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    WHO remembers LINUS THE LIONHEARTED?

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    A brilliantly hilarious & well written animated series of the early 1960's , made by the ED GRAHAM STUDIOS(Whatever happened to THEM? ), and starring the voices of SHELDON LEONARD (In the Eponymous Lead Role), CARL REINER, & STERLING HOLLOWAY (The former two never before & never again to perform in animation; LEONARD, by the way, was a B-movie gangster..and later was famous for creating/producing/financing classic series like "I SPY", "The ANDY GRIFFITH Show", et. al. ; REINER is STILL a name of much renown having worked extensivley with SID CEASAR & IMOGENE COCA in early TV)

    The series was sponsored by POST CEREALS..indeed the characters featured in the series were also "mascots" for the various POST brands out at that time..which ultimately was the "kiss of death" for the series..when the FCC decreed that it was "nothing more than a 30-minute long commercial advertisement" (When you think about contemporary shows such as "SONIC The HEDGEHOG", "TRANSFORMERS", etc.---all you can say is "HOW MUCH HAS CHANGED!" )

    The series has NEVER, EVER seen ANY type of rebroadcast (Due to the fact that the ads & programme proper were so VERY closely intertwined, & therefore, pretty much unable to have the ad parts edited out) anywhere in the States....I DO pose the query: Has this show been exhibited at any animation conventions anywhere in the USA or abroad?

    It would indeed be a GAS to take a little nostalgic trip back and enjoy this programme in SOME form or other once again..
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    I don't really remember it as I wasn't alive 'til 1990,I do remember looking it up though and it looked okay.

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    I remember that show. My favorite character in it was Sugar Bear- nothing could shake that guy.

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    I, too, have never seen it but am familiar with it. I did mamage to snag a few ads from a collector.(Crispy Critters, anyway.) It sounds like it was a great show. I also have a few Sugar Bear ads with his enemy, Granny Good-Witch. Hilarious!

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    Give THIS website a try: http://www.toontracker.com and click on the various LINUS The LIONHEARTED video & audio links, there's the Theme Song fro the show; and episode called "REMEMBER The BRIDS?" (It just HAD to be one that I DISTINCTLY remember from childhood, eh?)...

    Just ENJOY, eh??

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    Yeah I loved that show as a kid. Funny as all get out. It may have been mostly to push Post cereal but still was a funny, and wel scripted show. Lots of grown up sort of aside comments by Linus and gang made it even funnier.


    I'd love to see someone run it somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackaybear View Post
    I'd love to see someone run it somewhere.
    Would INDEED be GREAT to see, effendi...

    Even the show's original producer/director ED GRAHAM was apparently keen on the idea....for sometime in the 1980's he tried to get an EDITED* version of all 39 episodes of LINUS syndicated ..

    (*That's "EDITED" as in all the references to then-sponsor POST/GENERAL FOODS would be expunged from the programmes [ALL of the characters were POSST CEREAL mascots from the box fronts - and ironically, of all of them, only SUGAR BEAR ,SUPER <GOLDEN> CRISP still survives today..])

    GRAHAM died several years ago...and I've no idea WHO owns the rights to the show to-day...

    Ennyhoo, here are the ORIGINAL FULL-LENGHT OPENING and CLOSING SEQUENCES....in GLORIOUS MONOCHROME!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq4JSNC_wLg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XEm7dEpykg

    As an aside, the Signature Tunes & Incidental Music were all composed by HANNA-BARBERA composer HOYT CURTIN..

    And, as a kind of slap in the face towards rival cereal giants KELLOGG, the studio enlisted the services of one THURL RAVENSCROFT - better known as the Original TONY The TIGER - to provide back-up vocals....

    And it was the GREATEST AGGREGATION OF TALENT **EVER** ASSEMBLED for ANY half-hour series....live or animated.....JONATHAN WINTERS, CARL REINER, STERLING HOLLOWAY, JERRY STILLER and ANNE MEARA, RUTH BUZZI...and, of course, in the famed lead role...none other than SHELDON LEONARD!

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    I think I looked it up once but I have never seen it.
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    I've not seen this show before either (as I suspect most people on Toonzone who are under 40 probably haven't), but have read about it, and seen the opening/closing credits on YouTube---pretty catchy theme song/opening...

    Yeah, all the characters were from the then-contemporary Post cereals... from looking it up online (particularly here: http://www.lavasurfer.com/cereal-post.html) :

    - Linus promoted "Crispy Critters", which they apparently brought back in the 80's (with a Jimmy Durante-sounding mascot instead of Linus), as I recall from childhood... also recall they tasted awful (apparently unlike the 60's version, the version from the 80's didn't have much sugar...).

    - So-Hi, a stereotypical (judging from the looks of him/the cartoon's introduction) Asian youth who promoted something called "Sugar Coated Rice Krinkles", which I assume is something akin to Frosted Rice Krispies (when Kellogg's bothers to produce that Rice Krispies variant).

    - Sugar Bear and Granny Goodwitch (Sugar's nemesis) promoted Sugar Crisp (nowadays dubbed "Golden Crisp"), with Sugar the only character on this series still used today (though been awhile since I've seen a Sugar Bear TV commercial...guess his name must be off-putting...).

    - Lovable Truly was a mailman who promoted Alpha-Bits (letters... which mailmen deliver... get it?).

    - Rory Raccoon promoted Post Toasties (their name for ordinary corn flakes).

    The series was sponsored by POST CEREALS..indeed the characters featured in the series were also "mascots" for the various POST brands out at that time..which ultimately was the "kiss of death" for the series..when the FCC decreed that it was "nothing more than a 30-minute long commercial advertisement" (When you think about contemporary shows such as "SONIC The HEDGEHOG", "TRANSFORMERS", etc.---all you can say is "HOW MUCH HAS CHANGED!" )
    That's because the FCC deregulated such children's TV advertising restrictions in the early-to-mid 1980's, thus leading to the spate of 30-minute-commercials-as-TV shows that've come down the pike since then.

    Still, I imagine what's probably keeping Linus off the air is either A) whoever it is that owns the series (if it's Post, they probably don't care about a 40-year-old TV show with mascots they mostly don't use anymore, half of them pushing cereals they don't make anymore or have long since stopped using anything cartoonish to promote [see: Post Toasties, which for long as I can remember had a generic "adult" look to the box]), and/or B) a lack of market for old cartoons being aired on TV period (outside of Boomerang, nobody seems to want to air any cartoons older than first-season "Simpsons" these days, if *that* old), and/or C) the character of So-Hi being an unacceptable/dated stereotype by today's broadcast standards.

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    Remembered

    Yes, I did watch this series in my formidable teen years. My slightly younger brother actually had more interest in the series than I did. He even went so far as to make audio recordings of some of the shows musical numbers. The one I have left, on tape, is "The Coconut" ("do the coconut").

    I thought the show was a bit different from the usual Saturday morning fare I was watching at the time. It contained more dialogue, almost as though it was a stand up comedy routine with "off the wall" characters. One written sourse, I have, put their per week budget at $87,000, which was triple the standard Saturday morning program budget.

    Two things in particular standout in my memrory of the show. The closing credit sequence where, I think it was Billie the Bird, mops up a spotlight image on the stage floor and one particular commercial where Linus first meets and is teesed by LoLita LaCheeta while Linus is trying to promote Crispy Critters cereal. Otherwise I haven't seen the show since it left the air in 1969.

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    It was both an interesting and fun show.


    As you point out on another forum outside, Hoyt Curtin left HB to do specific music for this,possibly for each episode (series star Sheldon Leonard at least did it that way for his own show.). Some of the music is SIMILAIR to what he did, and it was STILL in those innocent days pre-Scooby Doo (which is Paul DeKorte, Marty Paich, Mike Curb and Ted Nichols's era really).It was a still golden age of cartoons.

    It sometimes reran in 1975 but otherwise 1969 was really the last for it.As HannaBarberaFan says, http://www.toontracker.com. and also "Mark Evanier's POVOnline.com" site has some and an entire 7 minute short Rememebr the Birds is there.

    Some interesting points:
    Rory the Raccoon=a takeoff on actor Rory Calhoun (who guested on another show that debtued Septemebr 26th, 1964, "Gilligan"--btw later Sherwood Schwartz-fest "The Brady Bunch' debuted on the exact SAM E date,only in 1969)

    Format Films did part of the animation.

    Ending was changed with the move to a different network in 1966.

    Jean Schinto, the daughter of Gene, the cocreator of the show,with proucer-director Ed Graham (Jr.), told Steve Worth on his defunct Spumco site's guestbook how Ed Graham and Gene Scinto wanted to do voices but were largely forbidden, likewise Jonathan Witners due to network conflicts!

    And of coruse Tony the Tiger is heard in the open despite the cereal sponsor conflcit.:-)

    Show debuted 9/26/64,ended 8/31/39.

    Also, I just noted on YouTube where the credits are, "Bashful Bigshots" under Stiller & Meara (famous Ben Stiller comedic parents-I rememebr a 1970s ad they did on radio for Blue Nun wine) of voices and the info ID'd Johnathan Winters.This one was an iodd nonscrolling credit..the credits usually scrolle.d Hoyt Curtin's name is gone from the credits..quite a lot of animation names,incloduing many famous ones. Johnny Mann is credited with special vocal arrangements, and he longtime had Thurl Ravenscroft which HBFan mentions above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Carras View Post
    Show debuted 9/26/64,ended 8/31/39.
    Assume you mean "8/31/*69*"? Considering TV barely debuted in the US in 1939 (pre-World War II freeze on TV sales/broadcasting)... ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brainatra View Post
    Assume you mean "8/31/*69*"?
    LOL! Didn't even see my own typo till now! Thanks lots, Brainatra, yeah, 1969, after 5 years. Linus ended,ironically, the FCC's rule did not stop "Hot WHeels" from former Jay Ward-like "Ken Snyder/Pantomime Pictures" (along with "Skyhawks", a non-toy program) ("Roger Ramjet" in 1965-1966) from airing..guess what that was based on, and it didn't even have any characters who orignated in the ads, either. Or who WERE the toys themselves (Transofrmers,My Little Pony, and other forgettables later would be the toys themsevles jumpin g to TV in the 80s-early 90s.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Carras View Post
    LOL! Didn't even see my own typo till now! Thanks lots, Brainatra, yeah, 1969, after 5 years. Linus ended,ironically, the FCC's rule did not stop "Hot WHeels" from former Jay Ward-like "Ken Snyder/Pantomime Pictures" (along with "Skyhawks", a non-toy program) ("Roger Ramjet" in 1965-1966) from airing..guess what that was based on, and it didn't even have any characters who orignated in the ads, either. Or who WERE the toys themselves (Transofrmers,My Little Pony, and other forgettables later would be the toys themsevles jumpin g to TV in the 80s-early 90s.)

    It *did* stop such ad-based shows.... until the early 80's, when the deregulation-happy Reagan administration undid the rule, allowing Transformers, My Little Pony, etc. to come along. (That and the use of syndication to get around rules that applied to network ad regulation, IIRC...).

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    Even following the cancellation of the Linus the Lionhearted cartoon series there was still a Linus the Lionhearted balloon in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade in the 1970's and early 1980's. The last appearance for the Linus balloon in the parade was in 1991.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HannaBarberaFan View Post
    A brilliantly hilarious & well written animated series of the early 1960's , made by the ED GRAHAM STUDIOS(Whatever happened to THEM? ), and starring the voices of SHELDON LEONARD (In the Eponymous Lead Role), CARL REINER, & STERLING HOLLOWAY (The former two never before & never again to perform in animation; LEONARD, by the way, was a B-movie gangster..and later was famous for creating/producing/financing classic series like "I SPY", "The ANDY GRIFFITH Show", et. al. ; REINER is STILL a name of much renown having worked extensivley with SID CEASAR & IMOGENE COCA in early TV)

    The series was sponsored by POST CEREALS..indeed the characters featured in the series were also "mascots" for the various POST brands out at that time..which ultimately was the "kiss of death" for the series..when the FCC decreed that it was "nothing more than a 30-minute long commercial advertisement" (When you think about contemporary shows such as "SONIC The HEDGEHOG", "TRANSFORMERS", etc.---all you can say is "HOW MUCH HAS CHANGED!" )

    The series has NEVER, EVER seen ANY type of rebroadcast (Due to the fact that the ads & programme proper were so VERY closely intertwined, & therefore, pretty much unable to have the ad parts edited out) anywhere in the States....I DO pose the query: Has this show been exhibited at any animation conventions anywhere in the USA or abroad?

    It would indeed be a GAS to take a little nostalgic trip back and enjoy this programme in SOME form or other once again..
    I'd seen it in reruns in 1975..and Leonard WAS a numebr of Warners voices, inclduign Dodsworth the cat (Robert McKimson).Also in this 1970s show ccalled "No Soap, Radio", as some cartoon hippo.

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    I remember watching this how and thoroughly enjoying it, but I don't remember anything about it. I was six years old at the time.

    I use to have a Linus the Lionhearted hand puppet that had a voicebox. You could pull the string and he would say all kinds of things.

    I stopped eating Crispy Critters cereal after the show went off the air.

    I would love to see it again.

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    Re: WHO remembers LINUS THE LIONHEARTED?

    I do remember watching the show, but I don't remember the show itself. About the only vague memory I have is of the show opening, in which Linus would roar and then get flattened by something, and then they would start singing the opening theme, "Roar, roar, roar, roar....Linus the LION-HEARTED!"

    I do remember the character somewhat better, from the commercials. They basically went like this, Linus the Lionhearted would say "Post Krispie Kritters", and no matter how steathily he would whisper, or what sort of shelter he fortified himself him, the unfortunate mascot would get leveled by a stampede of....well, Krispie Kritters.

    The original "Sugar Bear" I remember very well from his commercials. Occasionally, Post will go back to that unflappable cool beatnik character, personally I think they were insane for ever changing the character in the first place with unfortunate mutations like "Super Bear". The Sugar Bear that matched wits with Granny and the Blob is simply a classic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary L Thompson View Post
    I do remember watching the show, but I don't remember the show itself. About the only vague memory I have is of the show opening, in which Linus would roar and then get flattened by something, and then they would start singing the opening theme, "Roar, roar, roar, roar....Linus the LION-HEARTED!"
    The "something" (Or rather "somethings") that flattened poor LINUS were, in fact, his "loyal subjects", The Animals Of The Jungle....who did it TWO TIMES in the Title Sequence.

    Ow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary L Thompson
    I do remember the character somewhat better, from the commercials. They basically went like this, Linus the Lionhearted would say "Post Krispie Kritters", and no matter how steathily he would whisper, or what sort of shelter he fortified himself him, the unfortunate mascot would get leveled by a stampede of....well, Krispie Kritters.
    Yes, the commercials are remembered FAR MORE than the telly programme they spawned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary L Thompson
    The original "Sugar Bear" I remember very well from his commercials. Occasionally, Post will go back to that unflappable cool beatnik character, personally I think they were insane for ever changing the character in the first place with unfortunate mutations like "Super Bear". The Sugar Bear that matched wits with Granny and the Blob is simply a classic!
    The "Super Bear" re-naming gig? Well, GENERAL FOODS couldn't help it..

    When U.S. parents went into an uproar about "sugar laden snacks that rot our kids's teeth" and all that, POST decided to re-name "SUPER SUGAR CRISP" as...."SUPER GOLDEN CRISP"..and, obviously, SUGAR BEAR's moniker HAD to follow suit..
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