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Is there anyway Warner Brothers can get it's old magic back?

Discussion in 'The Warner Bros. Club' started by brickrrb2, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. brickrrb2

    brickrrb2 Active Member

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    Well friends,

    What do think?
     
  2. dth1971

    dth1971 Active Member

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    But Warner Bros. has good with Looney Tunes!
     
  3. SaneMan

    SaneMan Well-Known Member

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    Seeing how much WB relies on Cartoon Network for distributing their TV productions, and seeing how big-screen animation is in the tight-grip of Pixar and Dramworks, I really don't think WB will be returning to their old shape any time soon

    The emptiness of this forum speaks for itself
     
  4. Lemanic

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    The only solution would be if WB was a little less hectic with their copyrights. It's a corporate suicide mission to do what they're doing now these days. Censoring their stuff. Limiting their releases. Alienating themselves from their talent-rich fanbase (especially the internet-based one).

    It's a bummer that WB didn't caught DW before FOX did. That would've helped WB very much.
     
  5. SaneMan

    SaneMan Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, Disney does make the same mistakes, but they are at least able to distribute their own TV content, and still make animated features even without Pixar's involvement

    WB simply allowed itself to lose it's independence, as far as far as animation goes
     
  6. Zen Man

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    Well all is not completely lost for Warner's. As far as animated content goes; they still boast the largest library among the major studios. Some of their offerings consist of content from their own studio as well as Hanna-Barbera, MGM, DC Comics, Rankin Bass and others. Unlike Disney, I think Warner Bros. dropped the ball by not fully utilizing their animated content instead opting to go with only a select few (ex. Looney Tunes, Scooby Doo, Tom & Jerry). I get that the company wants to go with what's profitable, but they've missed out on potential franchises. They still have time, but there seems to be a lack of corporate synergy at Time-Warner these days.
     
  7. SaneMan

    SaneMan Well-Known Member

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    The biggest difficulty they may be facing with trying to utilize their full catalog of franchises would be finding a place to air them all

    As I said before, WB is nowadays completely dependent on Cartoon Network for airing their shows, and they have to pitch them along with every third-party studio
    On top of that, they have to compete for screen-time with CN's original shows, and every other acquired series
    This leads to situations like Green Lantern and Young Justice getting cancelled to make place for a new Batman show and the Teen Titans revival

    The only solution would be for WB to once again have their own animation network, but they seem to have given-up on that back in 2008
     
  8. SceneQueen

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    Nope, not with only crap cartoons coming out.

    They have to make new old stuff. :)
     
  9. brickrrb2

    brickrrb2 Active Member

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    Or bring the winning team of Tiny Toons and Animaniacs back
     
  10. Silverstar

    Silverstar Rock the Dragon

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    Not gonna happen. Those shows were co-produced by Steven Spielberg and Amblin Entertainment, Richard Stone and Rusty Mills have since passed on and most of the other people and animation houses behind those shows have long since moved on to other studios, companies, iterations and projects. TTA ended 18 years ago. A! ended 14 years ago. That era was fun, but it's over and it's not coming back.

    Believe it or not, Tiny Toons and Animaniacs weren't the be-all, end-all of WB animation. No show is.

    I think that instead of hoping that Warner recaptures their past, we should hope that they're planning ahead for a brighter future. All WB Animation needs is some dedicated people behind it who truly care about their library of characters and their legacy and aren't afraid to do new, bold, innovative and creative things with them.
     
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  11. Shawn Hopkins

    Shawn Hopkins TZ Member of the Year 2013

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    I disagree with your reasoning. The original creators don't have to come back to make a new Tiny Toons or Animaniacs show. There's nothing keeping these characters from being updated and revived for new audiences. Heck, Scooby Doo gets a new version every little bit. Scooby Doo, which screams 1960s with ever fiber of its being, is still popular with kids nearly 50 years later but the people who own it know the value of reinvention.
     
  12. brickrrb2

    brickrrb2 Active Member

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    Well something has to be done because most of the animators today are mediocre. Incapable of magic
     
  13. Lemanic

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    Not in deviantART. There's where there the talents are today. All WB has to do is to click on the internet button and write in www(dot)deviantART(dot)com and search for "Looney Tunes", "Animaniacs!" etc. There we have plenty of talents already in the first page.
     
  14. SaneMan

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    Chances are the fans of the originals will end up hating the new versions, simply for being new
     
  15. Silverstar

    Silverstar Rock the Dragon

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    IN YOUR OPINION. Kindly stop making broad generalizations and try to pass them off as facts when that's just how you feel. Also, animators aren't writers, producers or directors. Those are different jobs and are responsible for different things.

    Recent WB productions such as Thundercats, Green Lantern: TAS and Young Justice were all well animated and executed (unfortunately, they were more popular with adult fans than the kids whom Cartoon Network was trying to target with them, but that's a whole other can o' worms), the DC Nation shorts are diverse, unique and entertaining and shows such as MAD, Scooby-Doo: Mystery, Inc. and The Looney Tunes Show as well as the Scooby-Doo and Tom & Jerry DTVs are performing well with their target audience, regardless of how we older folks on message boards may feel about them. Again, Warner Bros. isn't in dire straits just because they're not doing what you personally want them to being doing right now.

    All the studio really needs is to make better use of the properties which they have under their belts and establish more corporate synergy with Turner Broadcasting, as long as they're going to continue to release their new works through Cartoon Network,. They're never going to be able to compete with the likes of Disney/Pixar or Dreamworks in the theatrical animated feature department, as those studios have a lock on that enterprise, and WBA has never been strong in the family movie genre anyway. Of course that doesn't rule out the possibility of new theatrical animated shorts airing alongside WB's mainstream features.
     
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  16. brickrrb2

    brickrrb2 Active Member

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    OK How come I'm always the bad guy in theses?
     
  17. Shawn Hopkins

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    Sure, but it's not for them. It's for kids.

    C'mon, if someone says something on a message board, it's their opinion. You aren't going to play the game of selectively deciding when people should put IMO in front of their statements, are you? Because it's a silly game.

    See, right here, you're saying that the studios should make better use of properties they have under their belts. Properties like, say, Animaniacs. Or Tiny Toons. Very popular cartoons that are ripe for a revival? Makes sense to me, so why are you being so hostile to brickrrb2's ideas?
     
  18. DarthGonzo

    DarthGonzo Fourteen Years!

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    "Dear Lord, no!" on Tiny Toons and Animaniacs ever coming back. I loved both shows, but too much has changed in childrens TV since those Spielberg/Warners shows went off the air. Those shows were a product of their time and too much has changed for revivals to recapture what these shows were all about. If classics like the Looney Tunes need to be stylized and urbanized to succeed in this world of shows like Adventure Time, Regular Show and Gumball, what chance do nostalgic shows from the '90s have. Animaniacs was a hit and it endures because of it's lightening in a bottle quality. Everything it needed to succeed it got: polished animation, the backing of one of the most powerful producers in Hollywood, full orchestras, the ability to fly over kids heads with references and innuendo they wouldn't get, etc. You wouldn't get any of that back if the show revived. You'd get a tamer, more watered-down show with a 21st century, simplistic design aesthetic.

    They don't make cartoons like those anymore, and any revival would end up being a halfhearted mess.
     
  19. Jenk

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    Don't worry about it. He does this to everyone.
     
  20. Pc-Famicom64

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    1.The show was 3 way Co-Production between Warners, Amblin and TMS (I did not do truck loads of research over the years for nothing, Yes there were other studios, but they were just ditch pots, TMS did have say on it and heres a link to prove it, translator needed 作å“紹介 , and theres more on TV Tropes included a staff picture with TMS' president at the time Yutaka Fujioka that came stright from Tom Ruegger's Blog seen here Cartoonatics: Warner Bros. Animation Staff -- circa 1990 ), plus most of the key staff are still at TMS (such as Toshihiko Masuda and Kazuhide Tomonaga) so there is no reason why TMS cant just replace the late Richard Stone with Takenobu Mitsuyoshi or Yuzo Koshiro for the music , plus (and the main reason, for Animaniacs' case), Toei is rebooting Sailor Moon, and TMS needs to compete angst them, this is the only way (Compete with a big come back with a even bigger come back).

    2. (For Tiny Toons' case) Yes it was as TMS will have gone out of business because of Little Nemo's Debt if it were not for Tiny Toons.

    3. It reasons like this why were 16 Trillion dollars in debt with China, why wast even more money when you can just do reboots which are far cheaper to do in the long run.

    Please understand that I do not what Korra to ape the animation industry, plus with Toei's Sailor Moon reboot TMS needs to do something bigger, either this or John K needs to gets into high gear with his Cans With No Labels project and needs to make more things beside bumpers.
     

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