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    It's animated in Japan (or at least brought to Japan first and then pieces of it are outsourced to Korea ). So by the definition of "anything animated in Japan is anime" it IS anime.

    But I didn't want to start off the anime/cartoon debate again because it's pointless and stupid. Everyone has their own ideas of what that means. I consider Monsuno anime while others don't. That's all right, I'm not going to dissuade you if you don't consider Monsuno anime. It's just what I think it is.

    I just wish there was more originality to it but maybe the execution will hold up. I am NOT liking Kirk Thornton's voice in this though, it doesn't suit a teenager at all.
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    I believe there is a stigmatism towards cartoons in america.

    Cartoons= kids stuff

    Obviously j-animation is broader in terms of demographical genres, but it'll be given the same flack as Region1(USA/Canada)-animation. Of course ignorance plays a big part as well.

    Therefore j-animation fans(myself included) try to separate the two with those terms. That's all it really boils down to.
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    "J-Animation" are for kids as much as western animation .

    Yes, they can be for adults. But so can western animation. My point is: Dont use the "Anime is more mature" line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aegisrawks View Post
    "J-Animation" are for kids as much as western animation .

    Yes, they can be for adults. But so can western animation. My point is: Dont use the "Anime is more mature" line.

    If Monsuno can actually draw me into their world deeper than the combined efforts of Bakugan/Chaotic, i'll be totally floored...mhmm.


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    Exactly. You hit the nail right on the head. Which is why I coined the term "demo genres". Its not so much an opinion of maturity; its more about the ignorant western view of animation. That ignorance leads to stigmatism, and here we are.

    The american view of an adult cartoon leans to series like FamGuy or Drawn Together. Something that basically emulates their adult lives. Raunchy stuff appearantly.
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    It's now set to air February 23 according to the show's page at Nicktoons.

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    Well I guess we'll soon find out if there's anything good about this toon or not. It has some potential I guess.
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    Looks like it gets a one hour premiere and airs Thursdays at 8pm.

    I'm disappointed about this date change, because now it conflicts 30 Rock which we just caught up on. Oh well, I'm sure Nicktoons will air encores of Monsuno to death.

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    Did a little snooping around, and apparently the Japanese broadcaster and co-producer for the series is TV Tokyo. Provided, this information on this website is correct. This also answer a question or two that got brought up in the thread, regarding it's status of being Japanese or not.

    EDIT: On another note, because I just realized now, do we even have a talkback picture for Monsuno? If not, I could make one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
    I wonder if people might be getting too hung up over terms like "anime" and "cartoon" again. Would you say there's some big dividing factor between "anime" and other cartoons? Is it where it's animated? Because that would make plenty of "American" cartoons like Avatar, Animaniacs and Robot Monkey Team "anime" as well. Does it depend on who creates or produces the story? IGPX was an American/Japan co-production, Oban Star-Racers was Japan/France, and Heroman has Stan Lee on board. Is it the storytelling style? The animation style? The maturity level? The immaturity?

    The fact is, trying to pinhole this show into being "anime" or not is kinda pointless since, when we get down to it, anime literally means "cartoon" and can be used, and is used, for anything animated. There are differences in style, sure, but not just between Americans and Japanese, but between different companies and creators as well. No one would confuse Osamu Tezuka's work with Hayao Miyazaki's, or Cowboy Bebop with Doraemon. So I for one will judge the show on it's own merits and not just on who created it or what animation studio is working on it.
    Anime as defined by anime fans is:

    - Original concept must be made by a Japanese person in Japan
    - Must be animated in Japan
    - Must be voiced by Japanese voice actors before American voice actors

    If just one of those things is missing it will not be considered anime by anime fans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Toon

    Anime as defined by anime fans is:

    - Original concept must be made by a Japanese person in Japan
    Well what about Witchblade, Ultraviolet and the Marvel series produced for Japan?

    This is why a term referring to Japanese animation seems downright irrelevant these days.

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    Monsuno kind of came out of nowhere for me. So is it any good? I caught the end of an episode today. Some of the voices were very obnoxious, but others were decent. The humor was kind of up my alley, the action wasn't bad, and I thought the animation was great for a 'mon show. Also something about a giant ice-polar bear jives with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King9 View Post
    Monsuno kind of came out of nowhere for me. So is it any good? I caught the end of an episode today. Some of the voices were very obnoxious, but others were decent. The humor was kind of up my alley, the action wasn't bad, and I thought the animation was great for a 'mon show. Also something about a giant ice-polar bear jives with me.
    I don't think the voices are that bad, plus it has some the best action in a monster show I have ever seen. I think it's pretty good and a main character having a giant badass polar bear is always a plus in my book.
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    I'm intrigued by the quality animation and monster designs. I just realized i don't have Nicktoons at school, but next time I'm home I'll check it out for sure.
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    So the opening theme is performed by Far East Movement, the group who turned (content warning for the younger folk here, viewer discretion for language and all that jazz) Dev's mediocre song into a club smash in the summer of 2010 made this...



    I'm ... uh ... wut

    Far East Movement on the collaboration:

    "We had a great time creating the unique theme song for Monsuno and we think kids are going to love it! We love what we have seen of the animated show and can't wait to get our hands on the toys."
    This is kind of a bizarre mix here. Far East Movement's fans may be a bit too old to be interested in Monsuno, and the song itself isn't very good so the stunt performance is odd to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takao View Post
    So the opening theme is performed by Far East Movement, the group who turned (content warning for the younger folk here, viewer discretion for language and all that jazz) Dev's mediocre song into a club smash in the summer of 2010 made this...



    I'm ... uh ... wut

    Far East Movement on the collaboration:



    This is kind of a bizarre mix here. Far East Movement's fans may be a bit too old to be interested in Monsuno, and the song itself isn't very good so the stunt performance is odd to say the least.
    I knew about since I saw episode 2 on Nicktoon's website. I was just as surprised as you.
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    Reviving this thread to let everyone know that after after showing all of the previous episodes (so far) today, Monsuno officially returns tomorrow on Nicktoons. They're going to be premiering three new episodes straight this week on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, all at 8:30 PM EDT. I just thought you should know.
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    So no episode talkback threads to this week's episodes. I think tonights episodes what happened in the beginning was a dead give away about the twist. I am not going into details in order not to spoil things.

    Funny that did what they did in tonight's episodes, this is something they could have done with Asami Sato in Legend Of Korra.

    What animes does Monsuno remind you of. Obviously Pokemon and Digimon come to mind. Though unlike Pokemon it has story, and unlike Digimon, Monsuno is an everyday things in this universe. It kind of reminds me of Blue Dragon. Like like how the excist Monsuno is not a big deal, just like shadow whelders aren't a big deal in the Blue Dragon world, and the destined five are like the 7 desdents of light, and Storm is a destraction from the real big threat just Grand Kingdom was a destiction from the true threat in Blue Dragon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoombie View Post
    What animes does Monsuno remind you of. Obviously Pokemon and Digimon come to mind. Though unlike Pokemon it has story, and unlike Digimon, Monsuno is an everyday things in this universe. It kind of reminds me of Blue Dragon. Like like how the excist Monsuno is not a big deal, just like shadow whelders aren't a big deal in the Blue Dragon world, and the destined five are like the 7 desdents of light, and Storm is a destraction from the real big threat just Grand Kingdom was a destiction from the true threat.
    That sounds about right. I would be kinda interested to see more of how the normal, everyday folks think about Monsuno's and STORM.

    Anyways, I was unaware the show was on all week, as I only watch the one last night. It's still a nice/okay show to watch. It could benefit from a stronger script, but I think the show is far from terrible. If there's one thing that amuses me about the show, is how Karen Strassman seems to play every female on this show. Reminds me of Charlie Adler in Cow & Chicken & Jim Cummings back in the Disney Afternoon days.
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    Thankfully I managed to record all the episode premieres on my DVR so I'll comment on them later when I get a chance to watch them.
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    Despite being another Pokemon-ish show. It would be more bearable if the character's voices weren't so unbearably grating.


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