C&C - Naruto Shippuden - "Meeting" [9/9]

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  1. macattack

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    Tonight, Naruto gets to meet Konan and Nagato as they truly are, and not as the enemies who have made his life a living hell for so many episodes.

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    Previously on Naruto Shippuden, Nagato announced he would tell his story and has left Naruto waiting for 4 weeks at this point. And yes, Naruto, I can't believe it either.
     
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    marklungo Greetings from Honneamise

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    Hatred and vengefulness awakened his powers? So he's Magneto, then.
     
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    Yyyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaah, you hidden leaf ninja done goofed. Really interesting how a) the Hidden leaf are framed as murderers and b) being at war can cause one to mistake civilians as one's enemy.

    "When you spend every day fighting a war, you learn to demonize your attackers. To you, they're evil, they're sub-human. Because if they weren't, then what would that make you?" - Vanessa Kimball
     
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    marklungo Greetings from Honneamise

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    "I met Konan, who soon introduced me to Andy Richter and Triumph the Insult Comic Dog."
     
  6. Kitschensyngk

    Kitschensyngk The kids are all wrong

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    World domination...the same old dream.
     
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    Only the approach to said-dream wasn't as warped as it wound up being.
     
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    marklungo Greetings from Honneamise

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    Ladies and gentlemen, the origin of the Robear-Berbils.
     
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    Episode 172: “Meeting”
    Broadcast Date: August 5, 2010
    Adapted from Naruto Chapters 444-446 (Published 2009)

    It’s the First

    Nagato relates his story: the murder of his parents, his meeting with Yahiko and Konan, and the development of his dream.

    The first recorded appearance of Nagato using his Rinnegan. How he got the Rinnegan will be revealed much later.

    The Plot Thickens
    The Great Toad Sage teleports Gamabunta to Mount Myoboku and treats his injuries.

    Naruto and Pain are both referred to as ‘children of prophecy.’

    Despite Konan’s protests, Nagato will tell Naruto his story and wait for his response before taking any action.

    Nagato comments that his story is based on two Pains: his parents’ death was the first. The second will be revealed in the next episode (but we all have an idea).

    Remember When (or Not)
    Much of the episode is in flashback.

    His Hidden Rain village (Amegakure) caught up in the Great War, Nagato and his family hide in their home during one local battle. They are spotted by two Konoha ninjas; mistaking them for soldiers, the ninjas attack and kill the parents. Nagato kills them with the Rinnegan (although he will realize this later; the power usage knocking him unconscious).

    Wandering without food or shelter, Nagato befriends a dog whom he names Chibi. The two are soon rescued from starvation by Konan and Yahiko. He joins in their thievery for survival, making displays of begging to vendors while his compatriots secretly snatches food.

    Nagato has a flashback of that rejecting homeowner and his ‘bare’ resources of food.

    Nagato learns Yahiko’s plan to rule the world as gods, so he and Konan can do anything they want. Nagato is interested; could they stop war too?

    While wandering, the three orphans are accidentally bombarded by an explosion (from a battle between Hanso and the Three Legendary Sannin- Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Orochimaru). Chibi is killed. Angered by this, Yahiko declares that he will become God of this world and stop this war (this resolve wins Nagato’s full support). To achieve this, Yahiko intends to learn Ninjitsu, and will get a Ninja to teach them. Yahiko’s choice is the Konoha Ninja he spotted (He wants nothing to do with Hanso, whom he blames for turning the place into a war zone).

    Nagato remembers his parents’ murder.

    After much searching in the dangerous battle zone, the orphans locate the Sannin.

    Oh What a Lonely Boy!
    The newly orphaned Nagato buries his parents and wanders alone. He stops at one house for food, but the owner politely rejects him about his own ‘bare’ resources.

    But in the Manga…
    The Anime gives an intro to Gamabunta awaking to his hospitalization. He pours some sake for ‘medicinal purposes.’

    Anime Nagato adds to Konan about Naruto’s formidability in defeating the six Pains.

    The Manga depicts the death of Nagato’s family mostly in shadows and darkness. The Anime’s depiction, while adapting some of the initial style, is more detailed in the figures and background.

    The Anime adds to the scene: Nagato’s father gets punched while struggling with the Konoha Ninja. Nagato’s mom pushes her son back to take the assailant’s Kunai. The father cries out to Nagato to run. His death is depicted in shadow.

    In the Manga, Nagato’s father cries out at his wife’s murder. The Anime version makes his shock silent.

    The Manga has Nagato attempt to be antisocial with Chibi to force his abandonment (because of the lack of food to give him). Anime Nagato hugs Chibi instead.

    The Anime adds to Nagato being rejected by a house’s owner; through a window, the boy spots a table with a basket full of bread (barely enough to survive, eh?). This causes him a moment of quiet angst before leaving the place.

    The Anime adds to Nagato’s first meeting with Yahiko; he is surprised at their shelter’s amount of food. Yahiko persuades him to earn his presence by helping him steal more food; although reluctant about stealing, he is persuaded by Yahiko to drop that morality for survival. In the background, Konan plays with Chibi with an Origami dog.

    The Anime adds to the orphans thieving the vendor. Chibi steals an apple, distracting the vendor while the trio grabs more apples; they are spotted but run and hide in an alley. An attempt to steal a watermelon backfires, and the trio get roughened up by the vendors. Despite this, Nagato is comforted by Chibi.

    The Anime Yahiko comforts Nagato over a setback.

    The Manga has Yahiko declare his Ninjitsu-training ambitions outside in the rain. The Anime transports this scene to their hideout.

    Although Kid Nagato’s wary memory of Konoha Ninjas is canon, the Anime transplants it to Yahiko’s declaration scene (the Manga position is in the first meeting with Jiraiya).

    The Anime adds to Yahiko’s choice of Ninjutsu mentors, figuring the lack of their corpses signals their formidability (if they get killed, he’ll latch on to their killers).

    The Anime removes a scene of adult Nagato relating his distrust of Konoha Ninjas to Naruto.

    The Anime adds a lengthy scene of the orphans searching for the Sannin (the Manga cuts to their meeting). Among these scenes:
    -The three Orphans pack up and leave their hideout. Yahiko decides not to destroy the abandoned food; they bring it to the vendors they thieved.
    -The Orphans make a grave for Chibi, with Konan putting her Origami dog on it.
    -The Orphans’ search for the Sannin puts them in the battlezone; since Ninjas wouldn’t leave footprints, Yahiko figures the intensity of the battlefield would reveal the Sannin’s location.
    -The orphans wear gasmask helmets in gas-filled territory. I could be wrong, but although the Manga shows these masks on the orphans’ backs, it never depicted the orphans actually using them.
    -Yahiko saves Nagato from a booby trap.
    -Yahiko picks up a Kunai and playfully pretends he’s a ninja.
    -Caught in another battle, Nagato uses the Rinnegan to project a protective field around them. Thrown into the river, they manage to get ashore and locate the Sannin.

    The Anime adds Naruto’s fist-clench scene (see below).

    Love, Friends, and Relationships
    Nagato mourns his parents, befriends a dog, and gets friends in Yahiko and Konan.

    Naruto clenches a fist in sadness hearing about Nagato’s meeting with Jiraiya.
     

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