1. We are looking for a volunteer to help out with entering the DC and Marvel comics solicitations. If you are interested, please contact Harley.
    Dismiss Notice

Copyright statuses of theatrical shorts.

Discussion in 'Back To The Inkwell - Classic Cartoons Discussion' started by Daikun, Jan 26, 2015.

  1. Daikun

    Daikun Long Live the Fighter!
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2005
    Messages:
    9,061
    Likes Received:
    277
    I think it would be nice to know which theatrical shorts are still copyrighted or in the public domain. It can get kind of confusing when Popeye and Looney Tunes fall into both categories, so I feel a thread can help clear things up.

    Public Domain:

    Warner Bros.:
    Private Snafu (all shorts)
    Mr. Hook (all shorts)

    Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies (long list, see spoilers):
    Universal:
    Scrub Me Mama with a Boogie Beat

    Woody Woodpecker:
    -Pantry Panic

    Paramount:
    Color Classics (all except "The Tears of an Onion")
    Felix the Cat (all Paramount-era shorts)
    Fleischer's Superman (all shorts)
    Gulliver's Travels (feature-length film)
    Noveltoons (all cartoons before 1950)

    Baby Huey:
    -Pest Pupil
    -Quack-a-Doodle-Doo

    Betty Boop (long list, see spoilers):
    Popeye the Sailor (long list, see spoilers):
    Disney:
    Alice Comedies (all shorts) [predates The Walt Disney Company]
    Laugh-O-Gram (all shorts) [predates The Walt Disney Company]

    Mickey Mouse & Friends:
    -The Mad Doctor

    RKO:
    Felix the Cat (all RKO-era shorts)
    Van Beuren's Tom & Jerry (all shorts)

    MGM:
    -Doggone Tired
    -Jerky Turkey

    Terrytoons:
    -The Talking Magpies
    -Wolf, Wolf!
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    Copyrighted:

    Warner Bros.:

    Universal:

    Paramount:
    Noveltoons (all cartoons after 1950)
    The Tears of an Onion

    Betty Boop (long list, see spoilers):
    Popeye the Sailor (long lists, see spoilers):
    Fleischer Studios:
    Famous Studios:
    Disney:

    Oswald the Lucky Rabbit:
    -All Wet

    RKO:

    MGM:
    Hanna-Barbera's Tom & Jerry (all shorts)
    The Pink Panther (all shorts)
    Screwy Squirrel (all shorts)

    Terrytoons:

    If anyone has shorts or companies they'd like to add (this is a rough draft), let us know!
     
  2. Looney Tunes Fan

    Looney Tunes Fan Moon Prism Power, Make Up!

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2011
    Messages:
    2,182
    Likes Received:
    7
  3. CartoonFridays

    CartoonFridays Promoted to detective.

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2010
    Messages:
    2,149
    Likes Received:
    5
    I can give you some public domain stuff.

    POPEYE
    - Popeye the Sailor Meets Sindbad the Sailor
    - I'm in the Army Now
    - The Paneless Window Washer
    - Popeye the Sailor Meets Ali Baba's Forty Thieves
    - A Date to Skate
    - Customers Wanted
    - Aladdin and His Wonderful Lamp
    - Me Musical Nephews
    - Shuteye Popeye
    - Big Bad Sindbad
    - Ancient Fistory
    - All shorts from Floor Flusher to Cookin' with Gags
    - All shorts from Popeye for President to Spooky Swabs

    COLOR CLASSICS
    - All of them (except The Tears of an Onion)
     
  4. Daikun

    Daikun Long Live the Fighter!
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2005
    Messages:
    9,061
    Likes Received:
    277
    Thanks a lot, you guys!

    By the way, does anyone know the copyright status of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit? I know that Disney bought some (or is it all?) of them back. Are any of the shorts even in the public domain anymore because of this?
     
  5. MadMan400096

    MadMan400096 World War I Flying Ace

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2010
    Messages:
    3,635
    Likes Received:
    2
    The Terrytoons shorts The Talking Magpies and Wolf, Wolf! are in the public domain, as are the three Felix the Cat shorts Van Buren made and Tex Avery's shorts Turkey Jerky and Doggone Tired. I should also note that any works made before 1923 are public domain by law.

    As for Disney, besides the Laugh-O-Grams shorts, all of which were pre-1923, all of the Alice Comedies are in the public domain, though 16 of the 57 shorts lack existing copies as of this writing. Lantz's reissues of certain Oswald shorts are public domain as well, save All Wet, but as far as I know, not even the lost Disney Oswalds (the actual versions) are. Additionally, both Baby Huey's first (Quack-a-Doodle-Doo) and last (Pest Pupil) are public domain.
     
  6. Daikun

    Daikun Long Live the Fighter!
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2005
    Messages:
    9,061
    Likes Received:
    277
    So, should I place those under Universal or Disney?
     
  7. MadMan400096

    MadMan400096 World War I Flying Ace

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2010
    Messages:
    3,635
    Likes Received:
    2
    Technically, they're just reissues of Disney's Oswald shorts, so I say Disney.

    Also, I just remembered Lantz's questionable Scrub Me Mama with a Boogie Beat is public domain as well.

    Adding to the copyrighted part, every single Tom and Jerry short is still under copyright.
     
  8. Lord Dalek

    Lord Dalek Uncreative Hack

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2003
    Messages:
    40,600
    Likes Received:
    57
    All the Betty Boops that Olive released on their Blu-rays are still under copyright (many have fallen into the PD though).

    CHESS NUTS (1932),
    BETTY BOOP, M.D. (1932),
    BETTY BOOP’S BAMBOO ISLE (1932),
    BETTY BOOP FOR PRESIDENT (1932),
    BETTY BOOP’S PENTHOUSE (1933),
    BETTY BOOP’S BIRTHDAY PARTY (1933),
    BETTY BOOP’S MAY PARTY (1933),
    BETTY BOOP’S HALLOWE’EN PARTY (1933),
    BETTY BOOP’S RISE TO FAME (1934),
    BETTY BOOP’S TRIAL (1934),
    BETTY BOOP’S LIFE GUARD (1934),
    THE FOXY HUNTER (1937)
    DIZZY DISHES (1930),
    BIMBO’S INITIATION (1931),
    BOO-OOP-A-DOOP (1932),
    BETTY BOOP LIMITED (1932),
    BETTY BOOP’S BIZZY BEE (1932),
    BETTY BOOP’S UPS AND DOWNS (1932),
    BETTY BOOP’S MUSEUM (1932),
    BETTY BOOP’S BIG BOSS (1933),
    MORNING, NOON AND NIGHT (1933),
    BETTY BOOP’S LITTLE PAL (1934),
    BETTY BOOP’S PRIZE SHOW (1934)
    KEEP IN STYLE (1934)
    MINNIE THE MOOCHER (1932),
    I’LL BE GLAD WHEN YOU’RE DEAD YOU RASCAL YOU (1932)
    MOTHER GOOSE LAND (1933)
    THE OLD MAN OF THE MOUNTAIN (1933) I HEARD (1933)
    HA! HA! HA! (1934)
    STOP THAT NOISE (1935)
    SERVICE WITH A SMILE (1937)
    THE NEW DEAL SHOW (1937)
    BE UP TO DATE (1938)
    OUT OF THE INKWELL (1938)
    PUDGY IN THRILLS AND CHILLS (1938)
    Stopping the Show (1932)
    Snow White (1933, featuring Cab Calloway)
    Parade of the Wooden Soldiers (1934)
    She Wronged Him Right (1934)
    Red Hot Mamma (1934)
    Poor Cinderella (1934, in color)
    There’s Something About a Soldier (1934)
    When My Ship Comes In (1934)
    Zula Hula (1937)
    Riding the Rails (1938)
    The Swing School (1938)
    Pudgy the Watchman (1938)
    Sally Swing (1938).

    Also all Paramount Noveltoons produced prior to 1950 are considered PD (the later ones were all purchased by Harvey Comics and are maintained by Dreamworks Classics). This includes the first three appearances of Casper the Friendly Ghost.
     
  9. Daikun

    Daikun Long Live the Fighter!
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2005
    Messages:
    9,061
    Likes Received:
    277
    So, if I'm understanding your post's format right... The all-caps titles are the copyrighted ones?
     
  10. Lord Dalek

    Lord Dalek Uncreative Hack

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2003
    Messages:
    40,600
    Likes Received:
    57
    No all of them are. For whatever reason Olive didn't capitalize the ones for their final press release. There's still about 30+ that are legitimate PD though.
     
  11. Dr.Pepper

    Dr.Pepper Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2006
    Messages:
    15,914
    Likes Received:
    199
    Is Goonland (Popeye), Minnie the Moocher (Betty Boop), and Porky in Wackyland PD? Also I remember reading that all but two of the Gabby (Gulliver's Travels) were PD. Anybody know which ones are under copyright?
     
  12. John Pannozzi

    John Pannozzi Still Gritty after all these years

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2003
    Messages:
    5,799
    Likes Received:
    6
    Goonland isn't PD, if it was, it would have been on Thunderbean's Popeye DVD (which has all PD Popeye cartoons made in black & white).

    Not sure about Minnie the Moocher. I think it's PD, but I might be wrong, given how confusing the rights to Betty Boop are.

    AFAIK, Porky in Wackyland is not PD. Maybe Tin Pan Alley Cats is and that's what you were thinking of?

    Not sure about Gabby.

    A shame those Film Superlist books that listed all PD movies are rather rare and expensive nowadays. I really wish they could somehow be brought back into print...
     
  13. Tumblenerd

    Tumblenerd Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2017
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    11
    The copyrights are a mystery. I have a side channel where I upload classic cartoons, among them Popeye and Betty Boop, and some are tagged as copyrighted and some aren't. Yet Paramount (the claimant) doesn't file any claims, they just seem OK with it all.
     
  14. Daikun

    Daikun Long Live the Fighter!
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2005
    Messages:
    9,061
    Likes Received:
    277
    Paramount doesn't really own the shorts anymore (at least the ones produced before 1961). They were sold to other companies after they closed their animation division.
     
  15. Tumblenerd

    Tumblenerd Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2017
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    11
    I know, that's the story as I understand it too. And yet some videos have "Monetized by copyright owner" next to them, which--it says--is Paramount Pictures.

    "Copyrighted content was found in your video. The claimant is allowing their content to be used in your YouTube video. However, ads might appear on it."
     

Share This Page

  • Find Toonzone on Facebook

  • Toonzone News

  • Site Updates

    Upcoming Premieres

  • Toonzone Fan Sites


Tac Anti Spam from Surrey Forum