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Looney Tunes: Title Goofs, Altered endings, Dubbed Versions, etc. discussion

Discussion in 'Back To The Inkwell - Classic Cartoons Discussion' started by Dreth, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. DVDLooney

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    I can't really answer for Coot Cat, but I'd believe so, because I have the DVD Dubbed Print of the Cartoon.
     
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    @DVDLooney: Maybe, that theory about altered ending track is true, because some other shorts like "The Heckling Hare, 1941", "Count me Out, 1938", "Dog Daze, 1937" got in EU Prints altered ending track (with A WARNER BROS. CARTOON logo).
    Meanwhile: "A Feud There Was, 1938", "Hobo Gadget Band, 1939", "I only have eyes for you, 1937" and "Fox Pop, 1942" in EU Prints had their ending cards replaced. Instead of 1947-1948 Merrie Melodies Closing Logos, you can see 1937-1938 ones. Plus for "A Feud there Was, 1938" and "Hobo Gadget Band, 1939" and "Fox Pop, 1942" three of all got their ending music cue altered.
     
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    Same for "Dog Daze 1937" whose ending cue and card were replaced by the 1941-55 ending music and 1947-48 ending theme.
    Also, A Star is Hatched EU Print keeps the original 1937-38 ending cue (Confirmed on 2x2 dub audio), the USA print however used the 1938-41 ending theme. Same with the US Prints of Birdy and the Beast, Dog Tired, and Lights Fantastic.
     
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    There's a 2x2 Print of A Star is Hatched? Never heard the 2x2 dub audio because I have the DVD Print of that Cartoon.
     
  5. Dreth

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    The "LT+MM" folder has the 2x2 audio of "A Star is Hatched", the main video itself is a USA DVD Dubbed Print.
     
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    OK. I'll take a look, then listen to the audio.
     
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    European print is exist, I shared some cartoons for @Cool_Cat and he uploaded some of them into his MEGA account.
     
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    @NewBogus :) :) The PAL print of Cinderella Meets Fella had the Schlesinger card with the 1937 cue, unlike the NTSC one which has the original one.

    Many PAL prints, like What's Up Doc, Little Red Riding Rabbit and Falling Hare have the altered end music, unlike the NTSC ones.
     
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    1937 music ending cue, which should used in "Plenty of Money and you, 1937"? Lol.
    Aaagh, don't forget - the EU print of "Plenty of Money and you" has altered music ending track - Instead of 1937 original ending music cue, they used the 1938-1941 ones.
    I'll continue add other shorts on my dailymotion account.
     
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    If I haven't told you guys already;
    The Cat Came Back and The Old Grey Hare (Both EU prints) are the ones I know of to have both kept their original ending card, and with the dubbed notices there as well.
     
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    I know that already.
     
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    From another MM/LT goofs in Europe:
    1. Daffy Duck in Hollywood EU Print (in Polish and English Tracks aired on Boomerang) has altered opening music cue (1940-1941 season instead of 1938), like here:

    2. The Big Snooze in Polish dubbing has altered opening music cue (instead of 1946-1955 LT music opening cue, you can hear 1945-1946 LT music opening cue).
    3. She Was an Acrobat's Daughter in Polish dubbing has 2 seconds of altered music cue. Firstly you hear the 1937 MM opening, in the middle of opening they played the 1941-1955 MM music, after they returned to 1937 MM opening.
     
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    From what I've heard, the Dubbed version of "The Woods are Full of Cuckoos" has the 1941-45 opening music instead of the 1937-38 opening music. the USA Print keeps the original ending music over the 1937-38 ending, the EU print uses the 1938-41 ending music (Confirmed on a 2x2 audio track)
     
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    I couldn't confirm about it, because I hadn't seen that cartoon on TV Puls 2 with remastered print (only with Turner print on Canal+ in 90's).
     
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    I think its on the 2x2 dubbed audio track of it. (On "MM+LT" torrent)

    Daffy Duck & Egghead, Have you got Any Castles, and Speaking of the Weather (Restored versions) have the altered ending audio (used the 1941-55 ending track). Reason being that the Turner dubbed audio may have been used during the restoration process, and "Have you got Any Castles?" having the lost scenes edited in during the restoration process as well.
     
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    I saw it (about The Woods are full of cuckoos). Trolling face ever.
    Other goof: TV Puls and TV Puls 2 air "Slick Hare" with incorrect opening card (used from "Rabbit Punch", 1948).
     
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    (Not a dubbed version but didn't the laserdisc print of "Bars and Stripes Forever" used the opening rings from "Gold Rush Daze"?, Both 1939 Merrie Melodies)
     
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    Yes.
     
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    And probably with the restored version of "A Wild Hare" (Not the laserdisc-restored version), The opening rings and shield look like to have been borrowed from "A Gander at Mother Goose"
    (Restored version on the left, and the laserdisc version of the right)[​IMG]
     
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    A wild hare was remastered in 2009, over a year after a Golden Collection 5 release.
     

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