CN Ratings Thread: Part 5

[Mugen]

The last thread reached over 500 posts, which means its time for a new thread.


With the premiere of the new Ben 10 live-action movie happening soon, I thought it would be a good idea to look at how well the first one did for CN:

Ben 10: Race Against Time Attracts 13 Million Different Viewers 2+ Across the Thanksgiving Weekend
November 28, 2007
Ben 10: Race Against Time continued to show its muscle across the Thanksgiving weekend as the original live-action movie special drew more than 13 million different viewers ages 2+ across its Thanksgiving weekend presentations (Nov. 21-25), according to preliminary data from Nielsen Media Research. The Wednesday night premiere (Nov. 21, 8 p.m.) scored as the #1 telecast of the week on cable and broadcast television among boys 6-11 and boys 2-11. Ben 10: Race Against Time also set new records as the most-watched telecast in Cartoon Network history. Additionally, Cartoon Network posted its most-watched day ever in total day delivery—Wednesday, Nov. 21—with kids 6-11 (785,000), kids 2-11 (1,101,000), boys 6-11 (615,000) and boys 2-11 (840,000).
Coupled with the premiere, encore presentations of Ben 10: Race Against Time on Wednesday (9:30 p.m.), Friday (8 p.m.), Saturday (10 a.m. and 7:30 p.m.) and Sunday (6 p.m.) attracted 13,032,000 unduplicated viewers ages 2+. The Saturday morning airing also lifted the branded morning franchise "Dynamite Action Squad" (Saturdays, 9 a.m.-12 p.m.) by double-digits across kids 6-11 (both delivery and ratings up 18%), kids 2-11 (delivery up 10%, ratings up 11%), boys 6-11 (delivery up 20%, ratings up 18%) and boys 2-11 (delivery up 16%, ratings up 15%).
Highlights of Ben 10: Race Against Time's premiere performance vs. the same time period last year include the following:
Ben 10: Race Against Time Premiere (Wednesday, 8 p.m.) vs. the same 2006 time period

• • Persons 2+ delivery (3,987,000) increased by 86%, and ratings (1.4) by 75%—best performance in Cartoon Network history
• • Kids 6-11 delivery (1,466,000) grew by 115%, and ratings (6.0) by 114%—top delivery since Nov. 2001
• • Kids 2-11 delivery (2,084,000) improved by 137%, and ratings (5.2) by 136—top performance since Jan. 2002
• • Boys 6-11 delivery (1,210,000) expanded by 122%, and ratings (9.7) by 120%—tied best performance in 2001
• • Boys 2-11 delivery (1,621,000) catapulted by 142%, and ratings (7.9) by 139%—best performance in Cartoon Network history

Ben 10: Race Against Time is Cartoon Network's first live-action made-for-TV movie based on its hit animated action-adventure series, Ben 10, about a young boy, who with the flick of a powerful alien wristwatch (The Omnitrix) can turn into 10 different aliens with amazing superpowers.

Only time will tell on how well the second one will do.

[Mr. Freeze]

Idk if im gonna watch the movie but i know it will get alot of views and they say its suppose to be based off of Ben 10: Evolutions.

[Cheese]

Wait a sec when does the new one air again?

Oh and in response to someone in the previous ratings thread.

Originally Posted by macattack

Kids died by copying Pokemon too. It's something that happens a lot when a property becomes popular no matter what it is. People died from copying Power Rangers. People died from copying Tom & Jerry.

Seriously, come on

I Google "Kid's die from copying Pokemon"
"Kids die from coping Power Ranger"
And "Kid dies from copying Tom & Jerry."

No result....

Just results of the kid dying from Washington.

[miraimike]

miraimike:
Oh man, I just had a thought:
What if Programming is running crappy marathons now on purpose to suppress viewer ratings. Then, next year, they can put out a "New CN Real shows improve CN's ratings 250% over same time last year" press release.

Zimbach:
That would be consistent with what I've already said about this year's CN Real premieres.

What metaphor works for this strategy? Crop rotation?
There is probably something in my old Logic and Rhetoric textbook to describe this line of faulty reasoning.

I can imagine what they're thinking: if CN Real is the future, then what use is there in pushing animation? To the CN executives, the channel, as it was previously, simply exists as a springboard to their next endeavor. There's no loyalty to being an animation channel, so what use is there in promoting cartoons? At worst, if a new cartoon gets really popular and all the Real shows fail, it'll just interfere with the transition. Why would TNN have promoted country music right before it became National Network or Spike? In their world, they think of their cartoon catalog the same way that we think of their CN Real line.

If the CN Real shows can't be successful compared to Nick, CN can drop their animation viewer ratings so much that their CN Real shows do better their cartoons. At least they'll be able to celebrate about that.

[Rho]

How have the ratings for Stoked, 10 Count, and Re: Evolution of Sports been?


Also, from the previous thread..

Yeh but didn't a kid die from copying Naruto.

Actually, he did.

[AnimationX]

Originally Posted by miraimike

I can imagine what they're thinking: if CN Real is the future, then what use is there in pushing animation? To the CN executives, the channel, as it was previously, simply exists as a springboard to their next endeavor. There's no loyalty to being an animation channel, so what use is there in promoting cartoons? At worst, if a new cartoon gets really popular and all the Real shows fail, it'll just interfere with the transition. Why would TNN have promoted country music right before it became National Network or Spike? In their world, they think of their cartoon catalog the same way that we think of their CN Real line.

If the CN Real shows can't be successful compared to Nick, CN can drop their animation viewer ratings so much that their CN Real shows do better their cartoons. At least they'll be able to celebrate about that.

Thats such a warped way of looking at things yet so entirely true. CN exec's most likely don't care what the viewers think and they probably arre just going to ignore the fact that their live action show's have failed and just come up with a new crop of live action shows that they feel will be the success they need or want. Well eventually are they not going to have to look at these figured and see that crop A,B,C & D failed and now it's time for a new strategy?

My only hopes is that whatever new strategy they come up with will be good and entertaining instead of trying to reinvent the wheel and screw with the formula. I will never understand why the hell CN can't just let it be and go back to their roots, how hard can it be?

[Milligan]

Originally Posted by AnimationX

Thats such a warped way of looking at things yet so entirely true. CN exec's most likely don't care what the viewers think and they probably arre just going to ignore the fact that their live action show's have failed and just come up with a new crop of live action shows that they feel will be the success they need or want. Well eventually are they not going to have to look at these figured and see that crop A,B,C & D failed and now it's time for a new strategy?

My only hopes is that whatever new strategy they come up with will be good and entertaining instead of trying to reinvent the wheel and screw with the formula. I will never understand why the hell CN can't just let it be and go back to their roots, how hard can it be?

To the current regime in charge, it's impossible for them to go bakc to their creative and free-thinking roots. It's all greed and bad ideas in there.

I can only hope there is an internal conflict and the people we want to win are the ones really winning.
As it is, whatever's going on in CN, is bad for buisness, for morale, and for creativity's sake.

[AnimationX]

Originally Posted by Milligan

To the current regime in charge, it's impossible for them to go bakc to their creative and free-thinking roots. It's all greed and bad ideas in there.

I can only hope there is an internal conflict and the people we want to win are the ones really winning.
As it is, whatever's going on in CN, is bad for buisness, for morale, and for creativity's sake.

The problem is that those within CN don't see it that way, they see everything thing they do as a direct result to better ratings and they think it's for the greater good. But the numbers are showing otherwise and eventually they will have to see that their efforts are not working and then it will be back to the drawing board.....literally.

[miraimike]

Originally Posted by AnimationX

The problem is that those within CN don't see it that way, they see everything thing they do as a direct result to better ratings and they think it's for the greater good. But the numbers are showing otherwise and eventually they will have to see that their efforts are not working and then it will be back to the drawing board.....literally.

...or they'll eventually just become another generic teenage G4 or Spike clone and be satisfied with that.

[AnimationX]

Originally Posted by miraimike

...or they'll eventually just become another generic teenage G4 or Spike clone and be satisfied with that.

To me it seems as if CN's goal and push is to get more ratings and I think they felt as if trying to become a Nick/Disney clone was the best course of action, but it failed and they want to make one final attepmt to make it work out for them. I have the feeling that if they fail again, which they will, they will have no choice to go back to animation and/or look for something else to build their viewerbase up, but I don't think they will be satisfied with becoming a network with subpar ratings and lackluster programming.

CN wants to be good and they are making these moves thinking that thats what people want to see, but eventually when it keeps failing they will finally see that it isn't working and they will have no choice but to do something different. It's really only a matter of time until someone important is fired over this, it's inevetable that Turner wont allow this to keep on, it can't keep going because they will see less $$$ because of it and Turner loves money.

[miraimike]

Originally Posted by AnimationX

To me it seems as if CN's goal and push is to get more ratings and I think they felt as if trying to become a Nick/Disney clone was the best course of action, but it failed and they want to make one final attepmt to make it work out for them. I have the feeling that if they fail again, which they will, they will have no choice to go back to animation and/or look for something else to build their viewerbase up, but I don't think they will be satisfied with becoming a network with subpar ratings and lackluster programming.

CN wants to be good and they are making these moves thinking that thats what people want to see, but eventually when it keeps failing they will finally see that it isn't working and they will have no choice but to do something different. It's really only a matter of time until someone important is fired over this, it's inevetable that Turner wont allow this to keep on, it can't keep going because they will see less $$$ because of it and Turner loves money.

If they can grab cell phone and sports advertisers, then they'd be successful, even with middling viewership numbers. Snyder's interview a month or so ago said as much. Success won't be defined by the amount of CN Real shows or cartoons you see on the channel. Success, to Cartoon Network, will be defined by the amount of ads geared towards teens that you see. That's the final goal for the CN execs; CN Real is just their roadmap.

[Mugen]

Some Clone Wars news:

CARTOON NETWORK

• Following solid gains for the Season 2 premiere compared to the same time period last year, Lucasfilm’s STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS (Friday, 8 p.m.) earned considerable double-digit delivery and ratings gains across all kids demos. Delivery of kids 2-11 (1,116,000) increased by 50%, delivery of kids 6-11 (851,000) increased by 79% and delivery of kids 9-14 (624,000) increased by 75%. Boys demos proved even stronger with boys 2-11 delivery (835,000) advancing by 65%, boys 6-11 delivery (677,000) by 81% and boys 9-14 delivery (536,000) by 91%.

[swarlock]

Originally Posted by AnimationX

My only hopes is that whatever new strategy they come up with will be good and entertaining instead of trying to reinvent the wheel and screw with the formula. I will never understand why the hell CN can't just let it be and go back to their roots, how hard can it be?

They can't and for that I can only feel disgust for their getting more greedy.

I believe in Karma.

[Silver]

[John Dorian]

What does that have to do with ratings?

[Rho]

Originally Posted by Silver

xD

Someone send that to Turner.

[Survive]

Originally Posted by Mugen

Some Clone Wars news:

I'm not surprised that Star Wars does well and is still gaining in ratings. Cartoon Networks airs ads for that show more times than all of their other shows combined.

Not including the new Ben 10 movie of course since it's just there until November. Or maybe you could include it.

[Silver]

Originally Posted by John Dorian

What does that have to do with ratings?

Nothing.

[Cia]

Is there a way to find out if PMD:EOS did okay? I mean, it was the lead-in for Star Wars, and I'd like to know if the Specials are doing good enough for CN to consider bugging Japan to make PMD a full miniseries.

[~Shoяe]

Originally Posted by Rho

xD

Someone send that to Turner.

You do realize that's only from 4 results, amrite?