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"Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy (Animated)" News & Discussion Thread, Part 2 (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'The Marvel Animation Forum' started by RoyalRubble, Sep 28, 2015.

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  1. TheLemsterPju

    TheLemsterPju Well-Known Member

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    I think part of it is people who were previously fans of Marvel Animation, before Ultimate Spider-Man soured their taste, are completely avoiding the current Marvel cartoons. (Which is very unfortunate, considering how they've improved.) Even then, Marvel Animation has never reached the same attention as Star Wars or DC's animated works, even during the days of Spectacular Spider-Man and Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.
     
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  2. PapaGreg

    PapaGreg Peppermint tea for me

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    Then again Spectacular Spiderman and AEMH were short lived so maybe with time they would've have had the same attention
     
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  3. Capt.Traphouse

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    Airing at 9:30 Saturday probably hurts it.
     
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  4. Frontier

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    Well, it's tough to top Star Wars, though you would expect it being a lead in for Rebels would benefit GoTG more then it has :ack:.

    But ouch at those ratings...I hate bringing this up, because I enjoy the show a lot, but I have to wonder how much incentive XD has to keep it in production if the ratings don't improve? Maybe they're banking on Guardians Vol. 2 drawing more people in? Or does the working relationship with Marvel and product synergy help keep it afloat o_O?

    I also wonder why the ratings are low...is it because of the original morning air times? Are the Guardians just not as appealing in cartoon format as they are in live-action? Did the style of writing or the show in general just not click with kids :(?

    And I guess kids must have really enjoyed watching a team of Hulks have zany and sitcom-esque adventures with toyetic elements, because that's the only thing I can think of that explains those SMASH ratings :sweat:.
     
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    The ratings are never that high on Disney XD. It's not a high rated network.

    I could really care less how much fan art there is. Fan art doesn't determine my level of enjoyment.
     
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  6. RoyalRubble

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    According to Zap2it, "The Symbiote War" story-arc airs on May 6th.

    S02, E11 Symbiote War Part One - Wild World 5/06/2017
    S02, E12 Symbiote War Part Two - I Will Survive 5/06/2017
    S02, E13 Symbiote War Part Three - Thunder Road 5/06/2017
     
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  7. Frontier

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    Wow, a three-parter :eek:!

    The "Asgard War" was one of the high points of season 1, so hopefully the "Symbiote War" will be a strong and enjoyable arc in it's own right :).

    I'm definitely curious to see what the Symbiotes are like here compared to their last appearance, and from interviews it sounds like we'll get some big stuff for Groot in this arc, so that should be good :cool:.

    I wonder if "Thunder Road" implies Thor will be showing up? The Symbiotes have a weakness to electricity, so it would be pretty cool to watch Thor go toe-to-toe with them :D.
     
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    I don't know if anyone noticed this yet, but it seems like Disney XD is pumping these season two episodes out at a fast pace. FIVE episodes will air on the 15th of this month, and three will air on May 6th. Along with the episodes that just aired, that's over one-third of the season being aired over the course of a month. I think it may have to do with the really low ratings, so I worry that we may not even get another season after this. :(
     
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    Yeah, that seems really weird that XD would be pumping out all these episodes so quickly o_O.

    A part of me can't help but think it might be part of promoting the movie, but there's definitely an air of just rushing through the rest of the series so as to get it over with. Reminds me of how Beware the Batman was treated oh so long ago :(.

    Well, at least we'll have plenty to discuss then :sweat:.
     
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    Yeah, I hope they renew it for A third season despite pumping all the episodes so fast.
     
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    My guess? April 15th = Easter marathon, May 6th = Movie tie-in

    I really don't think we need to worry about this. As Wacker previously said in regards to ratings, just worry about what’s going to happen next!

    On top of that, I'd rather have a multitude of episodes than a drought like many other shows (ex. Justice League Action...). After the Symbiote War three-parter, I think the episodes will be spread out regularly again. So no worries. The ratings are what they are, but Disney seems to be really supportive of Marvel's shows so I think it will be okay. :)
     
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  12. Capt.Traphouse

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    Off topic but GOTG is being treated better than JLA where Cartoon Network seems to just want to murder the show in its sleep.
     
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  13. Frontier

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    Yeah, say what you will about XD, they've treated their Marvel properties fairly well all things considered. Especially compared to Cartoon Network :sweat:.
     
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    New clip:



    I wonder if they'll release clips for each new episode set to air tomorrow.
     
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    I BELIEVE...the animation in that clip actually looks pretty good :).

    Also nice to see Nebula again :anime:.
     
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    Well that's because the GOTG cartoon (with the exception of origin mini episodes and a few episodes from the regular series) is garbage in regards to writing, animation,and art. The low ratings that this show is getting might explain why they are airing several new episodes back to back. They might be trying to quickly burn through these episodes so that they can cancel this garbage show. IMO, this show would have been a heck of a lot better if they didn't try so hard to reflect/copy the movie and instead be more faithful to the original comics. Synergy with the films,silly stories that talk down to the viewers,terrible art,terrible animation (again, except for a few episodes),and not trying to be more faithful to the comic book versions of these characters (which would give non comic book reading viewers something unique and different from the movies) is why this show is tanking in the ratings.

    The MOVIE versions of the Guardians with the synergy driven and silly/comedic writing style (which talks down to the viewers) are 2 of several reasons why this show is not appealing to kids. Like AVENGERS ASSEMBLE, this show made the stupid mistake of trying to be more of an adaption of the film (with a few elements from the comics) instead of trying to adapt the comics (with a few elements from the films. One of the reasons why BATMAN TAS,THE BATMAN,WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN,and SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN were such huge hits with viewers was because they tried to be more faithful to the comic book versions than the movie versions of those characters, while at the same time trying to do something new and different.

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  17. Frontier

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    I think that's doing the show a disservice.

    I mean, obviously the show has taken a lot of visual and characterization cues from the movies, but I think to it's credit it's also brought in plenty from the comics that were not in the movies and been able to establish itself as it's own entity separate from the films. We're certainly not going to get something like the Adam Warlock scene in today's episode in the movies anytime soon.

    Of course, I also want the shows to stop aping the movies as much as they have and draw on more from the comics and be more original, but I don't think that's a major issue for Guardians in particular. I also think there's still some writing, animation, and quality issues the cartoons could still address, but I also feel that's been steadily improving as of late.

    And I doubt it's the movie synergy that's hurting the show's ratings since Assemble, which has arguably been even more defined by the movies, doesn't seem to have the same issue as far as I'm aware.
     
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    Personally I think Guardians is a pretty well-written show. And while there is some synergy with the live-action movie, the show has touched on some stuff that hasn't happened in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (and in some cases, might never happen). We had J'Son back in the 1st Season in what was probably the show's best arc, we had Thor as a guest-star alongside Angela, and now we're getting Mantis as a villainess and Adam Warlock.

    Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion but I don't think the show is that bad, or mirrors the movies as much as some say. I like it and find it entertaining enough. And I don't really care that much about what the ratings are since those are not always the best way to determine a show's success.
     
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    Yes, they've taken a number of things from the comics. However, the things that they've taken from the comics have been changed and altered to fit into the GOTG MCU continuity (like the High Evolutionary being an alien). A lot of the stories are written with future movies in mind (like Mantis being a bad guy). That to me, hampers the creativity of the show. And we all know that they will either ignore or change the shows past continuity and stories in order to make the show more similar to the movie continuity. Heck, I'm calling it right now, either this season or the 3rd season (if this show is lucky enough to get a 3rd season) they will do a story where it is revealed that J'son Quill is actually the humanoid construct form of Ego the Living Planet. This type of restricted synergy is one of the reasons why the current Marvel shows are so creatively bankrupt and lackluster in regards to the writing (with the exception of several episodes). The writers of these shows have their hands tied by synergy.
     
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    At the end of the day, it's your choice whether you watch it or not if you have so many problems with it. I understand you want Marvel's animated shows to improve and we have Marvel's Spider-Man to watch and see if any changes, small or big, have been made. On top of that, we even have Big Hero 6: The Series coming up, which is based on a Marvel comic series, even if it's created by Disney Animation instead of Marvel Animation.

    It's easy to find the faults in something. Recognizing the good in a flawed product is a much more appealing character trait in my eyes.
     
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