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"Jem and the Holograms" Series Talkback Thread

Discussion in 'Saturday Morning Forever!' started by zoombie, May 28, 2011.

  1. Vaporleaf

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    What a downer for the last episode.:sad: It's almost as bad as the kids in Dungeons and Dragons never making it home.

    No Jem/Jerrica revelation, no choosing between Rio or Riot, no reason for the Misfits to call it truce... I kinda want another Jem show now, one that could finish these characters stories and give them justice. I don't get why they decided the last episode would be about Ba Nee finding her father. Well, at least it wasn't a bad episode in itself.
     
  2. Mandouga

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    The show's second run has now begun on The Hub, and watching the episode, I noticed something. There was an African-American girl (not Leila) who had a hairstyle a little similar to Shana's. Was this a prototype version of Krissie?

    Also, I finally visited the TV Tropes page for the show, and I learned a couple or so interesting things. Apparently, The Misfits were originally going to be even worse than the ones we ended up getting. They would have been more "sociopathic" according to the article; willing to betray each other at a moment's notice to advance their own careers, and their songs would have been the "anti-moral" opposite of what Jem and the Holograms' songs were teaching.

    There were also appeared to be plans for a revelation in which:


    Ironically, it seems there were plans for a fifth Misfit to be added after all. Her name would have been "Graphix".

    I get the feeling that if Hasbro hadn't abruptly(?*) discontinued the toyline, we probably would have gotten more episodes...

    *I don't really know if it was abrupt or not. That's the impression that I had gotten.
     
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  4. BonnieB21:-)

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    I'M BACKKKK!!!! & The Many Faces/Voices of Riot & That Old Houdini Magic

    It's funny that you should mention David Coverdale. Someone made a fan video of Jem/Riot to Whitesnake's "Is This Love?" mentioning the resemblance to Riot David Coverdale has. Plus Coverdale sounds quite a bit like Riot. I didn't post it because it had a lot of spoilery images from "The Day The Music Died". I never thought about it in all these years until I read the description, but the both of you are right.

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    But now that all the episodes have aired. Here's a link to it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvghaMHovFw

    Fun Fact: Townsend Coleman was Riot's speaking voice. He also played The Tick on The Tick, and Colt of Saber Rider & The Star Sherriffs. Riot's singing voice was thought to be Ford Kinder for many years (the writing partner of Anne Bryant- they wrote all of the songs on JEM and the original Transformers theme). Now we know Riot's singing voice was Gordon Grody. There's half a dozen GG songs on you tube, but my favorite is "How About Me?" a 1977 disco anthem. Sooooo cute.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veddm55pf8g


    That Old Houdini Magic by Jina Bacarr

    Yes, Astral is a doll that would've been produced in 1988 had Hasbro not blinked to Mattel's challenge.

    http://pranceatron.com/jem/astral.htm

    I like to consider myself an armchair Houdini expert (having sat through 3 of his TV movies ;)). Jina Bacarr must've brushed up on her Houdini history (or doesn't know anything about him!).

    Historical Context Time: Harry Houdini was a skeptic of spiritualism, psychics, palm readers, and communication from beyond the dead. He worked to expose fradulent mediums when he wasn't performing. Just like Astral exposed the fake medium Rapture who claimed to be channeling Houdini. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (writer of the Sherlock Holmes mysteries) believed in spiritualism and they had a friendly rivalry/debate on the merits of paranormal phenomenon. You can see their relationship play out in the movie "Fairytale: A True Story". Where both men work to prove/disprove whether or not the Cottingley fairies exist.

    http://www.wildabouthoudini.com/2011/01/look-back-at-fairytale-true-story-1997.html

    This is a movie that could definately be shown on The Hub.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_1q1YBCjwI

    Having said all of this, anyone who knows ANYTHING about Harry Houdini would know that there's no way that he would come back from the dead and speak to Mrs. Farnsworth through Rapture. He always wanted to prove that someone could communicate from the other side. He'd wanted to speak to his dead mother. In one of his TV movies, his wife held a seanace 20 years after his death and they had a secret code so that she'd know it was him. It didn't work.

    But that just goes to show you how much research goes into JEM whether it's Houdini or Jean Couteau's La Belle et La Bete. They did their homework.

    "Believe/Don't Believe" and "Mind Games" are awesome. I totally expected that "She's Got The Power" to be reused.

    News Flash: Samantha Newark interview http://www.movieweb.com/news/exclus...olograms-the-truly-outrageous-complete-series

    And speculation on Hasbro's NY Comic-Con JEM announcment.

    http://www.movieweb.com/news/exclusive-is-jem-and-the-holograms-getting-a-live-action-movie
     
  5. zoombie

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    Interesting news that even Samantha is adecepating a big Jem announcement. We will see what happens, who knows we might have a brand new Jem cartoon on the Hub.

    Tomorow the DVDs are released, I have tried to stay from the spoiler reviews. I hope the extras are good.
     
  6. BonnieB21:-)

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    Lin-Zee TV News Flash: Cast Of JEM Speaks

    Happy JEM DVD-uesday!

    Here's a bunch of interviews from Britta Phillips (Jem singing voice), Samantha Newark (Jem/Jerrica's speaking voice), Christy Marx, and Patricia Alice Albrecht (Pizzazz's speaking voice).

    MTV Geek's website is practically JEM"s second official home page! Besides the interviews, there's also a bunch of JEM music videos too.

    http://geek-news.mtv.com/2011/10/07...-were-better-the-patricia-albrecht-interview/

    http://geek-news.mtv.com/2011/10/04/jems-singing-voice-speaks-the-britta-phillips-interview-video/

    In the Christy Marx interview you get a little side helping of Spiderman & His Amazing Friends with your JEM. She wrote several episodes of SMAHAF along with solo '80s Spiderman. Her most famous episode is "A Firestar Is Born".

    http://geek-news.mtv.com/2011/10/03...-christy-marx-on-her-truly-outrageous-series/

    http://geek-news.mtv.com/2011/07/21/jem-rocks-her-way-to-dvd/

    http://geek-news.mtv.com/tag/jem-and-the-holograms/

    It's not at all suprising that MTV is interested in JEM (and not just because it reminds the Television channel of it's Music roots :p).

    Fun Fact: On the backs of boxes of JEM merchandise there were JEM-Star points that you could use to redeem for mail in products. One of the mail offer products was a doll sized MTV satin tour jacket! It never appeared on the show.

    Personal Fun Fact: My sister won an actual MTV satin tour jacket from the John Cougar Melloncamp "Little Pink Houses" contest. I think, the grand prize was that John Cougar comes to your house, plays a concert, and paints your house pink. I would've gotten a Jem MTV jacket, if I'd know she was gonna win :sweat:!

    http://www.oocities.org/hollywood/academy/7028/mailins.html

    JatH, The Misfits, & The Stingers music videos.

    http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/697646/jem-and-the-holograms-twilight-in-paris-music-video.jhtml

    There are 4 side by side Kid Rhino/Shout Factory DVD comparisons on youtube. You can search for them all, but I'm only posting the first one featuring "Love Is Doing It To Me". One of the brightest and most colorful JEM videos EVER! You can see a clear difference between the 2.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKnLciHir-s

    Finally, here's Britta Phillips and her husband Dean (who are a singing group called "Dean & Britta" shocking!) singing "Let's Ride" on Yo Gabba Gabba. Wow, "Love Is Doin' It To Me" and "Let's Ride" look like they were separated at birth!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8m7r35O9vg
     
  7. Mandouga

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    Interested, how? Interested in airing reruns of the original show (which The Hub is currently doing), or interested in doing a new version? If it's the latter, I can't and won't support it for anything, because first off, it's a family franchise (MTV? Why not Nickelodeon?). Second, it would likely just be another in-name-only drama with the stereotypical (teen?) angst that comes with it. In other words, it would likely just be another Naked Brothers Band or Big Time Rush (except for older viewers). Oh, and of course, there's a third reason too: MTV needs to be focusing more on showing music videos, but I don't want to derail this thread, so I won't get into that.

    The original show did the "music video" segments as a tie-in to MTV's then-rising popularity, but for MTV to do a new Jem series, that would not count as bringing things full circle due to the reasons above, especially with the way MTV is now. In any case, as I've said before, I don't think it would be a good idea at this time to do any new Jem TV series or movie, animated or not. If Hasbro were to bring Jem back, I think just a toyline (maybe even with new CDs of Jem music) would be enough, IMHO.
     
  8. BonnieB21:-)

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    MTV's JEM???? Not!!!!!

    I hadn't really thought of the idea of MTV wanting to remake JEM. The only connection the 2 share is the font on JEM's music videos and the satin tour jacket.

    I agree, MTV'S JEM would be HORRIBLE, especially considering that MTV can't do an original programming without it appealing to the lowest common denominator (sexual promiscuity, toilet humor, violence, cursing). If this were 1992 and the MTV that made Daria was in charge, it would be a whole other story. The only live action program of MTV's I've actively liked was the TV movie and series 2ge+er about an up incoming boy band. BTW, a long time ago, both VH1 AND MTV ran reruns of the Jackson 5 cartoon. I used to think that one day JEM might re-air there.

    2ge+her's "Calculus/ You + Me = Us"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrwl6a4-lSg

    I think MTV Geek's main focus on JEM is because some of the writers are JEM Fan Girls. They also cover Young Justice, Thundercats, and Voltron too and they certainly aren't going to make shows out of them. I wonder how old the blog writers are, MTV's Audrina Patridge of The Hills was recently on the back page of People magazine talking about how JEM's her earliest memory. And she's 25 years old, the exact same age as JEM!
     
  9. zoombie

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    So Patrica did a lot of swearing in the recording studio. Makes me wish they did a blooper and outtakes reel. I loved it when they did that in the last Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. If she knows how to do voice over work over pre done animation, Patrica would fit right in at Funimation.
     
  10. BonnieB21:-)

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    Queens Of Rock 'N Roll

    Better late than never.

    "The Princess And The Singer" borrows its plot from the book "The Prince And The Pauper" by Mark Twain.

    "Here Comes Trouble" by JatH comes off as a Misfits song/video. It features The Misfits terrorizing JatH, a giant sized Pizzazz causing trouble, and JatH looking scared/unhappy.

    Good thing Kimber got all that extra swim coaching from Steve in "Hot Time In Hawaii", she sure needed it with her daring cliff dive. Perhaps she picked up some stunt training from Jeff in dealing with that fall from the roof. I love both of those cliff hangers.

    Here we have Morgan Lofting (The Baroness of GI Joe) as Lexa Audriana's schemng aunt. She's the badder gal here- The Misfits/Eric were perfectly happy to go along with her plan to get rid of Kimber if they got the royal command performance. But when she warned them to stay away, cause she was going to kill everyone on stage (and possibly a bunch of Morvanian nobles in the first few rows), they do the right thing (which makes them Super Stars) saving the day. If the Misfits were complete monsters, they would have gotten on a plane going back to the U.S. leaving JatH to their fates. And poor Kimber would've become (to borrow from another literary classic) "The Rock Singer In The Iron Mask".

    As for Audriana and learning Jem's secret, she has some much going on in her own life. She has no time to worry about Jem, besides she didn't get a very good look at Jerrica and was half asleep at the time.

    The kingdom of Morvania must be based on the real area of Eastern Europe called Moldavia. And Moldavia is possibly neighbors with Yugoslavia where Danse's parents are from. Dynasty had a very famous season finale cliff hanger where the entire cast was supposedly gunned down at a Moldavian royal wedding.

    To piggyback on Mandouga's MTV fears, we actually do know what MTV's JEM would look like. It would be the Electric Barbarellas. What's that? They are/were an all female pop music group/reality TV show on MTV this year. The leader of the group specifically mentioned JEM as an inspiration.

    How did you all get together and how did the show came about?
    Heather: I’ve been working on this for four years … I’ve always been a musician and wrote my own music while I was in cover bands. I’ve always loved working with people on music, so I came up with the idea that I wanted to start a girl band and do a show. I wanted to do something like Jem and the Holograms – something fun and colorful. I got a job at recording studios and got more involved in music, so I got in touch with great writers. That led me to write more of my own stuff. We had auditions and I did one-on-ones, and I picked each of the girls for different reasons on what they bring.
    Missy: MTV didn’t put it together. Heather did it all. We are different, but we get along really well. This is probably the most diverse group they’ll have. We keep it all about the music. It all happened naturally with us. I’m excited to see the show.

    http://www.celebuzz.com/2011-05-04/the-meet-greet-the-electric-barbarellas/

    They are bright, colorful, and color co-ordinated for your convenience. I tried staying up late to see an episode once, but went to bed thinking I'd catch a rerun. Only there never were any. MTV, however, doesn't support anything thats not Jersey Shore or 16 & Pregnant/Teen Mom. I've got 4 MTV channels on my digital cable and never seen that show on any of them.

    http://ebarbarellas.com/

    NEWS FLASH: Hasbro's NYC Comic Con's press release.

    JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS

    A ‘truly outrageous’ icon of the 80’s, Hasbro's JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS property retains a significant following to this day and JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS fans have been buzzing about the brand’s presence at New York Comic Con. As a branded entertainment company, Hasbro delivers its properties to fans in a variety of formats including the airing of the classic JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS series on The Hub television network. As a result, new fans and nostalgic fans have been tuning in to watch the classic pink-haired rocker, her band and their arch-rivals, THE MISFITS. Hasbro’s JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS presence at Comic Con will pay tribute to this iconic animated series with product such as the October 11th release of all three seasons on DVD for the first time, as well as items from the classic JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS line of soon-to -be-released licensed goods. The classic JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS series currently airs Monday-Friday at 7:30am and 2:00pm EST on The Hub.

    http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news...s-with-fans-at-new-york-comic-con-2011-10766/

    Now what does "soon-to-be-released licensed goods" mean? Dolls? DVDs? CD/Itunes soundtrack? T-shirts?

    Pictures of JEM's display.

    http://www.toyark.com/news/girls-toy-news-22/vintage-jem-display-at-nycc-pics-4869/

    http://toynewsi.com/index.php?itemid=17803

    Visit "The Truly Outrageous World Of JEM" podcast.

    http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=93860&cmd=tc
     
  11. Mandouga

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    More importantly, will this be a mainstream relaunch, or will these "goods" only be for older collectors? I kind of hoping it will be the former. Also, I'm not sure what they mean by DVDs though. I mean, the complete series and "season 1" (technically seasons one and two*) sets came out earlier this week.
     
  12. Dudley

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    I expect those t-shirts to be brand new. And expect a lot of those to show up at Hot Topic stores. I wonder if they're made for men sizes....
     
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    Gotta get something for that stuffy nose there, zoombie!;)

    I always approach remakes of 80s cartoons with some trepidation, after all, I have not been "pleasantly surprised" with even one remake I've seen so far.
     
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    She Makes An Impression, It's More Than Her Clothes

    NEWS FLASH: We Love Fine.com has a whole page of JEM T-shirts. Some of which were available at New York Comic Con.



    They have a really nice pop art Stormer one. Plus Shana scores a solo shirt with "I Love My Hair". I don't know how they both got solos, but Kimber and Pizzazz are sure to be mad.

    http://www.welovefine.com/search.php?orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=jem

    The Shana shirt is based off of the Seasame Street song of the same name.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enpFde5rgmw

    And yes Dudley, they have men's sizes!

    In case you're not following "NYCC Reboot thread", Hasbro released a little crossover comic called "Unit-E" that was basically a "What If" story. What If JEM/M.A.S.K./Inhumanoids/Mirconauts/Candyland/StretchArmstrong/etc all had to exist in the same universe and fight evil? What If? Synergy's the star of the whole thing. I'm not rehashing the whole thread. Just feast your eyes on the Jem/Jerrica comic book art. Now go read it.

     
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    So I guess this means there are no plans to bring it back (in an official, mainstream form) at this time? Not that I wouldn't want it to come back, it's just that I would only support it if it was done right.
     
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    JEM: The Comic

    I've been wondering would you all like to read a JEM comic book?

    The letter page in the "Unit-E" comic said:

    "If you like it and want to see more of it or something like it, be sure to let us know. And if you like the graphic novel format, please check out the
    many Hasbro licensed books coming out from IDW Publishing, Transformers
    G.I. Joe, D&D, and soon Magic: The Gathering."





    I would love to read a JEM comic. Even though a comic about music would
    be hard to describe. In fact, I'm kind of surprised in the year since MLP:FIM's
    skyrocketing popularity they haven't put out a comic book series. Imagine,
    a comic book with cute pony stories and wonderful art would be like a license
    to print money.

    Would anybody here be willing to let Hasbro know that you would support a
    JEM comic? The Joe and Trans-Fans have had continuing comics for years.

    It's JEM's turn now.

    It doesn't have to be "Unit-E JEM" it can be a continuation of '80s JEM.

    "Unit-E" is billed as a "HasLab Production" whatever that means. A good place to start talk of wanting a JEM, MLP:FIM, and/or Candyland comic would be the IDW comics forum page.

    http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewforum.php?f=4

    Or Hasbro's corporate media page.

    http:// http://www.hasbro.com/corporate/media/
     
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    Though a Jem comic would be interesting, there's one problem and thats the music. Just having the lyrics of the Jem and Misfits (if theyre included) songs wouldnt be very effective if you cant hear what the music sounds like (watch linkara's reviews of batman: fortunate son and nightcat to see the problem with music-based comics). I suppose the comics could have a password to a site which has mp3s of the songs, but thats about it. OTOH, having it focus more on the characters than the music would be very well done, as long as all the characters get equal focus and not just have Jem hog the spotlight.
     
  20. Mandouga

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    Additionally, even if it were to be a straighforward remake of the original series, we can't be sure it would stay true to the spirit of the original. I mean, you know how comic books can get sometimes. For instance, whoever writes it might decide to make it darker and edgier, which would include, but not be limited to: characters getting killed off, and stories addressing much more serious issues/topics; you know, the kind that the original show was smart enough to stay away from. For instance, remember Ba Nee, and how desperate she was to find her father? In the final episode, it was implied that she had contemplated suicide ("If I can't have my father, I don't wanna live anymore!"). For all we know, it might make it not only more direct, but it might blantantly portray her as actually trying to do it, with her either succeeding, or being prevented from doing it, but then placed on a suicide watch, possibly at a hospital, with even more drama following that and even (worst case scenario) overshadowing the rest of the story, and reflecting negatively on the franchise, Hasbro, and Christy Marx (who created the original story for the TV show). Heck, it might even flanderize the whole "Who is Jem/Who is Jerrica" aspect by blatantly portraying her as having split personality/disassociative identity disorder, and maybe even having her suffer a full blown identity crisis (i.e., "I don't know who I am anymore."), possibly even causing her to break up with Rio (who would probably be portrayed as finding out Jem's secret identity at some point).

    As a result of the above (and more), people (age notwithstanding) who had never heard of Jem prior to this (hypothetical) version might base their perception of the franchise on that, and thus might start criticizing the original show, thinking that this version of Jem is the "superior" one. Thus, the only way a comic book would work (assuming it would be a remake) is if it not only stayed true to spirit of the original show, but also reflected the sanctity, and boundaries of the original (and the franchise in general, for that matter) as well. I don't know about Transformers or G.I. Joe, but for Jem, idealism has to have some prevalence. For this reason, any other comic version would likely try to deconstruct all that, probably even moreso than any TV or movie remake (animated or not).

    I guess what I'm trying to say is, a comic book might not be a good idea either.
     

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