Drawn Together Talkback - "Terms of Endearment" - Page 2

Merrick Bill · #21 01-26-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Mike

To Merrick Bill: You cannot tell me the first act ending break wasn't a refrence to Spongebob, with Opposite Day and all. All it missed was an angry Squidward yelling "Oppsoite Day" in the background.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to tell you exactly that. As far as I know, none of the writers were aware of the Spongebob "Opposite Day" episode. We were simply trying to be juvenile. The original version of that scene had Wooldoor simply telling the others about the brain tumor. We were looking for a joke to twist it a little and someone pitched opposite day (which, by the way, the network hated -- they thought it skewed too young and made Drawn Together seem like a kid's show).

Bill

Merrick Bill · #22 01-26-2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tb4000

Man, that ending was....bizzare, even by my standards. O_o

There was a scene which was cut for time (and also because we thought it didn't come out all that funny) which came between the big bang and the boob people wherein Captain Hero was pushing a proto sea creature out of the ocean and onto land to help speed up evolution because he was getting bored. That may have helped explain Captain Hero's hand in evolution, but, in the end, we didn't think it was necessary.

Bill

Merrick Bill · #23 01-26-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Juu-kuchi

Didn't they plan to have a scene where Captain Hero was thrown off a horse to lose his powers?

That scene was completely animated but the network wouldn't let us air it. They thought it was too harsh (although it really wasn't). In the scene, Hero climbs on a horse. The horse rears up and Captain Hero gently slides off the horse and directly into the wheel chair.

After we lost the use of that shot, we tried to have the sound of a horse winnie inside The Pillow Fort of Isolation while Hero was giving up his powers. The network nixed that as well. However, there is the sound of a Horse winne over the "Double Hemm" production logo at the end of the episode.

Bill

Merrick Bill · #24 01-26-2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonBoy

I think that Spanky and the Black guy in the car was right about society with those racist cartoons, I mean everyone has a deep feeling of racism, but people don't like to admit it.

That was really the point of doing the episode. Don't sweep this stuff under the rug. Talk about it. Keep it out in the open. Question it. Never Forget.

By the way, "the Black guy in the car" was named Malcom Xposition because he baldly filled in a lot of the blanks at that pont in the story. We were planning to put his name on screen but we stopped doing that stuff after the first season. So no one but you guys know his real name.

Bill

RayChuang · #25 01-26-2006, 10:50 AM

Bill,

Question: will this episode be re-done in an uncensored version when it comes out on DVD as part of the Season 2 set?

Juu-kuchi · #26 01-26-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Merrick Bill

That scene was completely animated but the network wouldn't let us air it. They thought it was too harsh (although it really wasn't). In the scene, Hero climbs on a horse. The horse rears up and Captain Hero gently slides off the horse and directly into the wheel chair.
Bill

Wow. That's it? I thought it'd be a bit more graphic (the horse would actually be a bit violent and then Hero will fall down, break his neck, in a rather gruesome fashion).

candy17 · #27 01-26-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonBoy

I think that Spanky and the Black guy in the car was right about society with those racist cartoons, I mean everyone has a deep feeling of racism, but people don't like to admit it.

Yeah, especially the black guy who said that people are just as racist now, but they pretend they're not. What Spanky said about the racial stereotypes in old cartoons is what everyone who's against censoring the classic cartoons for racial and ethnic characters says about it, including me.

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For some reason Mickey being the leader was disturbing, considering that most disney cartoons had a racial facial expression according to the Encyclopedia on this website, and disturbing overtones in it's movies.

Yeah. Disney cartoons have racial and ethnic stereotypes in them just like the toons from WB, MGM, and others. If the leader were some uptight censor in a nice suit or a soccer mom-type who's not a very good parent, then I'd believe it.

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What Superman Movie did the ending trick come from anyway?

I think Superman 3 had the trick where Superman revolves the world backwards in order to save Lois Lane from a car accident.

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Does anyone find it ironic that they talked about a vault where censored cartoons are hidden away in an episode that wasn't allowed to air for a year?

Ironic isn't the word for it. Appropriate is more like it.

Merrick Bill · #28 01-26-2006, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Juu-kuchi

Wow. That's it? I thought it'd be a bit more graphic (the horse would actually be a bit violent and then Hero will fall down, break his neck, in a rather gruesome fashion).

That's it. We wanted it to be funny, not gruesome.

Bill

Treadwell · #29 01-26-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Mike

The original Mickey Mouse was a pretty bad racial stereotype as well as he had a thing for beating up black people

Not at all true.

Rook · #30 01-26-2006, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Merrick Bill

That's it. We wanted it to be funny, not gruesome.

Bill

i take it thats why foxy's lightsaber didnt slice her up in that masturbation scene a while ago?

interesting, you can say mouse but not mickey or mickey but not mouse.

MGFanJay · #31 01-26-2006, 02:37 PM

I loved the episode, although the "NOOOOOOO!"s got a little old. The stereotypes were perfectly done though, and as a Speedy Gonzales fan, I loved those references. Wooldoor being psychotic was funny as well.

mobo85 · #32 01-26-2006, 03:31 PM

Everything that can be said about this episode pretty much has (and more- "Malcolm Xposition," now that's clever!) so I'll just quote one of the funniest lines (at least for me):

"Mah feets! Dey failin' me now!"

OneManHairBand · #33 01-26-2006, 04:05 PM

A question for Bill:

Since this was a held over episode from S1, why was it not included on the S1 DVD set? And thusly, will it be included on the S2 DVD set?

Merrick Bill · #34 01-26-2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RayChuang

Bill,

Question: will this episode be re-done in an uncensored version when it comes out on DVD as part of the Season 2 set?

It will be on the season 2 DVD. The degree of re-editing will depend on things which can't even be predicted at this point. I would hope that the horse scene will be restored, but who knows whether or not Comedy Central will stop digging their heels in over something so minor?

Bill

Merrick Bill · #35 01-26-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Parco

Good episode last night, looking forward to the remainder of Season Two. And big thanks to Bill for being kind enough to hang out here and field all our questions, of which I have a couple of my own, if it's no trouble:

1) Of the eight DT housemates, who was the first character created, and who was the last? (By the show's creators, not in the fictional DT world - that would be Toot and probably Spanky, I'm guessing.)

2) Were there any ideas for housemates that didn't make the cut, or were rejected for some reason?

The project evolved in a manner that makes it difficult to answer either of these questions. The characters were basically created all at once. Meaning that from the beginning the creators knew there'd be a super hero, a disney character, a kid's show character, a video game character, etc. Also, there were specific reality show types that the creators wanted to include. Then it was just mix and match.

Then the characters are adjusted and readjusted. In early versions, Wooldoor was a manic depressive drug addict, Clara had blonde hair, Captain Hero was a 1970s super hero instead of a 1990s super hero. For a short while Clara and Xandir were going to be "Ross and Rachel". Once voice actors are cast the characters change again. The characters evolve constantly. It's not as cut and dried as "this one came first, this one came second."

Hope that helps.

Bill

Merrick Bill · #36 01-26-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rook

interesting, you can say mouse but not mickey or mickey but not mouse.

That was more a joke than a legal requirement.

Bill

Merrick Bill · #37 01-26-2006, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OneManHairBand

Since this was a held over episode from S1, why was it not included on the S1 DVD set? And thusly, will it be included on the S2 DVD set?

Because it didn't air during season one. When it looked as though the episode would never ever air on Comedy Central there was talk that it would included as a bonus feature on the season one dvd. But once Comedy Central agreed to air it, it was considered a season two show. It will be on the season two dvd with the other season two shows.

It's not uncommon to hold over shows. Every year The Simpsons holds over episodes from one season to the next. Those episodes are considered to be from the season they aired, not the season they were produced.

Bill

OneManHairBand · #38 01-26-2006, 04:58 PM

One last comment to Bill:

Whoever thought up the "Empire Strikes Back" parody of M. Mouse as Vader...

Sheer brilliance.

Tobias · #39 01-26-2006, 05:01 PM

Pretty good episode, although next week's looks to be even funnier.

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Originally Posted by candy17

I think Superman 3 had the trick where Superman revolves the world backwards in order to save Lois Lane from a car accident.

That was from Superman I actually.

Merrick Bill · #40 01-26-2006, 05:18 PM

Those of you who have video Ipods (or want to watch Drawn Together on your computer) All the season 2 episodes that have aired so far are now available on itunes for $1.99 each. Take Drawn Together with you whereever you go and keep it in your heart.

Bill