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C&C - JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - "Devil" [9/23]

Discussion in 'The Adult Swim/Toonami Forum' started by veemonjosh, Sep 23, 2017.

  1. Anyone00

    Anyone00 The Moltar-Snork

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    More like the Zuni Fetish Doll.
     
  2. Mr. Anime

    Mr. Anime Active Member

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    You can pretty much rename this part of JoJo as "Hirohiko Araki really loves horror movies" and it'll be a lot more accurate a title.
     
  3. Radical

    Radical The Face of Evil & Epicness!!!!!

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    Episode 34 was pretty sweet/intense,

    Team Jotaro to keep Anne safe on finding her father was great.

    Polnareff to know that Dio's next assassin was there was sweet/smart of him.

    Devo the Cursed, an interesting crazy psychotic messed-up assassin who wants to get injured for his Stand to work.

    His bizarre Stand power on possessing dolls is interesting though, so a Chucky reference on evil monster dolls, hehehe:p.

    Polnareff vs. Devo was intense/brutal, love Devo's satisfying defeat from Polnareff's awesomeness, cool seeing Polnareff defeat a Dio assassin after Jotaro:D.

    Poor Polnareff arrested, but cool of the Speedwagon Foundation's lawyers to help.

    The hidden message from the TV from Joseph was interesting with more foreshadowing.

    Kakyoin the traitor at the end, well played Kakyoin, great foreshadowing cliffhanger.
     
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  4. Volthoom

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    Or more accurately: Hirohiko Araki's travel guide that is interspersed with with horror movies references.

    Because this is basically a weird travel guide.

    So you see the injuries Devo/Soul Sacrifice got? Yeah in the Japan broadcast version all that had been censored by the unnecessary shadows.
     
  5. PicardMan

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    The creepy doll episode did not disappoint and we got to learn a little more about stand rules. Apparently, stands (or at least Silver Chairiot) cannot aim on his own and relies on Polnareff to give him commands. The villain of the week was in a completely different room and was able to guide his stand, leaving me a little confused. The spectacle of the creepy doll episode and it's overall fun kept me from noticing this until now. How does this stand rule work?
     
  6. Volthoom

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    Yeah this series was part of the era of Fist of the North Star, which showed people's heads exploding in really crazy ways.

    Ok so some Stand have eyes the user's can see out of. Polnareff can't see out of his Silver Chariot's eyes, while Devo can see out the eyes of his Stand. Also Ebony Devil is a long range Stand, meaning that it can operate at a farther distance from its user. Star Platinum, Silver Chariot, and Magicians Red are short range Stands. They can't go far from their users. Fortunately long range Stands are still beholden to the destroy Stand and the user dies rule, now independent/remote control/automatic long range Stands on the other hand...

    I think Toonami cut the Stand Stat pop ups that appeared in the Japanese broadcast, cause one of the Stats is range.
     
  7. PicardMan

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    Okay, so it does vary by stand type. So I guess long range stands can have the users see what the stand sees, but not short range. What about Hyrophant Green? Is he short or long range? I guess Toonami cut out eyecatches that explain stand stats and rules. That might make some things harder to follow when the eyecatches provide plot important information (also looking at you Death Note. I'm sure Adult Swim cutting the Death Note rules eyecatches caused similar confusion back in the day.)
     
  8. Volthoom

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    Heirophant Green is a long range Stand. Also the eyecatches are a shorthand way to show what the Stand is best suited for.

    Ironically, Araki only came up with that in Part 5, then in later releases the Stats were retroactively added.

    EDIT: basically an easy way to keep track of a Stand's physical capabilities. Though given that JoJo isn't a Shonen battle series anymore, but a Seinen battle series, and the Stands being a lot more indirect means that Araki may have phased them out in recent chapters.
     
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  9. EntropicReaver

    EntropicReaver Queen of Heck

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    The rules of stands are pretty flexible early on. The rules become more concrete but even then, there are often stands that have unique powers or 'break the rules of stands'.

    There is a concept of remote stands, stands that can operate a large to indefinite distance from their user. These stands often are convoluted/indirect/not suitable for head on combat situations. They are sometimes unintelligent extensions of a stand with singular purpose that cannot be controlled in a complex way, running on an autopilot.

    As for the stand eyes thing, it varies from stand to stand. Jotaro can see through Star Platinum's eyes. Something brought up by Devo/Soul Sacrifice is that the protagonists are at a distinct disadvantage in that everyone sent to fight them already knows their powers. This concept of keeping your stand a secret to keep yourself safe is occasionally brought up, like in this panel of Part 8.

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  10. Volthoom

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    Ah, Out of Context JoJo, the greatest gift that keeps on giving.
     

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