"Grindhouse" Talkback (Spoilers)

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Rate this movie and post your comments (rating for the combined double bill)

  1. *****

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  2. ****1/2

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  3. ****

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  4. ***1/2

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  10. 1/2

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  1. Vyse

    Vyse New Member

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    See! Two great movies for one low price! Together in one smash explosive show
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    "Ladies, we're gonna have some fun." - Stuntman Mike ("Death Proof")​

    Release Date: April 6, 2007
    Studio: Dimension Films/The Weinstein Co.
    MPAA Rating: R for strong graphic bloody violence and gore, pervasive language, some sexuality, nudity and drug use.
    Directors: Robert Rodriguez ("Planet Terror") and Quentin Tarantino ("Death Proof")
    Starring: "Planet Terror" - Rose McGowan, Freddy Rodriguez, Josh Brolin, Marley Shelton, Michael Biehn, Jeff Fahey, Naveen Andrews; "Death Proof" - Kurt Russel, Rosario Dawson, Vanessa Ferlito, Tracie Thoms, Rose McGowan, Zoe Bell, Sydney Poitier


    Plot Summary:Quentin Tarantino ("Pulp Fiction," "Kill Bill") and Robert Rodriguez ("Sin City," "El Mariachi") team up to pay homage to grindhouse movies, or B-movies, of the 70s and 80s with a double feature. In the first film, Rodriguez's "Planet Terror," a breed of zombies infest a small town, and it's up to a gun-legged former go-go dancer named Cherry (McGowan) and her former boyfriend (Freddy Rodriguez) to lead the survivors against the invasion. In Tarantino's "Death Proof," we follow the exploits of Stuntman Mike (Russel), who kills lovely ladies with his car, literally. But, one group of potential victims (Dawson, Bell, and Thoms) decide to fight back. Before and inbetween the double bill are fake trailers made by Eli Roth ("Hostel"), Rob Zombie ("House of 1000 Corpses"), Edgar Wright ("Shawn of the Dead"), and Rodriguez himself.

    Official site: http://www.grindhousemovie.net

    Comments?

    I haven't seen any talkback thread, so I created one.

    Seen the movie earlier today. There weren't that many people at 12:30 PM, but they enjoyed it nonetheless (including some clapping at the end of the film). Plenty of laughter moments throughout (esp. during the fake trailers). As for me? PT and all the fake trailers were the high points, whereas DP need more car deaths and less talking.
     
  2. Greg1

    Greg1 Ness Vet

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    Planet Terror = Awesome
    The trailers = Awesome
    Death Proof = ... Complete buzz kill
     
  3. Ragebot

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    Let me guess, you're the same people who thought that Kill Bill Vol. 2 had too much talking right?

    Planet Terror met my expectations, but Death Proof surpassed them. I thought that it would've been a minor footnote in QT's career but no, it is genuinely one of his best films. And Kurt Russell was so awesome in it!

    Still, I would've traded it all to go see Werewolf Women of the S.S.!
     
  4. Lord Dalek

    Lord Dalek Uncreative Hack

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    I urge you all to go see Grindhouse while its still playing in theaters. I doubt the eventual dvd will capture the experience accurately of seeing a pair of films that look like they're falling apart in the process of being projected.
     
  5. RSNaco

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    Saw this earlier tonight and I must say that this is certainly one unique movie experience. The old-fashioned bumpers, the cheesy movie trailers (I'll never look at Thanksgiving, priests, or the Nazis the same way again!), the sneaky dodges around the sex scenes ('Missing Reel' cards and the classic film-burns-up thing? It may seem cliche, but it worked SO well), and the actual effects to the film itself to make it look like a run-down film are just a prominent part as the films themselves.

    When comparing the two, Planet Terror was a better section than Death Proof, hands down. There were just huge gaps in Death Proof that really seemed boring and pointless to the story as a whole (Way too much girl talk!), and when shown right after Planet Terror, which stays fast-paced and brutal once it gets going, really seems like a letdown. At least the long chase scenes make up for it, even though they were pretty tame overall. Maybe it would've been better if Death Proof was before Planet Terror? I think some of the viewing public will say yes. Even then, it doesn't detract from it all.

    It's the full experience that makes Grindhouse so amazing, not just the movies it's made from. If I may apply some of the style from one of the trailers...

    If you think... to miss... Grindhouse... while it's in... theaters... DON'T!
     
  6. Vyse

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    After seeing Grindhouse, I really want to see the inspirations to this movie. Vanishing Point, the original Gone in :60 (I haven't see the remake), the nazisploitation films, Faster Pussycat, and the horror films.

    Ragebot, I love Kill Bill Vol.2. But, the talk scenes didn't drag on and on and on and on...... Death Proof did with all that girl talk. The car sequences were awesome, it's just that certain scenes of dialouge we can live without.
     
  7. Eidan

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    Cute assumption.

    I loved Kill Bill Vol. 2.

    Death Proof was just a dull film overall that I had numerous problems with. Like the absolutely POINTLESS dialogue during the beginning of the second half, how Stuntman Mike's character was completely different in the second half than it was during the first half. And I hated how it abandoned the grainy film quality and numerous visual quirks that made Planet Terror an even more engrossing experience. The movie dragged, and was just pretty boring, especially the second half.

    Planet Terror was an all around awesome movie. Hilariously over the top, pretty cool action, and sexy women. Loved it.

    "That boy's got the devil in 'em."

    Planet Terror: 5/5
    Trailers: 5/5
    Death Proof: 2/5
     
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  8. Tapout

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    I loved Planet Terror, loved the trailers (and the not-so-surprising rumors that Thanksgiving is going to be made) and I'm on the fence about Death Proof. Of course the chases and crashes were awesome, but I think I'm gonna have to watch it again to decide on the dialog parts. They weren't bad, and I don't think there were too much of them, but it was definitely a far cry from the diner scene in Reservoir Dogs.
     
  9. Lord Dalek

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    I think QT's intent with Death Proof (or "Thunder Bolt", your choice) was to create a film that felt like two completely different films edited together (like They Saved Hitler's Brain). So you have this long prologue section that looks about as beat up as Planet Terror and then suddenly it does a complete 360 on itself and switches not only visual looks but film quality as well. Its a very sudden and visible jolt, like the second half of Psycho. As a result it may be the most Godardian film QT has ever made.
     
  10. Dirty Dawg

    Dirty Dawg Chinese Democracy starts NOW!

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    How's the trailer for "Halloween(2007)"?Is it good?
     
  11. Lord Dalek

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    Its online, look it up.
     
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    Just got back from a midnight showing, and I'm still pumped.

    Planet Terror was pitch perfect. I'm a huge fan of 70's and 80's schlock, and this part of Grindhouse was everything it could have possibly been. 5 stars, no doubt.
    I'd see a full length Werewolf Women of the SS. It's just too good a premise, and Zombie already showed me enough to get my ass back in the chair. Machete....I'd see Machete. "Don't" was the funniest damn part of the whole experience, and Thanksgiving convinced me Eli Roth needs to stick to comical horror as opposed to the crap he's doing now.
    Death Proof, on it's own, is a damn fine movie worth talking about. Problem is that 10 minutes into it, Tarantino forgot it was a Grindhouse movie, and went on making a Tarantino movie. If a 2+ hour version of this film exist's, I don't want to see it. Supposedly all the car footage was used, and I'd hate for the first half of it to be any longer than it was. I'm not saying it was bad, I'm saying it didn't fit in with everything else in Grindhouse. It was too modernized, and too clean looking. The dialog was all right, certainly not "Bob Dylan worthy" as Tarantino claimed it to be. When Rose McGowen's character finally gets in the car, the movie finally remembers it's a Grindhouse flick, then promptly forgets right after the crash. This half of Grindhouse just didn't live up to expectations, but in time I know I'll personally appreciate it more. But for now, if I hear another whiney chick talk about getting high, I'll stab out my own eye's.
     
  13. RSNaco

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    Okay, who else had the idea that if there's a next Grindhouse, they should make it from two of the trailer shown in this one? I could see any pairing of the four trailers given this treatment (Personally, I'm pulling for Thanksgiving/Werewolf Women of the SS). As long as the same framework is used, these movies could possibly be a series, but maybe I'm just dreaming and engrossed in the overall concept.
     
  14. DR.MID-NITE

    DR.MID-NITE The Original

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    Saw it last night. Loved Planet Terror and the trailers. Death Proof was good when it got going. But, seriously. What the hell was with the 20 minutes of useless conversation that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the plot?? Also, when Zoe is on the hood and he is smacking into her. Why not just slow the freakin car down and stop...Especially, after he spun out. You had time and you had a gun? :D

    Other than that...Nothing like looking at some hot chicks for over 3 hours. :D
     
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    Double R has stated that his next project after Sin City 2 will be a feature length version of Machete.
     
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    I'm not going to admit that the script for Death Proof was as tight as Pulp Fiction or Kill Bill. However, I do think that the dialouge did serve to distinguish the first group of women from the second group. I feel that the dialouge helped establish that these women would enjoy the experience of being chased by Stuntman Mike and also that they are the type of women who would want their revenge.
     
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    4.5 stars

    While I wouldn't call it a buzz kill, I would agree it's the weakest part. I didn't get into "Death Proof" until Kurt Russell showed up (I hope deleted scenes show more Russell). The second group of girls were much more entertaining. Also, Death Proof has a better ending than Planet Terror,IMO.

    I loved everything else, especially how there's more nudity in the trailers than in the movies themselves.

    And Eli Roth. Something about the guy bugs me.
     
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    I heard the exact same thing. Plus, he said he's planning on releasing Machete as a straight-to-DVD release here in the States and in theaters internationally.

    Speaking of the rest of the planet, here are some quick notes about the international realease(s) of "Grindhouse," which will probably be included in the top post:
    -Aussies will get the film next, starting on May 31, with the UK release the following day.
    -In many non-English markets, the film will be split into two, with "Death Proof" coming out first in June, with "Planet Terror" following 1-3 months later depending on where you live. This is due to the belief that many non-English markets don't understand what a double feature is.
    -As for the fake trailers in the split release, expect "Machete" to accompany "Death Proof" (released as "Grindhouse: Death Proof"). As for the others, we don't know. If you are one of those who are stuck with the split release, tell us what made it into what film.
    -"Werewolf Women of the S.S." will not be shown in Germany. It hasn't been confirmed or denied, but since the country hates its own crappy history enough to ban Nazi imagery, expect the land of BMWs and Oktoberfest to miss out on it.
    -Canucks scored an extra trailer in the form of "Hobo with a Shotgun," the winning faux trailer from the SXSW Grindhouse fake trailer contest.
     
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    I may be confusing this with Machete, but didn't this one have the pedophile dressed up as Santa? That was one of my favourite parts in the whole movie!
     
  20. Dr. Daedalus

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    This is a revolutionary movie. Everyone who loves movies needs to see it.

    Longer review: Wow, now THAT'S getting your money's worth. Kudos to Rodriguez and Tarantino for not only giving us two action-packed films for the price of one, but making them entertaining and, if that wasn't enough, completing the double matinee experience with deliberately cheesy bumpers and fake movie trailers. While I liked the films themselves, the trailers were the REAL highlight. My personal fave was "DON'T." And "Thanksgiving" was just so over-the-top gory that it was funny, too. So many scenes that weren't really connected by anything except... Thanksgiving.

    As for the films themselves. Even though I liked both, I have to go against popular opinion here and say that I liked "Death Proof" better. OK, so the film basically abandoned the grainy look and abrupt film splicing/cutting after 20 or so minutes (diminishing its vintage appeal a tad), and yes, the film tended to get bogged down by the talking scenes and the trademark (now getting to be a cliche) Tarantino "roaming camera around the table" stuff.

    But it didn't matter, because I was into the new cast of girls and when Kurt Russell made his second appearance as he terrorized them on the roads, I was on board. For the rest of the film my eyes were glued to the screen as these cars chased each other at high speeds. And then it became the ultimate "chicks get revenge" vehicle. And you know, I totally didn't see the plot twist with the first cast of girls coming,
    . All the so-called "slow stuff" before that didn't make me realize what was about to happen.

    As for "Planet Terror", it was mindless fun, yes, and the eccentric cast only helped matters, but... it was a zombie movie. And I'm not a zombie movie fan. That said, I think they did the best they could with the concept, and such stand-out scenes like the cook pretending he's dead, the "three needles" recurring theme, and of course, the machine gun leg, proved entertaining.

    Bottom line, they've really put together quite a film. It parodies the double matinee "badass" films, it wallows in the feel of those films while not exactly sinking to their level, it's a showcase of two talents in one package. Those 3 hours flew by.
     

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