"Action Comics (2011 Ongoing)" Series Talkback (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Comic Book Culture' started by James Harvey, Sep 7, 2011.

?

Rate and Comment - "Action Comics"

  1. *****

    62.5%
  2. ****1/2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. ****

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. ***1/2

    25.0%
  5. ***

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. **1/2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. **

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. *1/2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. *

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 1/2

    12.5%
  1. James Harvey

    James Harvey Administrator Administrator Moderator Reporter

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2001
    Messages:
    40,449
    Location:
    The World's Finest
    The roots of the all-new DC Universe are found here in Action Comics!

    ACTION COMICS #1

    [​IMG]

    Written by GRANT MORRISON
    Art by RAGS MORALES and RICK BRYANT


    The one and only Grant Morrison returns to Superman, joined by sensational artist Rags Morales, to bring you tales of The Man of Steel unlike any you’ve ever read! This extra-sized debut issue is the cornerstone of the entire DC Universe!

    Comments?
     
  2. suss2it

    suss2it New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2008
    Messages:
    11,086
    Location:
    Toronto
    This was a really good start to a new era of Superman. Thankfully it's not really an origin, like what a lot of people were saying, it's just about Superman's early days. For right now his "costume" does work for the story, but at the same time I can't wait to see Rag Morales draw the new one.

    As for some of the changes, it's interesting to see Clark start out a different newspaper, rather than the Daily Planet. Though I do wonder how him and Jimmy became best friends. Looking forward to seeing that play out. I also like the change in attitude in this Superman. You really get the whole "fighting for the people" vibe. Especially when the other people came to his defense against the army.

    Lex Luthor proves he's still brilliant. Really liked his plan to trap Superman. Definitely looking forward to #2.

    Oh, and that's not the cover for #1, that was just a promotional image. These are the actual covers:

    [​IMG][​IMG]

    ETA: DC has released the first look of the variant cover for Actions Comics #2 by Ethan Van Sciver.

     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2011
  3. Spider-Man

    Spider-Man Wallcrawler

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2002
    Messages:
    17,568
    Location:
    Web-Slinging
    I am on board for this comic! I was really blown away by it. It is definitely my favorite of the new DC comics so far. I like how is really harkens back to the roots of Superman but updates it without feeling forced. This Superman really does work well for our current age. This Superman is a crusader and Morrison really makes it work. How the Luthor subplot is going to play out really has me interested. I couldn't help but chuckle when I saw him downing that energy drink. The art was beautiful too. Morrison and Morales really hit it out of the park. This comic could be THE DC comic to beat!
     
  4. Bat-Fan Beyond

    Bat-Fan Beyond Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2008
    Messages:
    7,159
    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA, USA
    I gotta say, I was bit underwhelmed by this first issue. I guess I wanted more from it, and the disappointingly inconsistent art of Rags Morales didn't help. I was actually, and surprisingly, more impressed with Detective Comics this week -- with both story and art. And it's not because I'm a bigger fan of Batman than Superman, because, although that may be true, it's not by much; I love Superman! It's just that I expected more from Action Comics #1, especially since Grant Morrison is writing it and I love his All Star Superman series. I'll still be getting issue #2, but I hope it's better than this first issue.

    Also, I just wanted to say that I've read people criticizing with comments about young Superman/Clark Kent being a little like Spider-Man/Peter Parker in this issue, and although there is certainly a bit of an obvious similarity there, I really don't think it's anymore prominent than the similarities the characters have always shared. They both deal with the moral lesson of "With great power comes great responsibility." Stan Lee might have spelled it out for us in the pages of Spider-Man, but technically, that's the same message Superman has often stood for even before Spidey came along. Sure, this new Clark is a bit more cocky and taunting with the law, like Spidey tends to be, but in the end, he's still Superman, just a younger brash version of the character.

    If anything, the whole issue reminded more of The Incredible Hulk, with Supes being targeted by the military under the command of General Ross...er... I mean Lane.
     
  5. Astrolupine

    Astrolupine Man on the wing.

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2010
    Messages:
    2,571
    Location:
    St. John's, NL
  6. Wounded_Dragon

    Wounded_Dragon Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2002
    Messages:
    8,706
    Location:
    Indiana
    Honestly, I feel like buying that now just to spite those fools. And considering the other merchandise they care more than a little hypocritical.
     
  7. Jin Kazama

    Jin Kazama Hawkguy Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2002
    Messages:
    6,762
    Location:
    Somewhere Around Here..
    If you'll look a few posts after that, after hearing Grant's response on DC's website, he lifted the ban and is selling the comic again. (*Warning: Graphic Images Involved*)
     
  8. Shawn Hopkins

    Shawn Hopkins TZ Member of the Year 2013

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2002
    Messages:
    29,446
    Location:
    Winner's Circle
    Whoa, really disturbing images in that link, Jin. Maybe a warning? I don't know what Avatar's Crossed is, except that it looks like explicit and violent porn.

    Anyway, I don't want to get into the sticky wicket of arguing the why of the boycott, but it was certainly hasty to jump to conclusions the way that guy did, and he still sounds a bit annoyingly snotty even though he was in the wrong. Personally, I'd stop going to his store over this.
     
  9. Jin Kazama

    Jin Kazama Hawkguy Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2002
    Messages:
    6,762
    Location:
    Somewhere Around Here..
    Oops. Didn't even notice that. Put in the warning. Sorry to anyone that was offended.
     
  10. Manga4life

    Manga4life DYNAMITE's PULP FIESTA BLOG!!!

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2010
    Messages:
    6,739
    Location:
    U.S.A
    Okay, so I've read Action Comics #1 a few times now and while I did enjoy the storyline of the first issue, the art left a lot to be desired in my opinion. Maybe I was just too spoiled by Jim Lee's amazing pencils on Justic League #1 or by Tony Daniel's fantastic artistry in Detective Comics #1, but Rags Morales is just mediocre at best to me and I'm actually hoping that his stay on Action Comics is not very long. For what it's worth I dug his cover though....

    Anyhow, as far as the story goes I can say that I really enjoyed it and got something of a Spider-Man feeling from the book thanks to scenes like the landlord asking for rent money, and the funny quips Clark muttered here and there. It's cool, we now have a younger, hipper, Clark Kent/Superman and I'm all for that, just as long as they don't make him too "hip" I suppose. Fun read overall!
     
  11. Peter Paltridge

    Peter Paltridge Steven Sword! Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2003
    Messages:
    35,789
    Location:
    Stars Hollow
    Has it been explained how Superman can be five years younger (as well as a completely different Superman) yet Barbara Gordon can be even older at the same time?
     
  12. Shawn Hopkins

    Shawn Hopkins TZ Member of the Year 2013

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2002
    Messages:
    29,446
    Location:
    Winner's Circle
    It's just a side effect of the reality reboot. The compression on the Robins is more confusing for me. It seems like Dick Grayson would have only gotten to operate in the "Urban Legend" area, which means he wouldn't have met any other superheroes, let alone met all their sidekicks and formed the Teen Titans.
     
  13. Temple Fugate

    Temple Fugate New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2004
    Messages:
    12,252
    Location:
    Westchester
    I enjoyed this issue a little more than Justice League #1. Morrison set up an interesting story and gave a slightly disturbing edge to a young Superman. Am I the only one who sees this Clark as a composite of Old-Universe Clark and Connor? His heart's in the right place, but he's brash, foolhardy and untested. I liked the dialogue a lot, and Rags' art was perfectly fine by me. Luthor looks a little strange, but Rags isn't the first artist to alter his appearance in a quirky way.

    I want Superman to wear jeans all the time.
     
  14. suss2it

    suss2it New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2008
    Messages:
    11,086
    Location:
    Toronto
    This takes place 5 years before Batgirl. I think by #6 it'll be in the present with some flashbacks. Superman by Perez though, that's in the present from the beginning.
     
  15. Bat-Fan Beyond

    Bat-Fan Beyond Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2008
    Messages:
    7,159
    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA, USA
    Yes, but the question still remains... How long ago was it that Barbara first became Batgirl and when did she get shot by the Joker?

    I would say it's been between 2 to 3 years that Barbara first donned the cape and cowl, and only about a year or two that the events in The Killing Joke happened. Which means she wasn't Batgirl or Oracle very long at all.
     
  16. Adam Tyner

    Adam Tyner Amazing! Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2001
    Messages:
    5,322
    Location:
    Greenville, SC
    I don't have the issue in front of me, but I'm pretty sure it said Barbara has been in the wheelchair for three years. I don't think it's specified how long she was Batgirl before that. Not long, I'm sure.
     
  17. Jin Kazama

    Jin Kazama Hawkguy Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2002
    Messages:
    6,762
    Location:
    Somewhere Around Here..
    I had absolutely zero interest in getting this. Apparently my father did, though, as he bought it. Since he had it there, and it was at no cost to me, I figured "Eh, What The Heck!" and read it.

    It wasn't as bad as I expected it to be, but it wasn't exactly that great either. I did enjoy how the changes were introduced rather fluidly instead of just turning the page and it screaming "Hey! Here's A Change !" and instead just felt like a natural progression of the story. There were a few moments of it. Lois forcing emphasis on him working for a rival paper. But the majority of it felt natural.

    My main issue was with characterization. It felt like Lex was the only one that really felt right. Granted this is an origin story, close to the start of character, but I don't like a cocky Superman. I want to pull for him, not wait for someone to put him in his place. The story just felt like a showcase for it. The way it ended makes it seem like we may get to that point, but we can get a "rookie overcoming the odds" story without having him be a jerk.

    For a free read, I guess it was worth it just to see what they're planning here, but I wouldn't spend money on it.
     
  18. Chaos Yoshi Mage

    Chaos Yoshi Mage The Lonely Raven

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2009
    Messages:
    4,032
    Location:
    IL
    I've been following this reboot for awhile but haven't got to check out any of the comics until today. I had some spare cash and the grocery store had this so I got it. I have to say, I'm impressed. I haven't read much Superman (Or comics in general really...), I think all I've read is All-Star Superman and a collection of older Superman stories (I reprint of the first ones ever) when I was a kid. But, I've seen tons of the cartoons (Grew up with Superman: TAS and the Max Fleischer shorts) and the movies. This actually reminded me much more of the old comics despite having the same writer as All-Star.

    I'm loving the "social crusader" angle, it's a great way to modernize Superman while keeping him true to his roots. I know the upcoming movie uses the military angle, but I'd love it if it tried the "social crusader" thing too. Anyway, I'm definitely going to try to follow this monthly, I only follow one other comic monthly (The Young Justice tie-in) so it shouldn't be too hard.
     
  19. James Harvey

    James Harvey Administrator Administrator Moderator Reporter

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2001
    Messages:
    40,449
    Location:
    The World's Finest
    The roots of the all-new DC Universe continue to be built here in Action Comics!

    ACTION COMICS #2

    [​IMG]

    Written by GRANT MORRISON
    Art by RAGS MORALES and RICK BRYANT and BRENT ANDERSON


    n his weakest moment, Superman is taken down – but by whom? And if the world wasn’t ready for a man with super powers, they’re utterly unprepared for the rage of a Superman cornered! The cornerstone character of the new DCU continues his debut adventure!

    Comments?
     
  20. Bat-Fan Beyond

    Bat-Fan Beyond Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2008
    Messages:
    7,159
    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA, USA
    I enjoyed this issue a lot more than the first issue. The art is still inconsistent, but there were some really well-drawn panels here and there. The story seems to be developing in a direction I like, where hopefully we'll get more on Superman's Kryptonian origins.
     

Share This Page

Timing:
0.5530 seconds
Memory:
12.967 MB
DB Queries:
25