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Marvel's Avengers Ultron Revolution "Ant-Man Makes It Big" Talkback (Spoilers)

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  1. RoyalRubble

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    Tune in for a new episode of Marvel's Avengers Ultron Revolution, today at 8:30AM ET on Disney XD!

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    Marvel's Avengers Ultron Revolution "Ant-Man Makes It Big"
    Episode Debut - October 2nd, 2016
    Directed by: Tim Eldred
    Written by: Dani Michaeli

    On the set of a superhero motion picture, the Avengers team up with Ant-Man to stop the madman Egghead from destroying Los Angeles.

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  2. Capt.Traphouse

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    The weakest episode the season. Plot was contrived, hates the enemy designs with the egg theme being yuck and so much stupid stuff.

    "Did you just call us commoners?" Lol this was so stupid. I loved it. The Thor side plot went nowhere.
     
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  3. Frontier

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    This episode is up there with "Dehulked," and "A Friend in Need" as feeling like a season 1 episode with a fresh coat of Ultron Revolution paint. The writing wasn't as bad as season 1, but it felt a little too silly and goofy for it's own good, especially with other episodes of season 3 in mind. Not that Assemble can't be goofy or silly sometimes, but there are degrees to which it's appropriate or handled well and it's been a tough balance for this show to manage :oops:.

    It was nice seeing Scott again, even if the impact of seeing him back was kind of lessened by the fact that he was in an episode of USM that aired before this show did. I wonder if it was deliberate to have two episodes with Ant-Man in them air so close together or if it was just a happy coincidence o_O?

    Was it ever mentioned before that Scott was from LA? I do like the idea of him being a solo hero with his own turf in the city of the angels, where he gets involved in the glam of Hollywood and his own brand or Rogues. It sounds like Scott has a lot of fun on his own that we'll probably never get to see that much of outside this episode :sweat:.

    I wonder if Hope Van Dyne will be introduced as an LA heiress who Scott meets? I was almost kind of surprised she didn't' show up in this episode, given she'll be becoming The Wasp next season, but this wasn't really the episode for introducing a New Avenger :ack:.

    With Hawkeye in this episode, they totally should've made a West Coast Avengers joke ;).

    So...teammates can't leave the team to go off and do their own thing? They're supposed to be on the team indefinitely full-time? I know most heroes in the MAU have no lives outside of being Superheroes or being on Superhero teams, but that seems kind of harsh coming from Widow. Especially given that time she left the Avengers with Cap to form a team with SHIELD, so she's arguably just as guilty of "betraying" her teammates as Scott is :mad:.

    I feel like this episode missed out on lampshading and parodying Superhero movies and Marvel Studios in general, at least more then it actually did. I guess we'll just have to settle with a movie trailer with designs lifted almost straight out of Avengers: United They Stand :p.

    It's kind of sad that people just standing around with their phones all day, either filming or playing with them, is actually pretty realistic :rolleyes2:.

    I can't believe Thor's only major contributions to this episode was carrying a baby around, fist-bumping and high-fiving people, and dealing with a jerk of an actor who he then promptly scarred for life by taking him to Asgard. Firstly, stop trying to make Thor "hip," and second of all...really :rolleyes:?

    I guess Egghead makes sense as a villain for an Ant-Man focused episode, let alone one as goofy as this ended up being, but it's weird to see them try and turn another villain associated with Hank into a villain for Scott. But I guess it comes as no surprise given how much they've merged the characters in this continuity :shrug:.

    The show's use of Egghead was pretty decent, playing him as the silly megalomaniacal villain that he is, though I'm not sure why they made him so short. I guess they wanted to go for a "small body, big head" joke? And the whole "disgruntled special effects guy turned Supervillain" shtick felt too much like a Mysterio riff, though at least his robots weren't illusions. And his egg-chicken robot armor was glorious :anime:.

    It was nice to see them use an actual Ant-Man villain and use ol' Elias at all, not to mention letting Scott get the last hit on him, even if it feels like Yellowjacket would've made more sense with Scott as Ant-Man and with the movie in mind, and probably look cooler too. Then again, this being Assemble, Yellowjacket probably wouldn't look as cool in animation as he did in the movies :sad:.

    Yuri Lowenthal as Egghead was...unexpected. Not to say he didn't do a good job with this take on the character, even if it felt a little dry at times, but it was really odd hearing him in that role. Wayne Knight was also the perfect Egghead in Super Hero Squad, so it was kinda hard to get that voice out of my head, let alone listen to Yuri playing him :eek:.

    Egghead only just now becoming a Supervillain doesn't really jive with Scott listing him off as one of the villains he sold tech to in season 2, but c'est la vie...
     
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  4. JoeMabbon

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    That movie looked awful. They should've just let Egghead ruin it.

    Also, cartoon writers a word? Please stop making "Hollyweird" episodes. You are no good at it.
     
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  5. RoryWilliams

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    The episode is up there with the Vision one as the weakest of the season.

    That said the one thing I did like was the use of the Avengers: United They Stand designs and the fake Black Widow wearing her 90's costume.
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    The one thing I can count on this show is that even the lame episodes will have obscure references that make me smile.

    Even the Civil War joke in the fake trailer got a small chuckle out of me.

    I was surprised that they didn't redesign Ant-Man to look more like his movie counterpart or try to change his personality to match, especially with Hope coming next season.
     
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  6. Roxas_Sora

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    I managed to see the episode, and I have a few things to comment:

    + The trailer of the "Human-Ant and the Revengers", well, I don't know what to think of it.

    + Black Widow's imitation (Dark Spider), have you noticed that she looks like quite similar to Ultimate Jessica Drew (Ultimate Spider-Woman, later the new Ultimate Black Widow)? I mean, the jacket at all, it's just like the Ultimate Comics' version of Jessica Drew as Black Widow, right before the new Secret Wars.

    + That guy at the end of the trailer, was that supposed to be Spider-Man? (Or maybe "Arachno-Man"?). This is clearly a reference to the trailer of "Captain America: Civil War". I think Spidey needs an agent in Hollywood.

    + It's just me or have you noticed something weird with Egghead? I mean, his origin as a specialist with special effects reminds me pretty much Mysterio's origins.

    + Quite funny to see the Lava Men here as "fiction characters". I mean, they were quite popular in the past, being one of Thor's most recurrent enemies back in his first issues.
     
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  7. Gold Guy

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    Mediocre episode. Egghead is just a lame villain, and the humor wasn't good. Also, Black Widow was being unnecessarily annoying to Scott.
     
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    The Human-Ant's Armour in that trailer sequence looked like Ant-Man's Armour from Avengers: United They Stand.
     
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  9. RoryWilliams

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    If she does, that's entirely a coincidence. Like I said, that's the costume Black Widow used to have in the 90's, complete with the short haircut.
     
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    I thought this episode was pretty funny. Some of the jokes didn't work, but a few managed to make me laugh like Thor complaining about the actor giving him bad directions and ending up at a bar. It was a fun filler episode.

    Can Friday become Jocasta already?
     
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    "So it is a movie about imitation Avengers with you as the leader?"

    It was clearly a burn directed at United They Stand.

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    Do they need to be? In the comics, FRIDAY and Jocasta were two separate entities. I mean it would probably be convenient to mash them up here but is it really necessary?

    I'm not really understanding Ant-Man's hang-up about leaving the Avengers. If that was the case, why did he join in the first place? I guess my problem is the show didn't really show Scott being homesick or having trouble getting a handle on the Avengers dealing with global threats. Maybe he liked being a solo-guy better.

    Then Black Widow seems so upset he left. I could be reading way too much into it, but it was almost like she was upset with Scott Lang for leaving HER and not the Avengers. If Tony who recruited him in the first place signed off on it, I'm not seeing the problem. Even as a superhero, Scott Lang has no obligation to be a part of the Avengers.

    If I got the chance to tweak it a little bit, I would've had Scott's motivation for leaving that he felt "small" and inadequate being on a team with the likes of Cap, Hulk, Thor and Iron Man. Like he couldn't measure up to his own expectations even if the team felt differently and it hurt his self-confidence. Maybe that's a character flaw, but it's an interesting one. Maybe he even had unresolved feelings for Black Widow. I know this show tends to restrict romance, but I don't have that problem ;) .

    I was happy we got a traditional version of Egghead here. Wasn't expecting him to be the villain this week.
     
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    Oooh.... Looks like Marvel is saving Ant-Man's redesign into his MCU's Counterpart's appearance for the fourth season, But it was nice seeing him again after Avengers Worlds and him being offered on the Avengers again when he's ready foreshadowing the fourth season.
     
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    Yuri Lowenthal did a good job as Egghead too.
     
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    Seconded. I also found Natasha's gripe with Scott forced, unnecessary, and contrived. And even then, this is still a cartoon, so show don't tell! Animation is a visual medium after all.

    Also, anybody noticed how Widow was the only one with the more fluent animation than the rest?!
     
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    Just saw the episode, the United they Stand reference was the best thing.
     
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    Pretty lame episode overall but there was some good stuff in it.

    - Obviously, the fake movie trailer poking fun at the late '90s Avengers United They Stand cartoon. The movie seemed like it would be even worse than that, actually, even if this one featured the more important Avengers Revengers. Also, "Marvelous Studios", I can't imagine what they were alluding to. :p

    - It was kind of nice seeing Ant-Man again, he's one of the few characters we have actually seen in the past working alongside the Avengers so his presence here didn't feel as sudden as the introductions for Vision, Captain Marvel or Black Panther.

    - Egghead has always been a pretty silly villain, and that was noticeable here as well. His background and resoning for wanting to destroy Ant-Man and the movie was ridiculous though. Him being a special effects guy wanting revenge for getting fired reminded me of Mysterio. I appreciate they didn't have him pose as the movie's director, tricking Scott into dangerous scenarios, like the plot of an episode from the '60s Fantastic Four cartoon.

    - The drama between Black Widow and Ant-Man got kind of annoying, not to mention it didn't really make much sense and I didn't think it got a decent conclusion either. Still, if it means Scott will appear again in the future and Natasha won't be so bitter towards him, I can live with it.

    - Thor's sub-plot was pretty dumb. I didn't think it was all that funny either. Probably my least favorite arts of the episode. On a somewhat related note, I noticed those bikers that attacked Thor and the actor playing Thor, were wearing jackets with a "Phantom Riders" logo. Probably a nod to Ghost Rider, or I'm just over-thinking this.

    - The action scenes were pretty good, I liked the addition of those robotic Lava Men, and thought that fight with Hawkeye passing through different green screen effects was pretty awesome. Egghead's giant robot chickens were silly but I get the feeling that was intentional.
     
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    I'm not sure that AA has earned the right to take jabs at any previous Marvel cartoons for being bad.
     
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  18. RoyalRubble

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    I think Avengers United They Stand kind of had it coming...
     
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    I do sometimes ponder how this era of Marvel Animation will be looked back on a decade from now on, especially compared to other eras or cartoons.

    Should be interesting to see :sweat:.
     

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