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    I got to see it this morning and I thought it was great!!!

    In Republic City, Korra was great taking care of those thugs, regardless that she got arrested for it.

    I also felt it was great that she was able to help that team advance to the championship, even if it took her a while to get the hang of Air bending.

    This was a great way to start off this new Avatar series! I can't wait for more!
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    So it's good to be back. Talking about the world of the Avatar on Toonzone! This brings me back. It is good to be here again.



    So the good.


    +I was a little bit skeptical of a more modern setting for the new series but I think it works. It still feels like the same world but it has changed.


    +I find that I really like Korra she is headstrong, and tough. Truth be told while I never disliked Aang I was never a huge fan of his. Infact at some points in the first series I was more interested in Zuko's storyline then Aang's. Korra however, is definately a very diffrent Avatar and I think I'm going to enjoy her personality.


    +The artwork for the last Airbender was always top notch and heads above most of the other shows (I bought the crap out of that art of book) but they've gone a step beyond that even in this new show. I mean how cool were the shots of the rebuilt Southern Tribe?


    +Steve Blum is playing the main villan. Makoto Shishio is trying to end firebending! Nah, kidding aside I have a feeling that he's going to be an awesome villan. I'm kind of interested in his backstory and why he hates bending.


    +Aang and Katara named one of their kids Bumi. That's sweet.


    -I would have really liked to have seen more reflection on Katara's feelings regarding training/being around the reincarnation of the man she loved for most of her life. I know that Korra and Aang are two diffrent people but it just struck me as kind of strange that this was never talked about.



    *It will be interesting to see who from the old series has made it into the current one. I'm personally hoping that we'll see an Old Toph. She was a cranky old woman when she was a twelve year old...I can only imagine what she'd be like in her late 80's.


    * I kind of have to wonder about airbending in the pro bending tournaments. From the looks of things their airbender numbers are still low but we've also seen that there were a number of students at the airtemple island. Do the airbenders just stay out of these contests? Does their philosophy keep them from participating? What's going on here?



    *I have a pet theory that with Amon they might be doing the same thing that they did with Ozai. Keeping his face hidden until well into the series when they'll just spring it on us. It's easy to forget sometimes that we didn't actually see Ozai's face until the first episode of the third season. I'm wondering if I'm heading into fanfiction territory but what if Amon lost his face during an encounter with Koh? I guess he still has his eyes...but that would be an awesome twist if he was somehow connected to Koh. Oh well, maybe he's just the son of the cabbage guy and he wants vengence!



    *So are Tenzin's siblings still around? That would be an interesting thing to see...Aang and Katara's other kids.


    *I'm really interested in seeing how the post war Fire nation culture developed? I mean are they going to do the whole "white wash the atrocities thing" that has happened in say some of the more conservative parts of post WW2 Japan? Or has Zuko's influence encouraged them to try to make penance for their sins? That was one thing about the end of Avatar:TLA that bothered me. The Firelords could not have maintained a century of war without domestic suppourt and Ozai could not have maintained his conspiracy (to rob Iroh of his birthright) without people in the goverment backing him up. Are those same hardline elements still lurking in the Fire Nation?

    *It looks like they might be setting up a love triangle with Bolin,Mako, and Korra. I always felt that the triangle between Zuko, Aang, and Katara was more in the imagination of the fans then anything but they might be setting this up intentionally.

    Overall I give these two episodes a solid A- each. A solid start to what I can tell will be an amazing series. Can't wait to see how this unfolds!
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    I caught the premiere this morning. A very solid, enjoyable start. I have to say, I originally wasn't excited about this show. I didn't think new characters and the steampunk urban setting would be able to keep that old-school Avatar feel, but I'm very glad to have been proven wrong. This may be a fresh new take on the franchise, but it definitely feels like the same world.

    I'm not going to bother with my usual pros/cons style reviews yet; I'll wait and see what the show's like as it progresses before I start judging.

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    I got to catch the first two episodes and I liked what I saw. The animation really impressed me and the story is definitely going somewhere enjoyable.

    As for Aang dying at 66, I'm getting the vibe that was because of a after effect of sealing himself inside ice for so many years before the series starts. It kind of makes sense considering that can't really be healthy for his body at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I.R Joey View Post
    -I would have really liked to have seen more reflection on Katara's feelings regarding training/being around the reincarnation of the man she loved for most of her life. I know that Korra and Aang are two diffrent people but it just struck me as kind of strange that this was never talked about.
    I would have liked to see that too. That was probably more visible when Katara first met Korra. By the time Korra was taking her Firebending test, they had probably known each other for years and Katara had been able to deal with the pain of seeing Aang in his reincarnated form. I wouldn't be surprised if Katara was Korra's Waterbending teacher. Even though it would be painful for her, it would have also given her some comfort knowing that she's helping the new Avatar.

    Quote Originally Posted by I.R Joey
    *It will be interesting to see who from the old series has made it into the current one. I'm personally hoping that we'll see an Old Toph. She was a cranky old woman when she was a twelve year old...I can only imagine what she'd be like in her late 80's.
    I'd like to see an older Toph too. She was my second favorite character and so much fun, so I'd be interested in seeing how she has changed after having a kid.

    Quote Originally Posted by I.R Joey
    * I kind of have to wonder about airbending in the pro bending tournaments. From the looks of things their airbender numbers are still low but we've also seen that there were a number of students at the airtemple island. Do the airbenders just stay out of these contests? Does their philosophy keep them from participating? What's going on here?
    I think it's more likely that the number of Airbenders are still far too low to be included in probending. Aside from Tenzin and his children, I don't think that there are any other Airbenders. I don't know if the other people at Air Temple Island are just studying the philosophy of Airbending rather than practicing it. They would have to rework how the game works a bit before allowing Airbenders into the games.

    Quote Originally Posted by I.R Joey
    *So are Tenzin's siblings still around? That would be an interesting thing to see...Aang and Katara's other kids.
    I'm pretty sure that they are. It would be nice to see them appear at some point.

    Quote Originally Posted by I.R Joey
    *I'm really interested in seeing how the post war Fire nation culture developed? I mean are they going to do the whole "white wash the atrocities thing" that has happened in say some of the more conservative parts of post WW2 Japan? Or has Zuko's influence encouraged them to try to make penance for their sins? That was one thing about the end of Avatar:TLA that bothered me. The Firelords could not have maintained a century of war without domestic suppourt and Ozai could not have maintained his conspiracy (to rob Iroh of his birthright) without people in the goverment backing him up. Are those same hardline elements still lurking in the Fire Nation?
    While I think that we'll focus on Republic City for the bulk of the series, or at least the first book, I hope that we'll get to see how the post-war Fire Nation has turned out. It would be definitely interesting to see how much that area has changed.

    Quote Originally Posted by RockmanDash
    As for Aang dying at 66, I'm getting the vibe that was because of a after effect of sealing himself inside ice for so many years before the series starts. It kind of makes sense considering that can't really be healthy for his body at all.
    I believe that was confirmed by the creators awhile ago. It does make sense given he went into the Avatar state to seal himself in ice for a hundred years.

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    I really loved this. Korra is a great character so far. She's tough, and hot headed, but likeable. She's realistic for someone of her age and in her position. I really enjoy the fact that she's older than the main characters of TLA were. It bothered me that they had them going through all these conflicts, and experiencing all these emotions, and their ages never played into it. If they were going to handle everything like young adults, why make them 12 in the first place?

    I have a feeling that if Zuko is alive, he's the one who taught Korra firebending. Pro-bending is incredibly cool, and I can tell Mako is going to be a favorite of mine as he starts to warm up to Korra (much like Zuko was when he began opening up to the team)

    One thing I did think of though, what if the anti benders are actually being oppressed in some way, and Korra doesn't know it yet? It would make for good internal conflict, and the way the scene with her confronting the protesters was set up was just screaming "You don't know as much as you think you do, young lady."

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    Anyone know how the ratings were for these two episodes?
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    "Mock-oh"? I thought it would be pronounced "May-ko" like the shark...

    Not crazy about pro-bending. I really hoped this series would be less about bending and magic powers, and more about real martial arts. The brothers seem kind of... boring? Kudos for having Korra mess up like the rookie she is in the match though. She was too much of a brat at airbending training considering all she did to come to the city and learn it. And the "faraway thinking about you" end shot didn't have me looking forward to any romance thing going on either. Too early.

    But it's only the first two episodes, so I can definitely give the show more time. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just off to a slow start. I'm looking forward to the villain getting more involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tealeaf View Post
    "Mock-oh"? I thought it would be pronounced "May-ko" like the shark...
    Nope. To get a 'may' sound his name (in katakana) would have been メーコ/meeko rather than マコ/mako. マ/ma is pronounced like...well, 'ma' from 'mama', with a tall 'a(h)' sound. The 4Kids dub of the Yu-Gi-Oh! cartoon completely mangles the pronunciation of the name...not to mention that the character's actual name is Kajiki Ryouta. Not sure why they traded one Japanese name for another (well, other than to appeal to the lowest common denominator).

    *Surprisingly enough, the Japanese spelling of 岩松 マコ/Iwamatsu Mako's given name is written in katakana. I hadn't known that!
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    I'd prefer May-koh over Mock-oh. But since it's a tribute to the actor, it would probably be kind of a mockery (no pun intended) to pronounce it differently. Though Avatar doesn't seem too strict about pronounciations... wasn't "Aang" properly suppose to be pronounced "Ong" like the film?

    Speaking of which, there's something I've wondered: Why is Tenzin so white? Wouldn't he be a little more tan since he's Katara's son?

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    The daughter who's a waterbender looks like Katara, so it makes sense that Tenzin looks like Aang, as the only airbender, I suppose

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    Quote Originally Posted by tealeaf View Post
    Though Avatar doesn't seem too strict about pronounciations... wasn't "Aang" properly suppose to be pronounced "Ong" like the film?
    Nope seeing as I don`t think there is a proper way to say Aang. Someone else explained it better than I can( I think it was Ed Liu ) but I think the long and short was there is no Aang in chinese so him being pronounced Oong in the awful movie was wrong for mispronouncing a name for no reason.

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    I thought Aang was an Asian name or something...
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuromi_Star View Post
    The daughter who's a waterbender looks like Katara, so it makes sense that Tenzin looks like Aang, as the only airbender, I suppose
    Huht? We haven't seen the rest of Aang and Katara's kids. And all of Tenzin's kids are airbenders...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tealeaf View Post
    I thought Aang was an Asian name or something...
    It sounds like it but I guess it isn't. From my personal experience I've lived in a city that is predominantly Asian( Chinese mostly ) and I have never met, seen, or heard of an Aang in real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper View Post
    I got to see it this morning and I thought it was great!!!

    In Republic City, Korra was great taking care of those thugs, regardless that she got arrested for it.

    I also felt it was great that she was able to help that team advance to the championship, even if it took her a while to get the hang of Air bending.

    This was a great way to start off this new Avatar series! I can't wait for more!
    Technically she didn't, since she didn't actually airbend. She did get the hang of one of the techniques though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuromi_Star View Post
    I have a feeling that if Zuko is alive, he's the one who taught Korra firebending. Pro-bending is incredibly cool, and I can tell Mako is going to be a favorite of mine as he starts to warm up to Korra (much like Zuko was when he began opening up to the team)
    I'm pretty sure that old guy in Fire Nation clothes watching Korra spar against the firebenders was her firebending teacher. And if Zuko was alive, and it wasn't that old guy it still wouldn't have been Zuko, since it's clear that the masters come to Korra's village to live while they teach her. Something I doubt he'd have time to do.


    Quote Originally Posted by tealeaf View Post
    I thought Aang was an Asian name or something...
    Huht? We haven't seen the rest of Aang and Katara's kids. And all of Tenzin's kids are airbenders...
    Actually there's a family tree picture that's been released that show what Aang and Katara's kids look like.

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    ^That's... kind of weird. I guess it's not impossible, and it's not a big deal or anything, but it seems unlikely that ALL their children would be
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    Spoiler just to be safe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderwall View Post
    Nope seeing as I don`t think there is a proper way to say Aang. Someone else explained it better than I can( I think it was Ed Liu ) but I think the long and short was there is no Aang in chinese so him being pronounced Oong in the awful movie was wrong for mispronouncing a name for no reason.
    It's kind of complicated.... Feel free to skip down if you don't feel like reading a lot of linguistic babble, and if you see unprintable characters below, then you'll need to install a Chinese font to see the characters.

    The Airbenders are clearly inspired by Chinese and Tibetan Buddhist culture. Monk Gyatso is named after Tenzin Gyatso, the current Dalai Lama, but the previous Airbender Avatar was Avatar Yangchen, which is a Chinese name. "Aang" is not a Chinese name, but it doesn't really sound Tibetan to my ear, either. If it's made up (and I've never seen anybody cite a real-world example to say it isn't), then there is no "right" way to pronounce that name, and the rationale that M. Night Shyamalan gave to pronounce it the way he did is as arbitrary as Mike and Bryan's rationale for pronouncing it the way it was done in the series. Mike and Bryan did get there first, though, so I say their pronunciation is more "correct" just because they made it all up in the first place.

    The only other justification for one over the other comes from the times where Aang's name is written out in Chinese characters as a transliteration (using Chinese characters to phonetically sound out a foreign word). From that screenshot, Aang's name is the first two characters from the top-down (安昂) and is pronounced "An-Ang" (from what little Chinese language skill I have, I think that means "Aspiring to Peace" or something like that). However, I'd probably say that the second character of Aang's name in Chinese characters (昂, "Ang") sounds closer to the live-action movie pronunciation than the TV show. However, using this as a rationale for the movie pronunciation is shaky at best -- you'd be basing it on the transliterated pronunciation of a made-up word, which doesn't make a lot of sense. It'd be like insisting that the proper pronunciation of the word "ring" is "ringu" because that's the way the Japanese transliterated the word in the title of the movie. That justification also requires you to throw away the first character of the name for no reason (most Chinese given names are two characters; one-character names exist, but they are very much the exception and not the rule).

    Either way, "Aang" is a made-up pseudo-Asian name, as are many of the names in Avatar (and now Korra). If they happen to map cleanly to a real Asian language, that's great, but also entirely coincidental. As another example, Toph's full name is "Toph Beifong," and the characters for her family name (北方) are really pronounced as "Beifong," but "Beifong" is not a proper Chinese family name (they're almost always one character, not two), "Toph" is unpronounceable in Mandarin Chinese as a one-syllable word (if I remember right, even her transliterated name is pronounced "tuo-fu," which is as close as you can get), and the name is backwards (Chinese names put family name first and given name afterwards -- they actually did get this right when she flashes her passport at the head of the Serpent's Pass). But it's all made up, so if they want to say that's her name and that's how it's pronounced, then that's her name and that's how it's pronounced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo Yi View Post
    I'll have a more in depth review when I'm not dead tired, but so far, so good.
    Pfft, dead tired indeed and might as well lazy to that list, too.

    Rewatched the episodes and they are still exceptional. Korra herself is an incredibly fleshed out character and someone I immediately catered to. Forceful, confident, and ready to take on anything, she could have fallen into the traps of being a tough, strong woman who uses her strength to overcompensate and follow the terrible tread of "being as good/or better than the boys" in a misguided attempt at positive discrimination. Along with her rather aggressive personality, she could have been an unlikable jerk as well, but ooh, those crafty writers know better than that. She fits neither. Korra is talented, but has her limitations. Her impatience makes Airbending the perfect foil to her growing arc. She may be ready to take on the world, but she's well meaning. She's not rude or insulting; she's quick to solve problems she sees - even if it's through her fists - and eager to express her gratitude when the situation calls for it. She's compassionate, overeager, and though she may not fully understand just what her role as a guider of peace is, she's willing to take on its responsibilities. Everything about her is gold.

    Both episodes are amazing. I was iffy on "Welcome to Republic City's" pacing at first, but overtime it grew on me and I think it works fine now. "Leaf in The Wind" is especially good at fixing differing matters from both ends. I'm really irked whenever someone makes a good point only to be dismissed because the hero's way is better for some reason, especially if the hero's solution is often pigheaded and idiotic. There's compromise here; Tenzin realizes Pro-Bending improves Korra's technique and she in turn only lasted the game because of his teachings. Neither side is specifically wrong, but both need to improvise and I like that they pull that here instead of cheaply assuming the hero's methods is always right.

    Tenzin is amusing; a man who uploads Airbending philosophy, but possess an uptight personality. His kids are adorable little ragamuffins and I love their behavior. My personal favorite scene is the youngest calling his father a terrible teacher innocently, then thrashing the obstacle course without a care. It's so like a toddler to behave this way and it's believable. It remains me greatly of Mei and Satsuki in My Neighbor Totoro when they ran and opened and explored every aspect of their new home in sheer awe and exuberance. I don't have much to say on Bolin (except he and Korra exchange witty dialogues very well with one another. Also I bet he'll get all the good lines) and Mako (other than I suspect he'll be Korra's prime love interest) though. Lin Bei Fong is awesome (she is Toph's daughter) and I desperately want a Barbara Gordon/Terry McGinnis kind of relationship where the cop knows the heroine is trying to do good, but their interaction is vitriolic at best. I find Amon's mask to be interesting because he's essentially "faceless", much like how Ozai was. In the latter's case, it emphasized his looming presence and his representation of the Fire Nation. What is Amon's reason for masking himself? Knowing the creators, I wouldn't be surprised if the reveal is both straightforward and symbolic. Also, maybe I'm overthinking this, but did anyone get anxious when Katara said her good-byes to Korra? What if this will be the last time they ever see each other?

    Animation is gorgeous. They must have spent quite the moolah on this; everything is amazing. The backgrounds especially breathes life and I can already see the culture behind it as well as the major changes seventy years has befallen since the original series. I love that the series makes time to pan out and really show off the land (anyone notice the trees indicate that it may be Autumn? I wonder if this show will pass time like the original did?) It's weird to see cars, electronic cords, and radios in the Avatarverse, but it emphasizes the huge generation leap and creates a new world and culture for Mike and Bryan to tinker with. Most importantly, I am super keen that it's heavily inspired by the 1920s; that's only like my favorite decade ever.

    I don't normally pay attention to the background music. Not unless it's good and it is good. The earworm jazzy scores, the mystical Asian themes, and the haunting credit scores, it's a treat to listen to.

    Avatar: The Last Airbender already hit every note right. Legend of Korra set that bar even higher. I look forward to more.
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    Another thing I wondered: how is there another sky bison? I thought Appa was the last one.

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