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Looney Tunes: Title Goofs, Altered endings, Dubbed Versions, etc. discussion

Discussion in 'Back To The Inkwell - Classic Cartoons Discussion' started by Dreth, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. A-Cecil

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    So this means it looks like Lights Fantastic's dubbed version is one of those rarities that only exist as censored versions only in both USA and EU prints. I guess these are the three censored scenes from Light Fantastic's 1995 dubbed version (according to Cartoon Network/Boomerang USA airings on the Toonheads episode "The Musical Cartoons Of Friz Freleng"):
    1. The scene featuring Chinese people frantically reading Chinese print and speaking in Chinese very fast is cut.
    2. The scene showing people boarding a rickshaw tour bus was also edited via cropping so the Chinese rickshaw drivers couldn't be seen.
    3. During the end scene with the Egyptian cigarette ad, the last frame of the billboard where it shows a cheesecake picture of a redheaded woman posing in a green swimsuit is cut (While it may seem like an innocuous cut, frame-precise pausing reveals that the woman's green swimsuit is translucent enough to reveal her naked body).


    Other examples of 1995 Turner dubbed versions that only exist as censored versions only (in both USA and EU prints) include Baby Bottleneck, Crazy Cruise, September In The Rain, Confederate Honey, Aviation Vacation, Believe It Or Else and I Taw A Putty Tat. The 1995 dubbed versions of September In The Rain, Confederate Honey and I Taw A Putty Tat have been released censored on DVD as bonus features (NOTE: I Taw A Putty Tat's 1995 dubbed version was used for DVD versions of Bug Bunny Superstar, but is uncensored because it uses the original Superstar title cards plastered over the dubbed version titles and has the blackface gag edited in into the dubbed version).

    Apparently it seems as if that the dubbed version prints that exist only as censored versions in both USA and EU prints are edited to remove racial stereotyping (usually black stereotypes), except for Baby Bottleneck which was instead edited to remove an abrupt jump cut as seen in the original theatrical version (much like the USA dubbed print of The Heckling Hare). Two particular dubbed version shorts were edited (in both USA and EU prints) to remove other racial stereotypes: Crazy Cruise' dubbed version was censored to remove both black and Japanese stereotypes, while Lights Fantastic (as mentioned above) was edited to cut two Chinese stereotypes (something which is usually hardly ever censored on PAL masters) and a short risque gag (something that is usually rarely cut from post-1934* Looney Tunes shorts on TV broadcasts).
    [*NOTE: 1934 was when the Hays Code was passed, which did not allow inappropriate stuff like swearing and graphic nudity from ALL theatrical cartoons, including Looney Tunes and Betty Boop].

    1995 dubbed versions which were usually censored on Cartoon Network USA to remove suicide gags involving guns such as Tortoise Wins By A Hare, Cross Country Detours, Horton Hatches The Egg, An Itch In Time and Hare Ribbin however seem to exist uncut for both USA and EU prints. The USA dubbed versions of Tortoise Wins By A Hare, Horton Hatches The Egg, An Itch In Time and Hare Ribbin exist uncut on the Columbia House VHS tapes, while Cross Country Detours' USA dubbed version exists uncut as a DVD bonus feature.

    Two dubbed version shorts exist as a censored version only on the USA print, but their EU prints however exist completely uncut: The Heckling Hare (Willoughby's last line "Yeah!" muted out to cover up the original abrupt theatrical ending) and The Old Grey Hare (The original "shaking" end card has been plastered over by the 1947-1948 MM Dubbed card which doesn't shake, while the explosion could still be heard on the soundtrack though).

    And I guess TV Puls and Puls 2 which aired the restored DVD print of "Lights Fantastic" uncut must've used a new Polish dub done for the DVD release in 2008 rather than the 1995 Polish dubbing by Turner & Canal+ which had censorship and altered ending track.
     
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  2. NewBogus :)

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    It uses 1995 dub. I have it on my chomikuj
     
  3. Cool_Cat

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    Lights Fantastic was uncut in Italy though...
     
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    The 1995 print, or the remastered one?

    UPDATE: Okay, Lights Fantastic might have existed uncut on its EU 1995 print, since there were no changes in the audio (no audio plastered from the English Audio Track, except for Ending Credits, because the 1995 dub music cue mightn't fit for the original end card, which is quite odd, since Birdy and the Beast and Falling Hare on their remastered prints with Polish dubtracks retain the original ending music cue).

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    BTW: Did I share the list of shorts which were aired on TV Puls/TV Puls 2 restored? If not, here it is (in chronological order):

    1. Page Miss Glory, 1936 (GC6/PC2 transfer)
    2. I Love To Singa, 1936 (PC1 transfer)
    3. Now That Summer is Gone, 1938 (GC4 transfer)
    4. Cracked Ice, 1938 (GC4 transfer)
    5. Thugs With Dirty Mugs, 1939 (GC3 transfer)
    6. Naughty But Mice, 1939 (CJ: MC transfer)
    7. Little Brother Rat, 1939 (CJ: MC transfer)
    8. The Film Fan, 1939 (GC3 transfer)
    9. Sniffles and the Bookworm, 1939 (CJ: MC transfer)
    10. The Bear's Tale, 1940 (GC5 transfer)
    11. Tom Thumb in Trouble, 1940 (GC5 transfer)
    12. Bedtime for Sniffles, 1940 (CJ: MC transfer)
    13. Sniffles Bells the Cat, 1941 (CJ: MC transfer)
    14. Hollywood Steps Out, 1941 (PC2 transfer)
    15. The Brave Little Bat, 1941 (CJ: MC transfer)
    16. Rhapsody in Rivets, 1941 (PC3 transfer)
    17. Lights Fantastic, 1942 (GC6 transfer)
    18. Foney Fables, 1942 (GC5 transfer)
    19. The Dover Boys At Pimento University, 1942 (PC1 transfer)
    20. The Hare-Brained Hypnotist, 1942 (GC2 transfer)*
    21. A Tale of Two Kitties, 1942 (GC5/PC1 transfer)
    22. The Unbearable Bear, 1943 (CJ: MC transfer)
    23. The Wise Quacking Duck, 1943 (GC5/PC2 transfer)
    24. Tom Turk and Daffy, 1944 (PP: HH transfer)
    25. The Weakly Reporter, 1944 (GC6 transfer)
    26. Birdy and the Beast, 1944 (PC2 transfer)
    27. Draftee Daffy, 1945 (GC3/PC3 transfer)
    28. Trap Happy Porky, 1945 (CJ: MC transfer)
    29. Wagon Heels, 1945 (GC5 transfer)
    30. Book Revue, 1946 (GC2 transfer)*
    31. Hush My Mouse, 1946 (CJ: MC transfer)
    32. Mouse Menace, 1946 (PP: HH transfer)
    33. Roughly Squeaking, 1946 (CJ: MC transfer)
    34. Scent-Imental Over You, 1947 (LT: PLP: ZZoZZ transfer)
    35. House Hunting Mice, 1947 (CJ: MC transfer)
    36. What Makes Daffy Duck?, 1948 (PC2 transfer)
    37. Hop, Look and Listen, 1948 (S&HH: MM transfer)
    38. The Foghorn Leghorn, 1948 (PC2 transfer)
    39. My Bunny Lies Over The Sea, 1948 (GC1 transfer)*
    40. Scaredy Cat, 1948 (GC1 transfer)*
    41. Hare Do, 1949 (GC3 transfer)*
    42. Awful Orphan, 1949 (GC1 transfer)
    43. Porky Chops, 1949 (GC1 transfer)*
    44. Daffy Duck Hunt, 1949 (GC1 transfer)
    45. High Diving Hare, 1949 (GC1 transfer)*
    46. Bowery Bugs, 1949 (GC3 transfer)*
    47. The Windblown Hare, 1949 (GC3 transfer)*
    48. The Fast and The Furry-ous, 1949 (GC1 transfer)*
    49. Frigid Hare, 1949 (GC1 transfer)
    50. Bye, Bye, Bluebeard!, 1949 (GC3 transfer)*
    51. For Scent-Imental Reasons, 1949 (PC1 transfer)
    52. Boobs in the Woods, 1950 (GC1 transfer)*
    53. The Scarlet Pumpernickel, 1950 (GC1 transfer)*
    54. Homeless Hare, 1950 (GC3 transfer)*
    55. The Hypo-Chondri Cat, 1950 (CJ: MC transfer)
    56. Big House Bunny, 1950 (GC1 transfer)*
    57. An Egg Scramble, 1950 (GC3 transfer)*
    58. What's Up Doc?, 1950 (GC1 transfer)*
    59. All A-bir-r-d!, 1950 (GC2/T&S: FF transfer)*
    60. Golden Yeggs, 1950 (GC1 transfer)*
    61. Hillbilly Hare, 1950 (GC3 transfer)*
    62. The Ducksters, 1950 (GC1 transfer)*
    63. Bunker Hill Bunny, 1950 (GC1 transfer)
    64. Canary Row, 1950 (GC1 transfer)*
    65. Pop 'Im Pop!, 1950 (S&HH: MM transfer)
    66. Rabbit of Seville, 1950 (GC1 transfer)*
    67. Canned Feud, 1951 (PC2 transfer)
    68. Putty Tat Trouble, 1951 (GC1/T&S: FF transfer)*
    69. Bunny Hugged, 1951 (GC2/PC3 transfer)*
    70. Early to Bet, 1951 (GC1 transfer)
    71. Rabbit Fire, 1951 (GC1 transfer)*
    72. Room and Bird, 1951 (GC2/T&S: FF transfer)*
    73. French Rarebit, 1951 (GC2 transfer)*
    74. The Wearing of the Grin, 1951 (GC1 transfer)*
    75. Cheese Chasers, 1951 (GC2/CJ: MC transfer)*
    76. Tweety's S.O.S, 1951 (GC1/T&S: FF transfer)*
    77. Ballot Box Bunny, 1951 (GC1 transfer)*
    78. Drip-Along Daffy, 1951 (GC1 transfer)*
    79. Big Top Bunny, 1951 (GC1 transfer)
    80. Tweet, Tweet, Tweety!, 1951 (GC2/T&S: FF transfer)*
    81. Feed the Kitty, 1952 (PC1 transfer)
    82. Gift Wrapped, 1952 (GC2/T&S: FF transfer)*
    83. Water, Water, Every Hare, 1952 (GC1 transfer)*
    84. Beep, Beep!, 1952 (GC2 transfer)*
    85. Ain't She Tweet, 1952 (GC2/T&S: FF transfer)*
    86. Going! Going! Gosh!, 1952 (GC2 transfer)*
    87. A Bird in a Guilty Cage, 1952 (GC2 transfer)*
    88. Rabbit Seasoning, 1952 (GC1 transfer)*
    89. Don't Give Up the Sheep, 1953 (GC1 transfer)
    90. Duck Amuck, 1953 (GC1 transfer)*
    91. Bully for Bugs, 1953 (GC1 transfer)*
    92. Zipping Along, 1953 (GC2 transfer)*
    93. Duck! Rabbit! Duck!, 1953 (GC3/PC2 transfer)
    94. No Barking, 1954 (GC3 transfer)*
    95. Bugs and Thugs, 1954 (PC3 transfer)
    96. Design for Leaving, 1954 (DD: FF transfer in fullscreen)
    97. Claws for Alarm, 1954 (GC3 transfer)*
    98. Devil May Hare, 1954 (GC1/PC1 transfer)*
    99. Stop! Look! and Hasten!, 1954 (GC2 transfer)*
    100. Baby Buggy Bunny, 1954 (GC2 transfer)*
    101. Ready, Set, Zoom!, 1955 (GC2 transfer)*
    102. Lumber Jerks, 1955 (GC1 transfer)
    103. Speedy Gonzales, 1955 (GC1 transfer)
    104. Guided Muscle, 1955 (GC2 transfer)*
    105. One Froggy Evening, 1955 (GC2 transfer)*
    106. Broom-Stick Bunny, 1956 (GC2 transfer)*
    107. Rocket Squad, 1956 (GC3 transfer)*
    108. Gee Wh-i-z-z-z-z-z!, 1956 (GC2 transfer)*
    109. Deduce You Say, 1956 (GC1 transfer)*
    110. There They Go-Go-Go!, 1956 (GC2 transfer)
    111. The Honey-Mousers, 1956 (GC3 transfer)
    112. Three Little Bops, 1957 (GC2 transfer)*
    113. Scrambled Aches, 1957 (GC2 transfer)*
    114. Steal Wool, 1957 (GC3 transfer)*
    115. What's Opera Doc?, 1957 (GC2 transfer)*
    116. Birds Anonymous, 1957 (GC3 transfer)*
    117. Zoom and Bored, 1957 (GC2 transfer)*
    118. Show-Biz Bugs, 1957 (GC2 transfer)*
    119. Daffy Robin Hood, 1958 (GC3 transfer)*
    120. Whoa, Be-Gone!, 1958 (GC2 transfer)*
    121. Baton Bunny, 1959 (GC1 transfer)
    122. A Broken Leghorn, 1959 (GC1 transfer)
    123. The Last Hungry Cat, 1961 (GC3/T&S: FF transfer)*
    124. To Beep or not to Beep, 1963 (GC3 transfer)*

    *This short was aired by TV Puls in 2011-12.
     
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  5. Manuel Lobato Pozo

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    Did someone find the ending of the redrawn version of You Don´t Know What You Doin from 1931?
     
  6. Manuel Lobato Pozo

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    Here is the 1995 american black and white Turner dubbed version of Shuffle Off to Buffalo from 1933 with redrawn ending.:
     
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  7. Cool_Cat

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    @Manuel Lobato Pozo I'll send you A Great Big Bunch of You which was aired in the colored version on CN, but please stop asking other people. They're getting really annoyed. I'm the only one here who may do something to have them, and before I'll visit again the Rai archives it'll take me a few months due to family issues.

    Anyway, anyone from the US has the Cartoon Festival tapes? They're way too expensive to ship over here.
     
  8. Manuel Lobato Pozo

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    @Cool_Cat OK agreed! I did not want to disturb anyone A greeting! I´ll be waiting!
     
  9. luki

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    Gosh, This is a Darker Print!
     
  10. Manuel Lobato Pozo

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    Here is the redrawn 1995 Turner EU print of A Great Big Bunch of You from 1932.:
     
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    I have the "Porky Pig - Nothing but the Tooth" tape, but I don't know if you're specifically looking for that one.
     
  13. Cool_Cat

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    @Nodog I'm looking for all of them, but if you have that one it's great.
     
  14. Manuel Lobato Pozo

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    I have the video file 044 - 22 - B1 - A Great Big Bunch of You [ESP] (turner-colored).mp4 on?
     
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    Off-topic, but I ordered Porky Pig 101, it should arrive at the end of the month or the start of next one. Hopefully it will be OK.
     
  16. NewBogus :)

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    Credit goes to @Cool_Cat:
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    It looks for me, or not that Cracked Ice EU print was sourced from 2-strip Technicolor source?

    EDIT: EU Print of "She Was An Acrobats Daughter", 1937 has blue borders at the opening titles.
     
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  17. A-Cecil

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    Cracked Ice EU print is sourced from a 3-strip Technicolor print like the USA print, except that the difference in color correction on both prints could possibly be due to the NTSC-to-PAL conversion which gives an automated color correction in the EU print.
     
  18. Manuel Lobato Pozo

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    What´s did some Merrie Melodies has the turner colorized versions in spanish?
     
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    In addition to my post from few days (source: @Cool_Cat):
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    It seems that US and EU print of Lights Fantastic, 1942 were sourced from the same master.
    Meanwhile, Have You Got Any Castles?, 1938 EU print has no borders at the opening titles and censored.
     
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  20. Manuel Lobato Pozo

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    Hey,Cool_Cat! I found the redrawn version of Freddy the Freshman in spanish.
     
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