Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. "Ragtag" Talkback (Spoilers)

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  1. The Penguin

    The Penguin All Hail the King! Moderator

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    New episode of S.H.I.E.L.D. tonight at 8 ET on ABC.

    Please note, this thread may contain spoilers and references to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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    "Ragtag"
    Tuesday, May 6, 2014 @ 8 p.m. ET/7 CT on ABC
    Ward's betrayal and HYDRA's shocking secrets are revealed as Coulson's team goes undercover on a mission that leaves no one unscathed.

    #1.20: "Nothing Personal"

    ABC.com - Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
     
  2. Dudley

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    I see their using old school spy gadgets. That's awesome!
     
  3. kid rabbit

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    I'm calling it Skye is quake
     
  4. Gold Guy

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    Pretty cool episode. The flashbacks were interesting and well done. Nice fakeout with the dog, but a part of me hope it lived.
     
  5. Yojimbo

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    So Garrett. 25 years. Left to die. First Deathlok. Was just looking for a way to survive? Wants to found a better SHIELD?

    Loved Coulson and Triplett going fan boy over the Howlin Commando kit.

    May was awesome. "Does your sweater itch?" Taking out the guard, putting the phone back on the hook, fixing her glasses. Having a genuine conversation with Skye... about her Hate-Fu. "Watch out Hydra. Here we come."

    Didn't expect for there to be some connection between Raina and Skye. And Skye's parents are "monsters"? She's a Half-Makluan isn't she?

    "Get ready for a large file transfer." :D

    Buddy! I knew Ward wouldn't shoot him. I still don't forgive him.

    But ah man, but now they got Deathlok and Super-Garrett to deal with. How the heck are they going to stop those two?
     
  6. darkdetective

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    Um, pretty sure he did shoot the dog later.
     
  7. macattack

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    Ward did shoot the dog. He shot it through the sniper rifle, not up-close with the pistol. This is solidified with the way he plunged Fitz and Simmons into the water. He can't kill people he knows up close. He has to be a distance away in order to do it. This makes Ward a unique type of psychopath, which I will give this show credit for.

    This episode basically shows Ward is definitely evil and there's no redeeming him. It's good that they have effectively decided to write off any chance of saving him, especially with the way he dispatched Fitz and Simmons (who, unless they are rescued, are in for nightmarish deaths). Ward is a better character this way, and it shows how messed up he truly is.

    The only question then, who does this make Triplett? Is he a HYDRA agent too, and is just continuing to play possum to keep an eye on Coulson? One must imagine that Triplett was recruited the same way Ward was . . .
     
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    I'm thinking that Triplet will just take Ward's place on the team. having another character do a heel turn at this point would be redundant.
     
  9. bat313

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    Anyone have any comic book knowledge about the story of who Skye's parents are?

    Also, I still have not seen The Winter Soldier yet but so far it looks like the only real movie spoiler is finding out about HYDRA infiltrating and taking down SHIELD. Besides finding out what happened to Hill and what happened to Fury in the finale does anyone have a good reason why I should wait to watch the finale until after seeing the movie?
     
  10. Tohya

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    His grandfather was a Howling Commando, theres zero % chance he has anything to do with HYDRA. Ward was recruited because he was a nobody with a ridiculously traumatic childhood that was slated for a life of incarceration . Triplett on the other hand couldn't be more star spangled banner, you honestly think Garret would of risked also recruiting Triplett knowing his pedigree? I assume its the reason they revealed Triplett's grandfather was a Howling Commando, to dispel any notion that he might be loyal to Garret.
     
  11. Rick Jones

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    Just to play devil's advocate a little, his granddaddy could have been someone that helped with the integration of Zola (and HYDRA) into S.H.I.E.L.D. I hope not but it doesn't hurt to keep both eyes opened.
     
  12. Tohya

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    That would be a pretty big reach don't you think =p . People like [Alexander] Pierce and Garret were recruited because they became disillusioned. Ward was recruited because he was a lost teenager. That motivation and lack of choice didn't exist for Triplett or his grandfather. If his grandfather was a Howling Commando and decided to not retire and help create SHIELD then that means he did it with the likes of Dum Dum Dugan and Howard Stark, making him [potentially] one of the founders of SHIELD. And since Zola acted independent of SHIELD in the beginning, there does not exist a motivation or a reason for Tripletts granddaddy to ever betray his country to the enemy he spent years fighting against. And no the potential for his granddaddy being a sleeper agent does not exist. I highly doubt an African American would of ever been recruited by the Nazis.
     
  13. Yojimbo

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    Wow. I thought that was Garrett with the sniper rifle. I figured Garrett would be watching him to see if he complied and there was that part in the present when he reminded Ward he didn't exactly do everything he was ordered to. That's where I was coming from. The 'distance' argument makes sense, though.

    He did basically pull off a Loki like in The Avengers. Hmm.

    Assuming she is a comic book character? I remember at the start people thought it was Coulson and May (though now with memory erasing in play...nah), then aliens, and now this monsters angle? I was only half joking about her being a Makluan.

    If you haven't see Captain America: The Winter Soldier, at this point. Don't bother. It's sort of too late to even ask yourself that. I'm sure they'll reiterate somethings in the finale that are connected so fans like you aren't in the dark but still enrich it in a way for the fans that did go see TWS.
     
  14. TheVileOne

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    Anyone's guess is pretty much as good as anyone else's on Skye's origin right now.
     
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    Well Miss Flower Dress, sure is disappointed with Garret, she thought he was a special and powerful being who shared in her ideals of human evolution and transformation, turned out he was just a con man afraid to die.
     
  16. BlackoutCreature

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    I doubt Triplett is gonna turn out to be HYDRA. It would just be pointless at this point. That said I still find the character kinda creepy at times and I'm not sure I want him around for season two.

    I had this theory that Skye was Red Skull's granddaughter. At the time of her birth she presumably would've been the only known person on the planet with the Super-Soldier formula in her system (as diluted as it might be) thus why everybody was trying to either capture or kill her. It doesn't look like that's the directions they're going though. Her being an MCU version of Fin Fang Foom would be... interesting?

    I'm really glad the show has been renewed. Never thought I'd say that after the really slow and uninteresting first half of the season, but the show has really turned into something interesting and I'm curious to see where it goes from here.
     
  17. Rick Jones

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    This makes me think about Firebreather, who I think was originally supposed to be Fin Fang Foom's kid before they had to rework the concept.
     

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