"Dragon Ball Z" on Blu-Ray - News & Discussion

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  1. Chaos Yoshi Mage

    Chaos Yoshi Mage The Lonely Raven

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    Re-posted form ANN:

    "The North American anime distributor Funimation announced at its Comic-Con International panel on Thursday that it will release the Dragon Ball Z television anime series for the first time on Blu-ray Disc starting this fall. Dallas-based ANDTRANSFER will remaster the anime from the original Japanese 16mm film reels at 1080p. Colorist Steve Franko will [COLOR=#0000FF !important][FONT=inherit !important][COLOR=#0000FF !important][FONT=inherit !important]work[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] with Funimation to digitally restore the footage."

    I've been buying the Dragon Ball Kai DVD's and don't have DBZ on DVD, I might get this if Funi doesn't screw it up.
     
  2. Paradox295

    Paradox295 Chicks dig it, dude!

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    Don't be fooled by the fact that it's on Blu-ray. It's the same 16mm film as the Dragon Boxes, and any good Blu-ray player will upscale the Dboxes to more or less the same quality as these releases.
     
  3. Sarada

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    Yes, because FUNimation knows exactly what Dragon Ball Z looks like.

    Well, that's my sarcastic comment on the issue. Now, for realz: Yeah, I trust FUNimation on this about as far as I can through the collective copies of the orange bricks they've sold. The inclusion of the 'original FUNimation audio' also leaves me billious.

    That said folks, keep to the Dragon Boxes and hope to God Toei decides to put down the cash for a proper remastering before the show turns forty.

    EDIT: And for the record, FUNimation isn't using the 'original masters'. Toei would never let some licensee touch those.
     
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  4. GWOtaku

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    Let's please not confuse the issue. The reporting says they're remastering from the original 16mm film, so assume that is the case. Apparently the Dragon Boxes remastered from that film as well, so the only question is how good a job will actually be done.

    Every DBZ fan that's paid attention knows what happened with the orange boxes by now, so caution is totally warranted. But, it's not 2007 anymore.
     
  5. Sarada

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    It's hardly the first time a press release (here it is, by the way) was wrong or poorly worded. FUNimation said the season sets were created from the 'original masters', too. Toei would be far, far, far, far more involved and very much so mentioned in the press release if something that big was going on. The same specialist used for the season sets is also being used. I'll work on good faith and assume these won't just be the cropped 1080p masters FUNi and Franko made four years ago, but something actually new. Even working on the assumption these masters are newly crafted from a generational master, I cannot believe we'll see nearly as much effort and manpower placed into these 'Level masters' as is actually necessary for making the series appear as they looked when originally created 16-20 years ago.

    Might these turn out half-way decent? It's possible. Will these be made from the actual original masters? No. It'll be from hand-me-down masters just like what was used in 2007, possibly of better or worse quality.
     
  6. GWOtaku

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    Just stick to your doubt about the job, that is reasonable ground. There is nothing confusing or not clear about that PR or what's been said about the SDCC panel yet. I do facts, not guesswork on assumptions that a company has no idea what it is saying.

    Toei gave them the go-ahead to do it, of course, though I don't think this says much in and of itself aside from their lack of worry about the treatment. Whether reality lives up to the hype, we'll know in time. If they are smart they will put out a trailer comparing the image just like what happened with the Yu Yu Hakusho Blu-Ray release, and fans will have a very clear idea of what they're getting into then.
     
  7. Sketch

    Sketch not like those other old guys

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    Well I suppose it was only a matter of time but yet another remaster? I'll stick to the Dragon Boxes for now.

    Interesting that they're going back to including the FUNimation BGM. 3 audio tracks shouldn't be hard to accomplish on Blu-Ray.
     
  8. Manga4life

    Manga4life DYNAMITE's PULP FIESTA BLOG!!!

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    I'm perfectly fine with the home DVD releases of DBZ Kai, I didn't quite like classic DBZ and I felt Kai really helped me to get into the show and for that I'll be eternally gratefull. I love Funimation to death but it seems to me that they may be beating the dead horse here, with past releases, Dragon Boxes and the Kai discs I think they are over-milking the DBZ franchise at this point....
     
  9. The Man in Black

    The Man in Black I have 5 of broats

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    What's bad is I own the first 5 orange bricks >.> annnd the first "Ultimate Uncut" dvd kicking around somewhere. SO when will they announce a trade-in for better releases? >.>
     
  10. FireStarterLE

    FireStarterLE You don't want to see us mad

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    I'll stick with the dvds I already have. If I feel like having DBZ on BR, I'll buy Kai and if I feel like having the whole series I'll buy the Dragon boxes after the Cell Games and watch them on an BluRay player.

    *291 eps ÷ (roughly) 17 ep BluRay sets = a good reason for me not to invest in these

    **I also can't say I'm too surprised that FUNi can't let their DBZ cash cow die (Dragon boxes and Kai will be ending soon for them)
     
  11. Sketch

    Sketch not like those other old guys

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    Didn't noticed the 17 episodes before. That's... well... it's a bit better than 13 but still that's going to make for 17 sets if they stick to roughly that number. Close to 20 Blu-Ray's for the entire DBZ. That's deplorable when both the Orange Bricks and the Dragon Boxes give you a much better deal on collecting the whole series.

    But I expect the inevitable "double pack" even if they only are sold at Walmart. When that happens, maybe I'll be interested.
     
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    Something I noticed: nothing was outright said about the Kikuchi score. So, I asked about it in response to the press release on funimation.com and delivered my make-a-YYH-style-trailer-for-this advice.

    It occurs to me that under these conditions Dragon Boxes are likely on track to be the economical quality series release while Kai is offering the far superior dub. This idea becomes considerably less appealing when one stops to consider that it'll take roughly two years for it to be rereleased and competitive. It does for me, anyway. I love anime but damn, collecting a long show is expensive, and because I like anime as much as I do I always feel I miss out on too much else paying top dollar for a show that's been rereleased so much and is on TV (sort of). Even for One Piece it's a daunting thing to me, but I like it just enough to go for that anyway.

    Yu Yu Hakusho on Blu-Ray is 26 episodes for a sticker price of $45. Will be very interesting to see what they think they can pull off with 17 for DBZ.
     
  13. The Man in Black

    The Man in Black I have 5 of broats

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    I still hate Kai Gohan's dub voice.
     
  14. Sketch

    Sketch not like those other old guys

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    Well I dislike how close it sounds to Luffy especially later on but it's much much MUCH better than Nadonley's Gohan in my opinion.
     
  15. GingaDaiuchuu

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    Already? I know they're determined to release Dragon Ball Z (not even counting Kai) ALL THE TIME, but they didn't even wait until the last release of the previous line was out this time, and there won't be so much as a month between them. Needless to say, this will be the first "new" (as in, not old discs repackaged) Dragon Ball release since... uh... the Ultimate Uncut editions(?) that I won't be getting. It's too bad this announcement wasn't for the Dragon Boxes of the movies or the other two series instead, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got those announcements at Otakon (or possibly shortly after the last Dragon Box Z is released).
     
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    Sorry FUNi, but a Blu-Ray upgrade for DBZ is not worth it for me, especially if it is FUNi remastering themselves again. I'm perfectly fine with the quality of the Dragon Boxes and Kai, which I've mainly been buying to enjoy the new and improved dub. Even though I'm not getting this release, I do wonder if they'll actually remaster it in 4:3 this time around. I think FUNi basically hinted a while ago that the criticism against the cropping convinced them not to do the same for Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball GT, or even us the 16:9 masters of Kai.
     
  17. Ferquin

    Ferquin I ♥ Princess Peach!

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    Blah. I can't believe FUNimation is wasting their resources on this instead of concentrating on...say...getting us more One Piece. Or doing a public service by acquiring Sailor Moon and getting new re-masters of that.

    The Dragon Boxes and Kai are pretty much all I need now for DBZ. They've already got DBZ in Blu-Ray through Kai. It boggles the mind why they would continue milking DBZ like this when it's pretty obvious that nobody on this thread would support it.

    If they wanna remaster something, they should do a clean up of original Dragon Ball. Now that I would pay to see a Blu-Ray remaster for. I have all of the DB compilations, but if I'm being honest, I would love to see this series cleaned up visually. Maybe even remaster the BGM a bit. Remastered classic Dragon Ball would kick so much ass.
     
  18. Gold Guy

    Gold Guy This ain't Pokemon!

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    DBZ on Blu? I have nothing against BluRay, but when I get DBZ, I would get either the Dragon Boxes or the season box-sets.
     
  19. G1Ravage

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    Uhhh...did I miss something? This is something we've all expected to happen for years now. They're taking their "remastered" orange brick sets and now putting the same widescreen crap out on Blu-ray.
     
  20. GWOtaku

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    Actually, Rojas publicly said they were negotiating for that at SDCC.
    YES, now we're talking. My feelings exactly. It's a great show and it still has nothing equal to the Dragon Box DVD in the U.S.

    No, they are not upscaling that footage. This is a new transfer that may or may not work out.
     

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