Enhance Your Power - Gundam SEED Destiny Talkback, Part 4 (SPOILERS!)

[GWOtaku]

posted by Juu-Kuchi:

Spoiler:

The question now on my mind is: What would incense the Archangel to pick up some guy in a crashed MS that they aren't sure they know. If the sequence in the opening with Murrue and Neo is not the case, and he's just picked up, it seems rather underwhelming. That and I wonder why Neo would just defect rather quickly. Yes he may be Mu, but then again his exposition in the series and apparent development as a character does not seem to correlate with him joining the AA just like that.

I still find it weird that this guy jumps ship after utilizing the three EA pilots to massacre numbers of soldiers on foot and in their MS, lets Junius 7 drop and takes footage of it for Blue Cosmos to blackmail ZAFT, is responsible for at least 30 Windam losses in the Indian Ocean, and pressures Yuna to continue fighting and fighting while Orb was in Eurasia.

Spoiler:

I agree. I do not think he will board willingly; far more likely is that he's taken as a prisoner, with AA figuring they can get information from him. What happens after that, we'll have to wait and see.

[Kaus]

Spoiler:

I think Neo will be taken prisoner, but after he is unmasked everyone will be in shock. While the AA is in Orb, Murrue will tell Neo how much he looks like his lost lover. If Neo is Mwu, he might slowly remember his past. If Neo is a clone, he might not know it yet, and it is Murrue that reveals the truth to him.

Originally Posted by Scirel

This brings up another point, could the unexpected person to help Athrun be Neo? But he never met him.. so he would recognize him as mwu..

Spoiler:

My theory with the Infinite Justice coincides with Athrun being rescued.

The Justice is brought to Earth by Gilbert, although concealed. Meer rescues Athrun after she learns he is captured. This is because Meer wants to do something as herself and not as Lacus. She then leads Athrun to the hidden Justice and perhaps even the new Freedom.

Has it been said somewhere whether the Destiny and Legend are battery or nuclear-powered suits?

I hope they dont introduce the Dom Troopers too late into the series.

[freedom-justice]

this makes me wander whos the final villan and wats there gundam/moble suit

[MeggieMay]

This is the collection of spoilers for 33 - 38 of GSD that I posted at AnimeOnDVD last night. They're originally from animesuki's board. Several repeats spoilers and several version of spoilers below. A general warning - the spoilers below are BIG spoilers for episodes 33 - 38. You've been warned!!! Look at them at you're own peril.

Second, most of the spoilers are reposted in Japanese at http://yannchan.blogspot.com/ The site has spoilers, so click their at your own risk as well.

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Translation from char.2log.net (I think this is a japanese language site)

PHASE-32

Spoiler:

"Stella"
European city county that receives indiscrimination attack to Destoroi. There is no art done in front of Destoroi though struggled to repulse by the arc angel in Berlin to stop the violence. Zaft decides the Minerva's dispatch to Berlin to an inhumane attack of the earth union ・・・ -.

PHASE-33

Spoiler:

"Shown world"
In such where it accommodates shooting down by being the previous war and dull Dullin announce a certain statement from the desire that Stella was not able to be defended to the hatred to freedom with the indiscrimination attack of the earth union for all parts of the world the other arc angel of Shin who burns.

Tscasadocou of scenario/Shigeru Morita both Sawa Chiaki continuity/U.S. Yoshi Tomo Sunaga Tamasahiro production/Nishiyama Aki character drawing supervisor/assistant of Kamada mechanism drawing supervisor/Yutaka Matsuda

PHASE-34

Spoiler:

"Nightmare"
Zaft and after, the cause of the war is cornered to king Ji stage though the arc angel determines the return to Orb to the confused situation in which the world is made for dull Dullin's named logos statements to be done in Flu. And, the instruction of the arc angel subjugation must give the Minerva.

Scenario/Yuichi Nomura both Sawa Chiaki continuity/Susumu Nishizawa production/Yoshimuraakira character drawing supervisor/Hachica Morishita mechanism drawing supervisor/Tetsu Yoshida Shimayouske

PHASE-35

Spoiler:

"Chaos ahead"
The arc angel of loss whole body Tsc accompanies in the sea and freedom is accompanied and dull Dullin who faces Orb accompanies Mea, and the Minerva whom it goes down to the confused earth in a previous statement enters Gibraltar and accepts new movable suit destiny and legend.

Scenario/Natsco Takahashi both Sawa Chiaki continuity/Satoshi Toba U.S. Yoshi Tomo production/Satoshi Toba character drawing supervisor/Kenichi Onuki mechanism drawing supervisor/Masanori Nishii

PHASE-36

Spoiler:

"Asran escape"

Scenario/Ono Kictsro both Sawa Chiaki continuity/Susumu Nishizawa production/character of Taiki Nishimura drawing supervisor/Susumu Yamaguchi mechanism drawing supervisor/having Sawactsro

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http://img262.echo.cx/img262/8733/ace8ho.jpg (from Dengeki)

Translation from MakubeX2

Translation :-

Ep 34

Spoiler:

Nightmare :-
Using a beautiful speech, the chancellor gains control of PLANT. He later gave order to Minerva to deal with Archangel. Minerval, taking the advantage that the AA is under pursuit by ZAFT forces, meets the AA on the battlefield.Talia thens tries diplomatically to talk AA into surrender.

Ep 35

Spoiler:

Before the Chaos :-
Shinn finally defeated his greatest enemy. Athrun, unable to conceal his feeling, beats Shinn up. But faced with Rey's argument that "Shinn was only trying to accomplished his mission.", he has nothing to answer for his action. Burdened with mixed feeling, Minerva arrived at Gibraltar. Shinn and Athrun was summoned by the chancellor who had arrived on Earth bearing a gift to the both of them......

Ep 36

Spoiler:

Athrun's Deflection :-
Jirbil, being reprimanded by LOGOs, left heavy hearted for Heaven Base in Iceland which ZAFT is preparing invasion for.Athrun, understanding the Chancellor's truth intention, prepares for a deflection to the AA. But he was caught doing so and was rescued by somebody he least expected.....

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Translation by Hiku

Phase 34

Spoiler:

"Nightmare"
Dullindal moves everyone in PLANT with his speach, and seizes full control.
He orders the supression of the Archangel. Athrun is very shocked by this news. Archangel was already in combat with another ZAFT unit when the Minerva appears. Talia, wanting to avoid battle, asks for their surrender.

Phase 35

Spoiler:

"Chaos ahead"
Shinn finally takes down his greatest enemy.
As for Athrun, this is an impossible task to accomplish. Athrun, who is unable to hold back his emotions, beats up Shinn. But he is unable to answer Ray in the argument he is given, that Shinn was just carrying out his duty. Minerva arrives at Gibraltar. Dullindal who has descended to Earth, wishes to speak with both Athrun and Shinn, and has a gift for both of them.

Phase 36

Spoiler:

"Athrun's escape"
Jibril's resposibility is questioned by Logos. In order to insure recovery, they move their forces to "the heavens base" of Iceland.
ZAFT are preparing an attack of this base. At this time, Athrun becomes aware of the true intention of Dullindal. He tries to escape, but many guns are aimed at him. During his escape, Athrun is rescued by an un-expected person.

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Hobby Magazine and Gunota

DESTINY spoilers
Ep34 -

Spoiler:

"Nightmare" - The world is shocked at Dullindal's statement. In the middle of the confusion, Archangel decides to return to Orb. However, Archangel is run down by ZAFT's forces. Minerva is also given order to attack Archangel.

Ep35 -

Spoiler:

"In the Light of Chaos" (*note* Hobby Japan has the title listed as "Ahead of Chaos")- Having lost Freedom, the badly damaged Archangel heads to Orb. Accompanying Dullindal, Meer goes to Earth. Minerva enters the port of Gibraltar and receives two new MS, Destiny and Legend.

Ep36 - [spoiler]Athrun Deserts[spoiler]
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Translation brightman, who gets extra kudos from me for first, noticing that this didn't get translated earlier and second, finally clearing up where that scan was from.

From Dengeki
Phase 33:

Spoiler:

Unable to protect Stellar, Shinn's hatred towards Freedom grows. On the other hand, ArchAngel picks up Neo who crashes in the last battle. Meanwhile Dullindal announces to the world about the Earth Alliance's indiscrinination attacks and makes a certain statement.

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From sherry, who said "Spoiler from TV Station and Magazine Z. It has been translated by Phione from another forum."

TV Station
5/28 PHASE-32

Spoiler:

Trying to end Destroy's attempt to annilate cities after cities, Minerva arrived at the scene only to see Freedom engaging Destroy while the ZAFT force lay in ruin. Piloting Impulse, Shinn joined force with Kira. As the two went on battling Destroy, Neo shouted "The Pilot is Stellar!"

6/4 PHASE-33

Spoiler:

Because of Kira's involvement, Stellar perished. Unable to protect her, Shinn swears for revenge to her remains. At the same time, Archangel's crew was surprised to know that the Neo in their custody is actually the persumed-dead Mwu La Fllaga. On the other hand, Durandall started a new campaign...

Magazine Z
33

Spoiler:

While sinking the remains of his beloved, Shinn swears to take revenge on Kira. Athrun seems perplexed with this side of Shinn. To change the status quo, Durandall announced something stunning to the entire world.

34

Spoiler:

While his stunning speech sends out a shockwave around the world, Durandall ordered Minerva to pursuit the Archangel. With revenge in mind, Shinn confronted Freedome with some special plan in mind.

35

Spoiler:

Shinn was greeted for his success. However, Athrun, with questions about the campaign against Archangel, continue to waver. On the other hand, the chairman's speech are making significant impact on the world.

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Translated by tenma616 (who applogized for possible errors) - this is probably one of the official summeries.

“Mobile Suit Gundam SEED DESTINY” Episode 33:

Spoiler:

Revelation to the World

(Voice Roles)
Shinn Asuka ...................Ken’ichi Suzumura
Athrun Zala ....................Akira Ishida
Gilbert Dullindal .............Shuichi Ikeda
Talia Gladys ...................Mami Koyama
Cagalli Yula Athha ...........Naomi Shindoh
Lunamaria Hawke ...........Maaya Sakamoto
Rey Za Burrel..................Toshihiko Seki
Lord Djibril......................Hideyuki Hori
Neo Lorrnoke (Mwu).........Takehito Koyasu
Kira Yamato....................Souichiro Hoshi
Murrue Ramius................Kotono Mitsuishi
Meer Canpbell.................Rie Tanaka
Arthur Trine....................Hiroki Takahashi
Meyrin Hawke.................Fumiko Orisaka
Vino Dupre.....................Hisafumi Oda
Yolant Kent.....................Tomokazu Sugita
Kojiro Murdoch................Toshihiko Nakajima
Others

(Synopsis)
Stellar (Houko Kuwashima) died. She was killed by the hands of the Freedom Gundam. To Shinn (Ken’ichi Suzumura) that was the reality. Destroy and Stellar were enemies of ZAFT. However, once again someone Shinn tried to protect was killed before his eyes. He vows revenge to her remains.

For the Archangel something extraordinary happens at that moment. They saved the Earth Alliance Officer, Neo Lorrnoke (Takehito Koyasu) from the battlefield. The face hidden behind the mask was Mwu La Fllaga, the compatriot who died on the last battle of the former war and the lover of the Captain Murrue Ramius (Kotono Mitsuishi).

Meanwhile at PLANT, Dullindal (Shuichi Ikeda) is thinking about his next move...

[Kaus]

ZOMG. Best GSD DVD cover.

Originally Posted by MeggieMay

Spoiler:

Stellar (Houko Kuwashima) died. She was killed by the hands of the Freedom Gundam. To Shinn (Ken’ichi Suzumura) that was the reality.

This says it all. *shakes head*

[Demonic Raven]

Whoa...that's alot of stuff MeggieMay!

Spoiler:

Athrun gets saved? Like how? The way I percieved it was that someone stops Athrun from defecting. So...maybe he doesn't actually defect?

[Duke]

That is a nice cover.

And for once in my life, I'm going to avoid the spoilers...

[Kaus]

Originally Posted by Demonic Raven

Whoa...that's alot of stuff MeggieMay!

Spoiler:

Athrun gets saved? Like how? The way I percieved it was that someone stops Athrun from defecting. So...maybe he doesn't actually defect?

Spoiler:

It was said in the synopsis that Athrun defects, he gets caught and then he gets surprised when an unexpected person rescues him from being caught.

Dont worry Duke, just different versions of 33-36 synopsis.

Originally Posted by freedom justice

this makes me wander whos the final villan and wats there gundam/moble suit

Probably Shinn.

Originally Posted by GWOtaku

My theory is that Strike Freedom is either a mobile suit under construction that Lacus will receive from sympathizers or will attempt to Gundamjack with Andy's help, or a unused design they are aware of that they will decide to develop in secret with allied help. Kinda like WingZERO--an original design from which another Gundam (Freedom) was designed, making the Strike Freedom the "true" Freedom Gundam design made possible through technological advances.

Wing Zero was Gundam Series 00
Wing Gundam was Gundam Series 01

Freedom is ZGMF-X10A
Strike Freedom is ZGMF-X20A

But the Freedom was definately built before Strike Freedom. It is possible but unlikely that the Freedom may have been developed based on Strike Freedom. I dont think they were that advanced on CE71.

[Kryptonian]

Fantastic cover. I hope that's an implication that they'll survive for the rest of this series.

[NickWhiz1]

The cover needs a little less Cagalli, but otherwise perfect. Gogogo ninja Lacus!

Man, there's going to be a lot of stuff going on in the next few episodes as we head towards mid-series upgrade time. Tomorrow's episode should be especially tasty, as we get another big three-way confrontation between Phantom Pain/EF, Minerva, and Archangel.

I'm expecting to head back up to space around Episode 40 or so, similar to SEED. Of course, I wouldn't be shocked if they threw us a curveball and had the final arc on Earth. To the best of my knowledge, that hasn't happened that often in Gundam TV series (read: never, IIRC).

[Kaus]

Originally Posted by NickWhiz1

I'm expecting to head back up to space around Episode 40 or so, similar to SEED. Of course, I wouldn't be shocked if they threw us a curveball and had the final arc on Earth. To the best of my knowledge, that hasn't happened that often in Gundam TV series (read: never, IIRC).

Victory Gundam, the final battle on the Angel Halo takes place on Earth.

[ef50515]

That is a great cover. I hope that that'll be one of the covers Bandai decides to use for the region 1 release.

[HellCat]

Nice cover. Gives fans some eyecandy whilst still presenting the characters as respectable (Luna and Stellar, I hope you're taking notes)

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Originally Posted by HellCat

Nice cover. Gives fans some eyecandy whilst still presenting the characters as respectable (Luna and Stellar, I hope you're taking notes)

Don't talk bad about Luna.

[HellCat]

Originally Posted by KuwabaraTheMan

Don't talk bad about Luna.

Bah. Your precious Luna is but a rank amatuer

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Originally Posted by HellCat

Bah. Your precious Luna is but a rank amatuer

Better than Miriallia.



OH SNAP.

[NickWhiz1]

Originally Posted by KuwabaraTheMan

Better than Miriallia.



OH SNAP.

And with that, KuwabaraTheMan gets IP banned from GOUF

[HellCat]

Originally Posted by KuwabaraTheMan

Better than Miriallia.



OH SNAP.

....

You have no chance to survive. Make your time.

*sound of wooshing knife of plot convenience*

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Originally Posted by NickWhiz1

And with that, KuwabaraTheMan gets IP banned from GOUF

......oops.

[Riza Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by Hildebrand

ZOMG. Best GSD DVD cover.

That would be awesome if it were the cover for Vol.6 of Destiny. This is the actual cover:



I'm not sure what that's a cover to, because not a DVD cover for the sixth volume.