneak, boiled me in my pants.

    Nothing impressed me about this film. It was gutless broth and I recall truely believing that there would never be a time when a tie-in movie/show would be faithful to it's source.

    I was wrong about that, however Masters Of The Universe stands as another of the 80's failure to make cash on a tie-in with dignity. Just like The Punisher. Remind me, who did that star....
     
  11. Rune

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    Actually I agree with you on of that, it was very cheap, very tacky and and the plot as I said was wafer thin at the best of times. Also it was patently obvious that nobody on the production team or cast had done their homework other than to latch on to the fact that someone with muscles picks up his sword and shrieks 'I have the power' at a critical and pivotal juncture. However, to be quite honest I didn't exactly have high level expectations of what it was going to deliver, I mean you could tell by glancing at the trailers that it wasn't going to break any new ground nor be true to its animated origins and that with the possible exception of some freebie-laden Sun reviewer everyone else in the media was just going to back off pronto.

    I still stick by what I said that it was fun (okay so maybe fun is not the word here more perhaps just a chance to disengage the grey matter for an hour) and I'll admit I'm probably looking at it through rose coloured glasses because it brings back a certain time in my life. Like I said its on Sky movies and I caught it once a month or so back but I wouldn't want to sit through it again because I know I'd probably start hating it - my kids certainly did - and that would just feel like too much denial if you know what I mean.

    Wah! SJJ is picking on me! :p
     
  12. Sarada

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    I managed to catch some clips on the YouTubes a while back and just checked on them now. As hammy most of the elements are...Frank Langella's an epic god of acting. I don't know how he did it but he completely saved the movie from being horrible. Well, I should say completely. The score for the film was really well done and helped the strong cinematography for the throne room scenes.

    Should the remake ever get off its feet Langella should absolutely take on that Skeletor. It'd be genius.
     
  13. DisneyBoy

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    I can't really applaud Frank Langella for his performance. I mean, does he really get points for overdoing it while everyone else was under-doing it?

    The movie's a mess. I'll never forget the first time I saw it on tv, got excited thinking it was going to be half decent, and then got more Billy Barty doing his thing. Not a bad actor, but he tends to play annoying characters.

    Such a cheap Hollywood flick, really. "Let's take this cool concept, and make it as easy to shoot as possible." It's just a mess. Makes me wonder if the Filmation people ever got to voice their opinion at all during the process...
     
  14. Michael24

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    When I think of Masters of the Universe, only one word comes to mind: "Ugh." The Beastmaster is more of a He-Man movie than MotU. Langella is the only bright spot in an otherwise dreadful movie, and get this: it's one of his most favorite roles.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfiOOwJTgg8

    :D

    In any event, I hope that one day we'll get a proper He-Man movie that leaves him and the other characters in their own world.
     
  15. Mandouga

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    It was originally released in 1987. At that time, the main franchise was still active (although by then it was in its "latter-day" period), so I think this counts as an alternate interpretation (because of this, I consider it to be part of the franchise itself along with the animated show Filmation made). There's no Prince Adam, but that's okay, because the He-Man character came first anyway. Teela looked different, yet I recognized her (and her father Man-At-Arms) right away.

    The only parts I didn't like were when Julie was tricked into giving the Cosmic Key to her "mother" (who is supposed to be dead):


    I also didn't like the graphic portrayal of the wound Julie got from Skeletor's lightning bolt (according to TV Tropes, this would be considered High Octane Nightmare Fuel; really, it's that bad). I sometimes wonder how Mattel (the original creators of the toyline) never caught that. In any case, I am glad that that alone didn't give it a PG-13 rating (after all, this is He-Man/Masters of the Universe we're talking about).

    BTW, did you know that the guy who played Kevin (her boyfriend) later went on to play Lt. Tom Paris in Star Trek: Voyager? Also, they did indeed plan a sequel, but Cannon Films was having problems, and as a result, they took the constumes and sets that they were going to use for it, and used them to make the unrelated, R-rated Jean Claude Van Damme (I think) vehicle Cyborg in 1991.

    All in all, it may not have the same production values as the Filmation TV series (or the mini-comics that came with the action figures), but it's still He-Man/Masters of the Universe at heart, hence the reason I see it as an alternate interpretation.
     
  16. AdamYJ

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    It was okay. Entertaining, but not great.

    One thing that bothered me about it is that in one part of the movie they assemble a group of bad guys to hunt down the heroes and the only ones in it from the cartoon/toyline are Evil-Lyn and Beastman. I mean, that scene is an excuse to throw as many existing villian characters in as possible. They could have had Tri-Klops, Trapjaw, Whiplash, Clawful, Two-Bad, Merman, etc. But no, instead it's Evil-Lyn, Beastman and a bunch of random new alien guys. :confused:
     
  17. Robin2099

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    There's actually more to it than that. At the time, Albert Puyn(Kickboxer 2, Captain America) was going to direct a Spiderman movie, and Masters of the Universe with surfer John Hamilton playing He-Man. After the check to Mattel bounced, they asked him to write a movie using the sets that were built for MOTU2, The script for Cyborg had nothing to do with the script for MOTU2.

    [QUOTEThe fact it was blatantly clear that no one on the creative crew had actually watched or studied He-Man, and it was clear they had instead decided to watch Star Wars on the sneak, boiled me in my pants.][/QUOTE]

    It actually was faithful to what He-Man originally was as portrayed in the mini comics that came with the first wave, However, the problem was that kids were more familiar with the cartoon and not the mini comics so thus they were confused.
     
  18. Shawn Hopkins

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    Courtney Cox was cute in this. And it proves that one's career can bounce back from just about anything. I didn't care for the movie as a kid though, it just seemed too different and the Billy Barty character really grated and annoyed me for some reason.
     
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