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    This thread is dedicated to movies and television series that have been mentioned to be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe but not yet officially announced. Once announced, it will be spun off into its own thread. Note: This thread does not cover Fox or Sony properties, for links see 6B.


    Index
    1. Movies
    I. Phase One and Two Talkback Threads
    II. Phase Two
    III. Phase Three
    IV. Phase Four
    V. Considered


    2. Television
    I. Active Production
    II. In Development/Not Greenlit/Shelved
    III. Rumored
    IV. Not Greenlit
    V. Possible/Considered

    3. Marvel One-Shots

    4. Netflix

    5. Hulu

    6. Comics

    7. Non-MCU
    A. Television
    B. Movies
    I. Columbia Pictures/Sony
    II. 20th Century Fox


    1. Movies
    I. Phase One Talkback Threads

    Phase One: Avengers Assembled
    Iron Man
    Theatrical Release Date: May 2, 2008
    Home Entertainment Release Date: September 30, 2008
    The Incredible Hulk
    Theatrical Release Date: June 13, 2008
    Home Entertainment Release Date: October 21, 2008
    Iron Man 2
    Theatrical Release Date: May 7, 2010
    Home Entertainment Release Date: September 28, 2010
    Thor
    Theatrical Release Date: May 6, 2011
    Home Entertainment Release Date: September 13, 2011
    Captain America:The First Avenger
    Theatrical Release Date: July 22, 2011
    Home Entertainment Release Date: October 25, 2011
    Marvel's The Avengers
    Theatrical Release Date: May 4, 2012
    Home Entertainment Release Date: September 25, 2012

    I. Phase Two Talkback Threads

    Iron Man 3
    Theatrical Release Date: May 3, 2013
    Home Entertainment Release Date: September 24, 2013
    Thor: The Dark World
    Theatrical Release Date: November 8, 2013
    Home Entertainment Release Date: February 25, 2014
    Captain America: The Winter Soldier
    Theatrical Release Date: April 4, 2014
    Home Entertainment Release Date: September 9, 2014
    Guardians of the Galaxy
    Theatrical Release Date: August 1st, 2014
    Home Entertainment Release Date: December 9, 2014
    Avengers: Age of Ultron
    News & Discussion Part 1
    News & Discussion Part 2

    News & Discussion Part 3
    Theatrical Release Date: May 1, 2015
    Ant-Man
    News & Discussion Part 1

    News & Discussion Part 2
    Theatrical Release Date: July 17, 2015

    III. Phase Three
    Source: Crave Online 4/12/12, CBM 11/2, THR 6/13/13, CS 6/24, IGN 10/28, Variety 1/29/14, THR 2/20, IGN 2/25, CBM 3/11, SlashFilm 3/13, BadAssDigest 3/13, ET 7/8, Marvel 7/18, Marvel 7/23, CBR 7/26, Marvel 10/28, Agent M 10/28, CBR 2/9/15, CBR 2/9, CBR 2/10, CBR 9/30, CBR 10/8,

    Captain America: Civil War
    News & Discussion Part 1
    News & Discussion Part 2
    Theatrical Release Date: May 6, 2016
    Home Entertainment Release: September 2 and 13, 2016

    Dr. Strange
    Theatrical Release Date: November 4, 2016
    Home Entertainment Release: February 28, 2017

    Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
    Theatrical Release Date: May 5, 2017
    Home Entertainment Release: August 8 and 22, 2017

    Spider-Man: Homecoming
    News & Discussion
    News & Discussion Part 2
    Theatrical Release Date: July 7, 2017
    Formerly: July 28, 2017
    Home Entertainment Release: September 26 and October 17, 2017

    Thor: Ragnarok
    News & Discussion Part 1
    News & Discussion Part 2
    Theatrical Release Date: November 3, 2017
    Formerly: July 28, 2017

    Black Panther
    Theatrical Release Date: February 16, 2018
    Formerly: November 3, 2017; July 6, 2018

    Avengers: Infinity War
    News & Discussion Part 1
    News & Discussion Part 2

    Theatrical Release Date: May 4, 2018

    Ant-Man and The Wasp
    July 6, 2018

    Captain Marvel
    Theatrical Release Date: March 8, 2019
    Formerly: July 6, 2018; November 2, 2018

    Avengers: Infinity War Part II
    Theatrical Release Date: May 3, 2019

    IV. Phase Four
    Unassigned Slots: May 1, 2020, July 10, 2020, August 7, 2020, and November 6, 2020

    Spider-Man: Homecoming 2
    Theatrical Release Date: July 5, 2019
    Sources: DL 12/9/16,

    Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
    Sources: CB 4/17/17,

    Inhumans
    Theatrical Release Date: To Be Determined
    Formerly: November 2, 2018; July 12, 2019

    V. Considered

    Ka-Zar

    Luke Cage

    Cable

    Iron Fist

    Nighthawk

    Vision

    Dazzler

    Power Pack

    S.H.I.E.L.D.

    Punisher

    Blade

    Black Widow
    Script written by Nicole Perlman (At least 2 drafts, before Thor)
    Source: CBR 8/2/12,

    Hawkeye
    Source: CBM 5/16/16,

    War Machine

    Nick Fury

    The Incredible Hulk Sequel
    Source: 5/1/12, 5/1/14,

    2. Television
    Sources: Collider 3/20/12, Collider 7/23/11, io9 7/23/11, Collider 10/14/10, CBR 1/10/13,

    -Active Production
    ABC

    Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

    Marvel's The Inhumans

    Season 1
    Premiere: September 1, 2017, September 29, 2017

    ABC.com

    Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Slingshot

    Freeform


    Cloak and Dagger
    Premiere: Winter 2018

    New Warriors
    Premiere: 2018

    -Pilot Order

    Damage Control

    -Rumored


    John Ridley project
    Sources: CBR 4/17, AV Club 8/5, CBM 1/10/16, CB 1/10/17, CB 1/10/17, CBR 4/6, CBM 7/28,

    Ms. Marvel
    Sources: CBR 4/17/15, CBM 4/19/15, CBM 7/28,

    2nd Comedy
    Sources: CBR 1/11/16,

    Captain Britain
    To Be Pitched in 2017
    Sources: CBM 3/22, McAvoy 3/23, TVLine 3/23, CBR 3/24, McAvoy 5/1, McAvoy 5/1,

    'Jessica Jones-Esque' Show
    Source: CBR 8/24/17,

    -Canceled

    Agent Carter
    Home Entertainment Release: September 18, 2015 and December 5, 2016 (U.K.)

    -Not Greenlit
    ABC Family

    Mockingbird

    Premise: The life of Bobby Morse, a freshman at a prestigious university in Silicon Valley, who is a science major and is recruited by S.H.I.E.L.D. and forced to become a student by day and a super-spy by night.

    ABC

    The Punisher

    Premise: One man waging his own war on crime. Frank Castle, a rising star detective with the New York Police Department who moonlights as the vigilante Punisher, seeking justice for those the system has failed.
    Executive Producer: Ed Bernero
    Source: Spinoff 10/20/11, Spinoff 5/16/12

    Marvel's Most Wanted

    -Possible/Considered

    Heroes for Hire
    Premise: Ex-con Luke Cage offering to take on bad guys for a price

    The Eternals
    Premise: A race of superpowered beings live amid humanity in secret, inspiring legends

    Agents of Atlas
    Premise: A superhero team comprised of Gorilla-Man, Jimmy Woo, M-11, The Uranian, Namora, and Venus

    The Hood
    Premise: A low-rent criminal discovers a cloak that gives him superpowers

    Ka-Zar
    Premise: A Tarzan-type and his saber-toothed tiger must journey to the concrete jungle to seek justice

    Daughters of the Dragon

    Premise: A dynamic female duo, one with a bionic arm and the other a granddaughter of a samurai, open a private-detective agency

    3. Marvel One-Shots
    News & Discussion

    4. Netflix
    News & Discussion
    News & Discussion Part 2
    News & Discussion Part 3

    Daredevil Season 1
    Premiere: April 10, 2015
    Home Entertainment Release: October 3, 2016 (U.K.), November 8, 2016 (U.S.)

    Jessica Jones Season 1
    Premiere: November 20, 2015
    Home Entertainment Release: December 5, 2016 (U.K.), August 22, 2017 (U.S.)

    Daredevil Season 2
    Premiere: March 18, 2016
    Home Entertainment Release: May 15, 2017 (U.K.), August 22, 2017 (U.S.)

    Luke Cage Season 1
    Premiere: September 30, 2016
    Home Entertainment Release: November 27, 2017 (U.K.)

    Iron Fist Season 1
    Premiere: March 17, 2017

    The Defenders Season 1
    Premiere: August 8, 2017

    The Punisher Season 1

    Jessica Jones Season 2

    Daredevil Season 3

    Luke Cage Season 2

    Iron Fist Season 2

    5. Hulu

    The Runaways
    Premiere: November 21, 2017

    6. Comics

    Marvel Cinematic Universe Comics News and Discussion

    7. Non-MCU Marvel Properties

    A. Television

    -Not Greenlit
    ABC


    The Hulk
    Executive Producers: Guillermo del Toro and David Eick
    Premise: The original story with Bruce Banner being in his mid-20's, focusing on the love story between Banner and Ross and how they are brought together and continually torn apart by the monster inside of him.
    When: A possibility for the 2013-2014 season
    Sources: Deadline 11/15/10, CBR 5/15/12, CBM 7/19/12, CBM 1/8/13.

    B. Movies

    I. Columbia Pictures/Sony

    The Amazing Spider-Man 2
    Talkback Thread
    Release Date: May 2, 2014

    The Amazing Spider-Man 3 (CANCELLED)
    June 10, 2016

    The Amazing Spider-Man Spin Off Movies (CANON TBD)
    May 4, 2018

    Venom (CANON TBD)
    October 5, 2018

    Sinister Six

    Silver and Black (CANON TBD)
    October 2018

    Kraven the Hunter (CANON TBD)

    Mysterio (CANON TBD)

    II. 20th Century Fox
    See X-Universe Thread

    Conversation continued from the previous installment of this thread!

    In today's news:

    6/29: Feige confirmed he almost cast Jason Statham in a movie. He could not make it because of his schedule then the next day, Statham called Feige's cell and told him "sorry it didn't work out, maybe next time." Stark contrast from those Bullseye rumors.

    6/30: Gunn was interested in a Hulk & Red Hulk movie.
     
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    The only kind of Hulk/Red Hulk movie I could see happening is basically Thor Ragnarok if the two leads were constantly trying to smash and kill each other :p.

    I guess one benefit of Banner being in space now is that Ross can't sic what's left of The Avengers after him with his new jurisdiction over the team...
     
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    Feige unveils a plan of Spidey throughout this "Phase":

    http://m.torontosun.com/2017/07/01/spider-man-star-tom-holland-says-no-to-venom

    This does seem to shed light on the possibilities of the Venom and solo villain Spider-Man films.

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    I wonder, is a five-story journey as part of his continuous development as Spider-Man or will we chronologically see Peter dealing with the end of high school and the events of the Avengers 2019 o_O?

    Though it is kind of interesting that Spider-Man, despite the rights issue, is being setup as such a focal point in the MCU...
     
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    Well didn't we already know that they were now going to be totally separate and not involve anyone in the MCU? This just seems to just be clairfying that point again. Probably because... I hate to say this because it sounds mean but I have a feeling Amy Paschal or the Sony team had this deal in mind and was trying to sound vague or lie a bit about it connecting to the MCU in order to attract more fans or get more attention this film using the MCU connection that would generally interest more people then these movies would get without them. And maybe were hoping a deal could be reached to connect them and still have their crew work on the movie when yeah obviously that isn't going to happen. Really feels like Tom and Kevin are just trying to further do damage control on this rumor just to clarify "what Sony's doing has nothing to do with us and takes place in their world." And again part of me does feel Sony was trying to say otherwise just for more attention which does look pretty pathetic on their parts but again don't know the specifics and does feel wrong to unfairly gossip on someone if that doesn't wind up turning out to be true but again that's just what it feels that was like.

    Well you have to remember now that the MCU has Spider-Man and obviously not all but a good amounts of elements from his world and want to use him. You also have to remember he's likely being set up as such an important member not only due to how popular the character is but likely is going to be one of the big connecting factors going forward since it's more then likely a lot of the founding Avengers like Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk etc wont' really be in the MCU after Avengers 4. Whether they die in that movie or just are unable to be heroes anymore or the actors just no longer agree to sign on for any movies, pretty clear the line up is going to be shaken up. And more focus is going to be placed on the new heroes like Doctor Strange, Black Panther and Captain Marvel. As well as someone like Spider Man who has that instant connection with people some of the other heroes may not have and thus will be quite important to the movie universe going forward. Thus him getting such a big push now.
     
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    It's a good thing people like Tom Holland, because it seems that he'll be a big presence in phase 4 and beyond.
     
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    And it's a good thing Holland's still young, because they're probably going to get as much mileage out of him as they can :p.
     
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    I can't imagine iconic (and huge moneymaking) characters are going to be just written off. If anything they'll just start using the versions in the comics: Jane Foster as Thor, Riri Willaims as Iron Man, Amadeus Cho as the Hulk, and Sam Wilson taking over the role of Captain America.

    I guess this sheds a little more light on the new Avengers team in the new season of the cartoon. Hopefully this means Kamala will appear in a few years.
     
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    Which basically means Feige has given up on it in the vein of Daredevil, Ghost Rider, and Inhumans. Oh well.



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    Well I wouldn't say in the vein of those properties. As Daredevil, Ghost Rider and Inhumans are still in the MCU. Not the main movie verse but the TV series/Netflix verse which is still part of the same universe even if one won't directly acknowledge the others. Plus Inhumans as problematic as that property became it was never a "the rights belong to another studio" issue on why they haven't gotten made. No I'm pretty sure what the implication here is that if given the opportunity, Feige and the rest of the MCU would put the Fantastic Four in the movies... but they aren't going to make a deal with FOX about them as the FF aren't Spider-Man level popular where such a thing would still be profitable, for Marvel Studios. And again despite their various failures, FOX still doesn't seem willing to let go of the Fantastic Four and still at least says they're going to make movies with them. And technically they have until... about 2022 I believe to really start making a movie with them before they would officially loose the rights to the FF (as again Fan4stic was I believe had to be rushed into production in 2014 and was only about a couple of weeks away from Marvel reacquiring those rights) and obviously Marvel isn't going to make plans or think about characters they really can't use. So yeah until FOX officially reliquinshes the rights... well sadly IF FOX officially reliquinshes the rights, this again is pretty much the situation we're in:



    Except it's more "instead of Fan5stic it's another reboot this time aiming more at children starring the children off the FF" and "you know if directed by Patty Jenkins DC would be a much better alternative." Still though I am willing to be proven totally wrong, I can't see FOX making a good FF movie. Even if they now have gotten the X-Men right (and even that's kind of debatable) the FF are an obviously different story they still have a terrible track record with.
     
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    Well, I mean you no offense, but you're not disagreeing with me. Bottom line is Feige is stating they have no plans for them which means even if they did get the rights next year, there probably won't be a film. FOX is clearly foolish to hold on to an ip they simply tarnished. Even Sony let go of Ghost Rider, once the 2nd film just barely made its budget back.

    My personal opinion is FOX is moving in the direction to merge the FF universe with X-Men utilizing Franklin Richards. Scary thought; that "could" potentially work.

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    I was disagreeing with your point on him giving up on them in the vein of other properties you listed. As Daredevil, Inhumans and Ghost Rider are in the MCU in some form while Fantastic Four isn't. Though honestly if FF was let go of by FOX I think eventually Marvel would want to make movies with them since yeah when Marvel gets the rights back to characters they still use them in some form but it's not always movies. Again with Daredevil it was Netflix and Ghost Rider it was to Agents of SHIELD. I think FF would get a film but it's more "yeah we know we can't/likely won't be able to so aren't talking about it" not "we have the rights to these characters are just doing something else with them" like you were saying.
     
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    Well, I think there's alot of chatter about FF in the MCU. The idea of FF in the MCU is perfect, even the idea of Stark Tower being converted to the Baxter building (which does not make sense). FOX is really holding portions of the cosmic universe hostage to some degree. That probably is the other reason Feige doesn't want to suggest anything at all. He certainly does not sound against the possibility of FF in MCU proper. So, I understand your defense. To waste ancillary characters like Dr. Doom, Silver Surfer, and Galactus on a television budget would be just as retarded as FOX holding onto them with no real direction.

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    Their insistence on trying again with FF is as mind boggling as the Universal-Hulk debacle, I think we can all agree on. I thought House of Mouse might have more muscle to get them back because I'm pretty sure Disney prefers to have everything, not necessarily to use but to own, I've all but concluded the only way is they vastly overpay to take the full rights back.

    If they are shifting to the cosmic side of things Phase 4 and beyond, there's y'know a cooouple FF characters they could really use that an Ego-ian deal probably wouldn't be enough.
     
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    Keep in mind Ike Perlmutter is a real cheapskate I imagine he doesn't want to waste money on buying the rights back when he can just wait.
     
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    Yeah but Ike Perlmutter isn't in charge at all with the movies as he only heads the TV side of the MCU now. Thus why since Inhumans was a pet project of his he pushed so hard to get them a show when their movie was pulled. So he doesn't have any control on what the movies do or any rights related to that including film rights of other characters. I imagine that was a reason why the rights for other characters were kept in the hands of other studios for years but that's something he no longer has any control of. I'm guessing some other executives at Marvel could feel that way especially since maybe other studios think Marvel would could them a deal like they did with Sony even though that's with their most popular character and likely Marvel wouldn't do that with anyone else they don't fully own at this point.
     
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    7/28: Jeremy Latcham has left Marvel Studios to develop his own movies at 20th Century Fox.

    Take with salt but John Ridley is being linked to development of a long rumored Ms. Marvel TV show. I say salt because the source is Reddit
    8/4: Gunn confirms there's always talk about doing a Ravagers movie.

    8/5: Gunn confirmed there are scripts already in the works for the cosmic characters. He and Feige just had a meeting about it today.
     
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    Makes me wonder how many Cosmic movies they're planning once the Guardians have bowed out (unless they're succeeded by other Guardians), and I guess we can count Captain Marvel and her future adventures as part of that o_O.
     
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    Or the current Guardians might be getting solo movies. But yeah, I imagine the Avengers movies, Captain Marvel, and/or Vol. 3 will seed/introduce these cosmic characters he speaks of.
     
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