"Batman: The Dark Knight (2011 Ongoing)" Series Talkback (Spoilers)

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  1. James Harvey

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    The dark side of Gotham comes to life in the new DC Universe!

    BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT #1

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    Written by DAVID FINCH and PAUL JENKINS
    Art by DAVID FINCH and RICHARD FRIEND


    The Dark Knight struggles against a deadly – yet strangely familiar – foe in this phenomenal debut issue from superstar writer/artist David Finch! As a mysterious figure slinks through the halls of Arkham Asylum, Batman must fight his way through a gauntlet of psychos, and Bruce Wayne faces the unexpected legal ramifications of Batman Incorporated!

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  2. Bat-Fan Beyond

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    Okay, too much of the same thing as in Batman #1: Bruce gives a speech about Wayne Enterprises improving Gotham and there's also a breakout of inmates at Arkham Asylum.

    I could probably understand it (maybe) if Dark Knight #1 and Batman #1 were focusing on the same speech and the same breakout from two different points of view, but they're not --These are two different speeches and two different breakouts! Is this a case of weird coincidence and bad timing? I don't know which writer had the idea first, but I feel lucky that Snyder's and Capullo's Batman issue came out first last week, because I would have been a little disappointed in it if I had read it after reading Finch's and Jenkin's Dark Knight. Regardless, Snyder did it a lot better and gave more, so Batman is the book I'm sticking with. Finch's art was nice on The Dark Knight, but it wasn't as dynamic as Capullo's was on Batman, and the writing just wasn't that good here. It was 20 pages that actually felt like only 10. Stretched out storytelling, with nothing new to keep me interested. Plus, it had a Venom-induced Two-Face that wants to now call himself One-Face. Pretty lame.
     
  3. Astrolupine

    Astrolupine Man on the wing.

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    Oh gee whiz, One-Face. Something tells me he'd be happier in an Arkham City tie-in. David Finch is a good contender for drawing Batman, but his writing was subpar on his last series (whicj you may as well call a mini!) and the same here, Paul Jenkins too, he's lost his spark. Like Bat-Fan said, nothing much happened for a #1 and if Finch keeps delaying again, this could be the first Bat-book of the relaunch to get axed.
     
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    I didn't dig this either - I felt the entire thing felt sub par and stupidly similar to the superior Batman #1.

    Have to say as well - for a jump on point, there was nothing remarkable about the issue. It felt like the beginning of just another story-arc instead of a fresh take on things - it didn't jump out me like, say Daredevil #1 from a few weeks back or even Justice League #1 from a few weeks.

    Someone really needs to step up thier game with Batman over at DC Comics - the books simply aren't good enough at the moment.
     
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    Okay, so after re-reading issue #1 a few times I can honestly say that this is tied with Batman #1 as being my 2nd favorite Batman book (Detective Comics is my fave) thanks to fun writing and superb art by Davic Finch. I love the darker than normal feel of this book and the way that Batman seems to want to act now and ask question later, it was such a joy to read and I hope issue #2 continues the story with the same feel as this new Batman story unfolds.

    Also, I loved the little hottie Bruce was flirting with early on in the issue after he was being harrassed by the detective, I'd like for her to become a big part of the story and maybe even a love interest for Bruce.
     
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    Huh? Really? I love Finch's art, and I'm glad to see he has some support, but unfortunately I really didn't like this book. I thought Detective was a heck of a lot better, and the absolute best was Batman #1. But to each their own.
     
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    Yep, to each their own. I loved Detective Comics #1 too, it was my favorite of the Batman titles, but this one found itself tied with Batman #1 for my 2nd favorite and I will continue to support it until DC gives me a reason not to.
     
  8. James Harvey

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    What is happening at Arkham Asylum?

    BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT #2

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    Written by DAVID FINCH and PAUL JENKINS
    Art by DAVID FINCH and RICHARD FRIEND


    Something sinister surges through Arkham Asylum, and Batman finds himself bombarded by his greatest foes in this second sensational issue from superstar creator David Finch! Bigger, meaner, and more powerful than ever before, the inmates of Arkham Asylum run rampant as the entire Bat Family struggles to keep the walls from falling down, unleashing Gotham City’s worst criminals on the unsuspecting population. And you won’t believe the jaw-dropping final page! Just keep repeating, “It’s only a comic book. It’s only a comic book...”

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  9. Astrolupine

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    Eh, I found #2 even sillier with that muscle-bound Ventriloquist apperance, Zsasz and Cavalier as well. There's a hint of Alfred may be scouring through Internet pornography for clues and a cheesy delivery of Joker uttering Nicholson's famous line that both put me off. Finch's art is still the highlight, but sharing writing duties with Jenkins makes the plot feel rather muddled. TDK just doesn't have its own feel compared to the other 3 bat-books, even though I'm only caring for Snyder's.

    So, no I don't believe I'll continue with this one.
     
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    I just got to say, I'm loving Jim Gordon in this series so far, he's been one of the main draws to this book and he's becoming one of my favorite supporting characters in any comic book title on store shelves. With that said, this issue was a fun one. I loved Batman visiting Two-Face at the hospital and I geeked out at seeing Joker at the ending of the book, especialy since we was surrounding himself with a sexy lil' lady (thank you Finch and your amazing art). I'd say that The Dark Knight has bee slightly more mature than the other Batman books available, it has a darket edge and it seem a little less "DCU" and a little more "90's Image", its really cool how they're handling this title.
     
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    Nothing is what it seems...

    BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT #3

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    Written by DAVID FINCH and PAUL JENKINS
    Art by DAVID FINCH and RICHARD FRIEND


    A wave of fear washes across Gotham City as a mysterious toxin radically alters the bodies of its criminals, sending crazed villains into the streets and stretching the resources of the police department. Can Batman and his vigilante partners follow the clues and uncover the perpetrator’s real identity? And when one fabled hero is stricken by the poison, the trail will point to the mysterious White Rabbit.

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  12. Shawn Hopkins

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    Paul Jenkins is one of the best writers working in comics. He's on the tier slightly below the real gods of comics like Morrison, Milligan and Moore, but he's still one of the stars. I'd put him around Abnett and Lanning, Ellis and (good) Bendis. His Spider-Man run was one of the best in the last 20 years.
     
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    What stories by him would you recommend?
     
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    What is going on here?

    BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT #4

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    Written by DAVID FINCH and PAUL JENKINS
    Art by DAVID FINCH and RICHARD FRIEND


    Batman must race against time to save a friend’s life. But his mission may prove impossible as he reels under the weight of three hundred chemically enhanced super-criminals who stand against him. All clues point to one psychotic criminal, and all roads to a solution that will lead to one secret location... but will Batman arrive too late to stop the rage let loose on his city?

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    Is it me or has this been the weakest Batman book of the relaunch? It just seems like a pale imitation of the other Batman titles. The plot is really haphazard and it just seems random. The comical boozy phonecall from Gordon is really out of character and some of the things just didn't add up.Not even Paul Jenkins who wrote some of the best Spider-Man books ever can save this book. The art is alright for what it is but this book really seems like a misfire. I can't see me staying on this book beyond the first arc unless there are some big changes.
     
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    I agree I think this is the weakest Batman book. I'm on the fence about Detective comics. I think Batman, Batman and Robin, and Nightwing are the best of the Bat books.
     
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    Is the Scarecrow responsible?

    BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT #5

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    Written by DAVID FINCH and PAUL JENKINS
    Art by DAVID FINCH and RICHARD FRIEND

    When a madman attacks Batman with a new and powerful fear toxin, The Dark Knight visits the coldest and most distant part of his soul. And as his deepest fears resurface, he must rely on old friends to help quell the terrible effects, and to remind him of his true mission as a hero. But what Batman discovers hidden in a moment of courage may change his life forever... for a dark figure from his past has returned – the one adversary The Dark Knight truly fears.

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    I read a recent quote somewhere where Jenkins says this book is meant to be the 'summer blockbuster' of all the titles. I understand what he's saying there but that doesn't mean we should settle for flash over substance. I do what what he's trying to do for this book and I am going to stick out the first arc. The book isn't bad but it's just not hitting all the notes that the other books are. Batman and Batman and Robin are easily the best books in the line and Detective Comics is good so I hope there's something done to at least bring this book up to that level. Finch's art still remains really nice though I have to admit. His depiction of Superman on the last page looked really really nice.
     
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    Is this good enough? Gregg Hurwitz is gonna be taking over as writer starting at #10. His recent Penguin mini has been greating great reviews, and he's saying all the right things in terms of Scarecrow and Batman, so I might just start picking this up. But if I do, I don't wanna miss all of Jenkins and Finch's craziness that I heard so much about it, so I'd probably start at #1.
     
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    Well played DC.

    I was totally ready to drop this book. I had promised myself I would at least collect the contents of the first trade, which was initially announced as #1-6. Then DC revised the solicits to extend the trade through #9, and I figured as much as I liked completeness, there was no way I could sit through another 4 issues of Batman bumbling through what has essentially been Hush-lite.

    But I've been absolutely loving Greg Hurwitz's work on the Penguin mini, which easily outshines most of the secondary Bat-family ongoings. He really deserved a spot writing one of the core books and I'm glad DC felt the same way. Of course, now I have issues #1-5 and I'm picking up #10 for sure, so there's no way I can leave a 4-issue gap in my collection ;) Well played indeed.

    My only concern is I hope we won't see a repeat of what happened between Rozum and McDaniel on Static Shock, where Rozum essentially became a transcriber. Not sure how well the Jenkins/Finch relationship worked out behind-the-scenes, but judging by Jenkins' work on Deadman, he had a bit more depth thjan his work on TDK would suggest.
     

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