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Discussion in 'Back To The Inkwell - Classic Cartoons Discussion' started by Kevin Mo, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. Kevin Mo

    Kevin Mo @Bugssponge

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    I think Detouring America has a good dubbed version, they restored the cut scene and the colors are awesome.

    What do you think? Its better than the original copy.

    List your favorite dubbed versions and worst.
     
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    The quality of dubbed versions following are measured with a score up to 100.
    Among pre-1948 cartoons not restored yet:

    Best (score of 76-100):
    The Unruly Hare [100]
    Along Came Daffy [100]
    Ain't That Ducky [100]
    Bone Sweet Bone [100]
    Count Me Out [100]
    The Cat's Tale [90]
    Detouring America [100]
    A Sunbonnet Blue [85]
    Dog Gone Modern [77]
    Double Chaser [96]
    The Sheepish Wolf [97]
    Catch as Cats Can [100]
    The Cagey Canary [100]
    The Crackpot Quail [88]
    From Hand to Mouse [95]
    Good Night Elmer [95]
    Elmer's Pet Rabbit [95]
    A Star is Hatched [96]
    Billboard Frolics [78]
    I Wanna Be a Sailor [100]
    Land of the Midnight Fun [95]
    Love and Curses [98]
    Cinderella Meets Fella [98]
    Ain't We Got Fun [86]
    Country Boy [76]
    Hiss and Make Up [87]
    I Wanna Play House [80]
    Streamlined Greta Green [81]
    Screwball Football [77]
    Hobo Bobo [94]
    One Meat Brawl [90]
    Little Blabbermouse [92]
    Mexican Joyride [100]
    The Sneezing Weasel [90]
    Hobo Gadget Band [88]
    The Rattled Rooster [97]
    What's Brewin Bruin [100]
    Doggone Cats [100]
    A Hick, A Slick & A Chick [99]
    The Gay Anties [85]
    Busy Bakers [83]
    Stage Fright [92]
    Shop, Look & Listen [95]
    Let It Be Me [89]
    Holiday Highlights [95]
    The Bird Came COD [91]
    Aloha Hooey [97]
    Fox Pop [84]
    Greetings Bait [78]
    Snowtime For Comedy [97]
    Nothing But The Tooth [80]
    Bingo Crosbyana [87]
    Toy Town Hall [77]
    The Squawkin Hawk [91]
    Fin N' Catty [83]
    What's Cookin' Doc (minor split-cuts) [98]
    Brother Brat [89]
    Behind The Meatball (screen has a rain of dust visible) [96]
    Hamateur Night [92]
    A-Lad-In Bagdad [92]
    The Merry Old Soul [78]
    Flowers For Madame [85]
    Fagin's Freshman [91]
    The Foxy Duckling [90]
    I'd Love To Take Orders From You [88]
    Snowman's Land [87]
    Two Gophers From Texas [90]
    Bug Parade [95]
    My Little Buckeroo [87]
    Ding Dog Daddy (leaning towards best and good) [76]

    Good (score of 51-75):
    Racketeer Rabbit [71]
    Daffy Doodles [62]
    Hold the Lion Please [73]
    Ceiling Hero (screen shakes) [70]
    Dog Daze [61 for USA print, 52 for EU print, total: 55]
    Circus Today [60]
    Of Thee I Sting [67]
    Meatless Flyday [73]
    The Eager Beaver (split cuts) [64]
    Fair and Worm-er (split cuts) [73]
    Slightly Daffy [74]
    The Lyin Mouse [52]
    The Good Egg [52]
    Egghead Rides Again [74 for USA print, 66 for EU print, total: 70]
    The Mouse Merized Cat [63]
    The Shell Shocked Egg [74]
    A Feather in his Hare [66]
    Tale Of Two Mice [71]
    The Goofy Gophers [67]
    Fresh Hare [68]
    Fresh Fish [64]
    I Taw A Putty Tat [70]
    Dangerous Dan McFoo [59]
    Quentin Quail [62]
    The Wacky Worm [64]
    Beauty & The Beast [53]
    A Feud There Was [58]
    Sport Chumpions [59]
    The Penguin Parade [67]
    Gold Rush Daze (leaning towards good and bad) [51]

    Bad (score of 26-50):
    At Your Service Madame (leaning towards good and bad) [50]
    Jack Wabbit and the Beanstalk [45]
    Peck Up Your Troubles [43]
    Little Orphan Airedale [42]
    The Mice Will Play [33]

    Awful (score of 0-25):
    Cross Country Detours [13]
    Hop, Skip and a Chump [0]
    Dog Tired [7]
    Saddle Silly [5]
    Plenty Of Money And You [0]
     
    #2 A-Cecil, Jun 23, 2016
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  3. A-Cecil

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    The quality of dubbed versions following are measured with a score up to 100.
    Among pre-1948 cartoons already restored (Note: Quality of dubbed prints are compared with the quality of older prints beforehand (Laserdisc, Cartoon Festivals, Oldest a.a.p. prints), not the restored prints)

    Best (score of 76-100):
    Acrobatty Bunny [100]
    Bugs Bunny Rides Again [100 for USA print, 97 for EU print, total: 99]
    Birth Of A Notion [100]
    Tortoise Beats Hare [98 for USA print, 100 for EU print, total: 99]
    A Gruesome Twosome [100]
    Mouse Menace [90]
    Hush My Mouse [96]
    Buckaroo Bugs [97]
    To Duck Or Not To Duck [89]
    Toy Trouble [95]
    Super Rabbit [97]
    Hare-Um Scare Um [88]
    The Wacky Wabbit [97]
    Thugs With Dirty Mugs [89]
    Bugs Bunny And The Three Bears [98]
    Easter Yeggs [98]
    Daffy Duck and the Dinosaur [100]
    Crowing Pains [100]
    Hare Trigger [100]
    Horton Hatches The Egg [87 for USA print, 96 for EU print, total: 90]
    Booby Hatched [99]
    Conrad The Sailor [91]
    Cracked Ice [100]
    Scent-Imental Over You [85]
    The Unbearable Bear [92]
    Hop, Look & Listen [96]
    Hiawatha's Rabbit Hunt [88]
    The Night Watchman (w/ recreated Blue Ribbon titles) [78]
    Bedtime For Sniffles [98]
    Sniffles & The Bookworm [89]
    Pigs Is Pigs [85]
    The Old Grey Hare [96]
    Wabbit Twouble [100]
    Hair-Raising Hare [100]
    Back Alley Oproar [99]
    Rhapsody Rabbit [99]
    Lights Fantastic [97]
    She Was An Acrobat's Daughter [98]
    Hollywood Daffy [96]
    Pigs In A Polka [83]
    The Aristo-Cat [96]
    Farm Frolics [90]
    Wackiki Wabbit [90]
    What Makes Daffy Duck [90]
    Buccaneer Bunny [93]
    Duck Soup To Nuts [82]
    The Bashful Buzzard (leaning towards best and good) [76]
    Birdy And The Beast (leaning towards best and good) [76]
    The Brave Little Bat [86]
    Daffy Duck Slept Here [94]

    Good (score of 51-75):
    Sniffles Takes A Trip (leaning towards best and good) [75]
    Slick Hare [67]
    House Hunting Mice [73]
    Baby Bottleneck [66]
    Trap Happy Porky [70]
    Have You Got Any Castles [70]
    The Wabbit Who Came To Supper [70]
    Roughly Squeaking [70]
    Tom Turk & Daffy [65]
    Tweetie Pie [67]
    Case Of The Missing Hare [73 for USA print, 66 for EU print, total: 69]
    Bugs Bunny Gets The Boid [61]
    Hare Force [74]
    Hare Conditioned [65]
    Little Red Riding Rabbit [73]
    The Heckling Hare [73 for USA print, 64 for EU print, total: 68]
    Daffy Duck In Hollywood [60]
    The Great Piggy Bank Robbery [68]
    Tortoise Wins By A Hare [71 for USA print, 55 for EU print, total: 63]
    Herr Meets Hare [58]
    Plane Daffy [70]
    Walky Talky Hawky [59]
    Hare Remover [72]
    Odor-Able Kitty [57]
    Life With Feathers [57]
    Sniffles Bells The Cat [74]
    The Trial Of Mister Wolf [73]
    Tick Tock Tuckered [70]
    The Up-Standing Sitter [67]
    Daffy The Commando [67]
    Hare Ribbin' [62 for USA print, 51 for EU print: total: 57]
    A Hare Grows In Manhattan [59]
    The Hep Cat [63]
    My Favorite Duck [58 for USA print, 56 for EU print, total:57]
    Yankee Doodle Daffy [58 for USA print, 52 for EU print, total: 54]
    Naughty But Mice [52]
    The Big Snooze (leaning towards good and bad) [51]
    Stage Door Cartoon (leaning towards good and bad) [51]

    Bad (score of 26-50):
    The Wise Quacking Duck (leaning towards good and bad) [50]
    A Tale Of Two Kitties (leaning towards good and bad) [50]
    Daffy Duck and Egghead (w/ recreated Blue Ribbon titles) [29]
    Gorilla My Dreams [40]
    Rabbit Transit [40]
    A Corny Concerto [33]
    Baseball Bugs [37]
    Nasty Quacks [29]
    A Pest In The House [28]
    I Got Plenty Of Mutton [28]
    Kitty Kornered [47]
    An Itch In Time [42]

    Awful (score of 0-25):
    Falling Hare [1]
    Hare Tonic [6]
    The Wild Hare [18]
    The Hare-Brained Hypnotist [22]
    The Stupid Cupid [6]
    Katnip Kollege [2]
     
    #3 A-Cecil, Jun 23, 2016
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    NewBogus :) Plastic Duck Saves the World

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    Wait, wait, wait... Daffy Duck and Egghead has the worst Dubbed print I've ever seen.
     
  5. Kevin Mo

    Kevin Mo @Bugssponge

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    Out of all I've seen

    I have only seen a few dubbed versions not all.

    Best:
    Shop, Look, and Listen
    Detouring America
    Land of the Midnight Fun
    Little Blabbermouse
    Tom Thumb in Trouble
    Sniffles the Egg Collector
    Ghost Wanted
    Good Night Elmer
    Holiday Highlights
    Wacky Wildlife
    Bedtime for Sniffles
    Of Fox and Hounds
    Birdy and the Beast
    The Unruly Hare
    Walky Talky Hawky
    Catch As Cats Can
    Bone Sweet Bone
    A Tale of Two Kitties
    The Wacky Wabbit
    Fresh Hare
    I Only Have Eyes for You
    The Fella with the Fiddle
    Sweet Sioux
    The Cat Came Back
    Herr Meets Hare
    I Wanna Be a Sailor
    A Day at the Zoo
    Bingo Crosbyana
    Toy Town Hall
    Let It Be Me
    My Little Buckaroo
    He Was Her Man
    The Coo-Coo Nut Groove
    She Was An Acrobat's Daughter
    Streamlined Greta Green
    Wabbit Twouble
    Sniffles Takes a Trip
    Naughty But Mice
    The Sheepish Wolf
    Fox Pop
    Ain't We Got Fun
    Busy Bakers
    Crowing Pains
    The Bear's Tale
    Tick Tock Tuckered
    Elmer's Pet Rabbit
    Dog Daze
    The Sneazing Weasel
    A Star Is Hatched
    Bars and Stripes Forever
    Ding Dog Daddy
    Fin N' Catty
    To Duck or Not to Duck
    Yankee Doodle Daffy
    The Wise Quacking Duck
    Buckaroo Bugs
    Russian Rhapsody
    Meatless Flyday
    Slightly Daffy
    Foney Fables
    What Makes Daffy Duck
    Tweetie Pie

    Good
    Hold the Lion, Please
    Double Chaser
    Case of the Missing Hare
    The Penguin Parade
    A Feud There Was
    The Night Watchman
    I'd Love To Take Orders From You
    Don't Look Now
    Hiawatha's Rabbit Hunt
    Little Blabbermouse
    Jack-Wabbit and the Beanstalk
    Love and Curses
    Cinderella Meets Fella
    A Lad In Bagdad
    Hare-um Scare-um
    I'm a Big Shot Now
    A Wild Hare
    The Lyin' Mouse
    A Sunbonnet Blue
    Sniffles Bells the Cat
    The Crackpot Quail
    Quentin Quail
    Toy Trouble
    I Taw a Putty Tat
    When I Yoo Hoo
    I Wanna Play House
    Thugs With Dirty Mugs
    Believe it or Else
    Hobo Gadget Band
    Dangerous Dan McFoo
    Snowman's Land
    Sioux Me
    Fresh Fish
    Fagin's Freshman
    Bugs Bunny and the Three Bears
    September in the Rain
    Egghead Rides Again
    The Mice Will Play
    Daffy Duck In Hollywood
    Count Me Out
    Dog Gone Modern
    The Curious Puppy
    Hamateur Night
    Elmer's Candid Camera
    The Hardship of Miles Standish
    Circus Today
    Ghost Wanted
    Ceiling Hero
    Good Night Elmer
    Peck Up Your Troubles
    Life With Feathers
    Racketeer Rabbit
    Holiday Highlights
    The Crackpot Quail
    The Trial of Mr. Wolf
    Rookie Revue
    Avation Vacation
    Rhapsody In Rivets
    The Bird Came C.O.D.
    Aloha Hooey
    Crazy Cruise
    Robin Hood Makes Good
    Cross Country Detours (leaning towards good and bad)
    Hop, Skip, and a Chump (leaning towards good and bad)
    At Your Service Madame (leaning towards good and bad)

    Bad
    Dog Tired
    Hare Tonic
    Saddle Silly
    Katnip Kollege
    Falling Hare
    Plenty of Money and You (worst one)
     
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    Note that for the scoring of the quality of dubbed versions some of them have two different marks because of the differences in color corrections in the USA and EU prints. However, to even out the marks as one, the marks are rounded off to midway between the USA and EU prints.

    Both Hop Skip and a Chump and Plenty Of Money And You receive 0 marks because these are the worst-looking dubbed versions I've ever seen.

    Some dubbed versions, such as Detouring America, Catch As Cats Can, Mexican Joyride and Acrobatty Bunny receive 100 marks because they are the best-looking dubbed version prints I've ever seen.
     
  7. Kevin Mo

    Kevin Mo @Bugssponge

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    Well not really, I have never seen the dubbed of Early worm gets bird, flop goes the weasel, and the 4 Inki cartoons, so I cant put those on my list.

    Plenty of Money and You is the worst one, not in terms of quality, but color corrections, however, the cartoon is ok in general. The best one is probably Detouring America.

    But many of the unrestored cartoons use dubbed versions, I wouldn't count dubbed versions of restored cartoons.
     
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    Kevin Mo @Bugssponge

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    At Your Service Madame is another "bad" one to put on your list.
     
  9. A-Cecil

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    Just how bad does the dubbed version look? Is it that bad that it made the oldest a.a.p. print look better?
     
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    The colors look faded but I've never seen the AAP print as it is lost forever due to the LaserDisc release of that version.
     
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    Here's a comparison of screenshots of the Turner print (left) and a.a.p. print (right) of At Your Service Madame (1936).
    * Left: Turner (1995 dubbed version) print from TV Puls 2
    * Right: a.a.p. print from a Cartoon Network USA Checkerboard era bumper (Note: No full video of the a.a.p. version of At Your Service Madame exists anywhere on the internet, but I somewhat managed to find clips of the a.a.p. version used in one of Cartoon Network USA Checkerboard era bumpers, since these bumpers are made before 1995). Sorry about the low quality of the screenshot, though, because its recorded on a VHS tape.
    aysm dubbed vs old.png
    Now we get to compare the quality of At Your Service Madame's Turner and a.a.p. prints, now which one looks better, the dubbed version of the a.a.p. version?
     
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    Kevin Mo @Bugssponge

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    Now, @A-Cecil, if you had to choose from the best dubbed version and the worst dubbed version, only one from each, which would you choose?

    Elmer's Candid Camera's EU print is pretty bad, not as bad as the AAP print, but its worse than the USA print, which is like 50x better.
     
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    Best: Catch As Cats Can (score:100/100)
    Worst: Hop, Skip and A Chump (score: 0/100)

    Some other dubbed versions where the USA prints look better than the EU prints include Yankee Doodle Daffy, Case Of The Missing Hare, Hare Ribbin, The Heckling Hare and Egghead Rides Again.

    Horton Hatches The Egg on the other hand even though both dubbed versions look really good the EU print looks a bit better than the USA print as the cartoon's EU print has more vibrant colors.
     
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    I think Hop, Skip and a Chump is actually okay, but people do think differently. I think Plenty of Money and You has the worst one because the color corrections are just so bad. The third worse one for me is Katnip Kollege, that one is bad too, this one is probably like my fifth or sixth worse one.

    Worst (from first onwards)
    Plenty of Money and You
    Falling Hare
    Katnip Kollege
    Saddle Silly
    Dog Tired
    Hop, Skip, and a Chump
    Elmer's Candid Camera (EU print)
    Gorilla My Dreams (USA print)
     
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    Is there a master copy of The Unruly Hare's dubbed version, the CN one doesn't look too great?
     
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    That CN rip of the dubbed version of The Unruly Hare you say doesn't look good is because its recorded on a VHS tape.

    Here are some HQ alternatives of the cartoon's 1995 dubbed version:
    1. USA print (from CN Latin America): http://roxmice.com/
    2. EU print (from Boomerang CEE): https://yadi.sk/d/5OoeshdnfwQGF/WB - Merrie Melodies - 1945-02-10 - The Unruly Hare.m2p

    Notes:
    * NewBogus' DM channel has the EU print of "The Unruly Hare" in HQ but I did not use that link because the video on his DM channel is incomplete (last few minutes of the cartoon are missing).
    * The first link above is not in English, its dubbed in Brazilian-Portugese.
    * The second link above has 5 audiotracks (Polish, Russian, Hungarian, Romanian, English, with the English track on top, hence explaining the English track playing in preview mode). To get the English version, remove the 4 dub tracks and keep the English track.

    I have both the USA and EU print of the cartoon (complete, in HQ and in English audio). I think I'll soon upload the CN LA TVrip of The Unruly Hare on DM.
     
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    Here it is, the USA dubbed print of "The Unruly Hare" in HQ:
     
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    the roxmice takes me to a game.

    Also, the EU dubbed version looks like a remaster, I'd rate this 100% good and good.
     
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    True. I also noticed that even though The Unruly Hare's USA and EU Turner 1995 prints have almost the same color correction, the EU print's colors are a bit more vibrant than the USA print's colors, and the EU print has sharper picture quality than the USA print. See for yourself:
    unruly hare usa vs eu dubbed.png
    (Left: USA print from CN Latin America/Right: EU print from Boomerang CEE)
     
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    I haven't seen every single dubbed version so i dont know which one is best.

    Also, according to the 2008 CN Latin America YouTube video, i think the USA dubbed version of Herr Meets Hare keeps the original closing card, i'm not so sure, but i think it does.
     

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