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    Ouch for Power Rangers. I shot a tweet over at SonoftheBronx on how Dino Thunder and Jungle Fury are doing on Nicktoons, I hope I get good news.

    Oh, Avatar has been killing it on Nicktoons. It's time to put it back on the main channel.
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    500,000 & 600,000 viewers for Nicktoons is pretty big, especially knowing that new episodes of Mr. Young and Pair of Kings score around 800,000 viewers on DXD.

    http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...2-2012/130486/

    The past Korra episode scored 3.5 million viewers, It could be the most watched show on Nick last week if it wasn't beacuase a SpongeBob rerun. And it seems that iCarly got a new series low. The recent iCarly & VICTORiOUS ratings are just sad.



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    Here are some of Nick's ratings from last week, April 16-22 (mainly via TVbytheNumbers.com):

    Day -- Time -- Total Viewers (P2+, in millions) -- Program

    SUN -- 10:30AM -- 3.616 -- SpongeBob SquarePants
    SAT -- 11:00AM -- 3.546 -- The Legend of Korra (NEW)
    SUN -- 10:00AM -- 3.362 -- SpongeBob SquarePants
    SUN -- 11:00AM -- 3.255 -- The Penguins of Madagascar (NEW)
    SAT -- 10:30AM -- 3.135 -- SpongeBob SquarePants
    SUN -- 9:30AM -- 3.027 -- SpongeBob SquarePants
    SUN -- 11:30AM -- 2.970 -- SpongeBob SquarePants
    SAT -- 8:00PM -- 2.828 -- iCarly (NEW)
    SUN -- 6:30PM -- 2.633 -- SpongeBob SquarePants
    SUN -- 5:30PM -- 2.273 -- SpongeBob SquarePants
    SAT -- 8:30PM -- 2.097 -- How to Rock (NEW)
    THU -- 5:00PM -- 1.935 -- SpongeBob SquarePants
    FRI -- 8:00AM -- 1.847 -- SpongeBob SquarePants
    FRI -- 7:30AM -- 1.434 -- SpongeBob SquarePants
    SAT -- 9:00PM -- 1.402 -- BTR: Big Time Tour (NEW)

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    Wow, iCarly, How to Rock, and Big Time Rush all hit drastic lows. How to Rock and Big Time Rush performed worse that Cartoon Network's comedies and NinjaGo.

    Thursday, April 21, 2011 to Thursday, April 19, 2012 Comparison:

    KIDS 2-11

    Cartoon Network - 527,000 to 467,000 -11%
    Disney Channel - 1,049,000 to 796,000 -24%
    Nickelodeon - 1,179,000 to 635,000 -47%

    KIDS 6-11

    Cartoon Network - 311,000 to 295,000 -5%
    Disney Channel - 611,000 to 432,000 -29%
    Nickelodeon - 589,000 to 255,000 -57%

    TWEENS 9-14

    Cartoon Network - 231,000 to 235,000 +2%
    Disney Channel - 436,000 to 323,000 -26%
    Nickelodeon - 496,000 to 202,000 -59%

    Friday, April 22, 2011 to Friday, April 20, 2012 Comparison:

    KIDS 2-11

    Disney Channel - 1,266,000 to 963,000 -24%
    Cartoon Network - 610,000 to 431,000 -29%
    Nickelodeon - 1,513,000 to 753,000 -50%

    KIDS 6-11

    Cartoon Network - 403,000 to 273,000 -32%
    Disney Channel - 790,000 to 526,000 -33%
    Nickelodeon - 872,000 to 317,000 -64%

    TWEENS 9-14

    Disney Channel - 574,000 to 350,000 -39%
    Cartoon Network - 359,000 to 212,000 -41%
    Nickelodeon - 661,000 to 226,000 -66%

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    Thursday, April 21, 2011 to Thursday, April 19, 2012 Comparison:

    KIDS 2-11

    Disney XD - 222,000 to 182,000 -18%
    Nicktoons - 107,000 to 77,000 -28%

    KIDS 6-11

    Disney XD - 155,000 to 140,000 -10%
    Nicktoons - 67,000 to 55,000 -18%

    TWEENS 9-14

    Nicktoons - 52,000 to 49,000 -6%
    Disney XD - 130,000 to 121,000 -7%

    Friday, April 22, 2011 to Friday, April 20, 2012 Comparison:

    KIDS 2-11

    Nicktoons - 95,000 to 90,000 -5%
    Disney XD - 319,000 to 134,000 -58%

    KIDS 6-11

    Nicktoons - 68,000 to 58,000 -15%
    Disney XD - 247,000 to 99,000 -60%

    TWEENS 9-14

    Nicktoons - 55,000 to 49,000 -11%
    Disney XD - 182,000 to 103,000 -43%
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    A lot of these numbers are coming from a TVbytheNumbers poster called "Nick" in this post about Sunday cable ratings. We will see if the ratings data matches up with SonoftheBronx's ratings data once his regular Saturday ratings are in. Power Rangers Super Samurai at 12:00 pm is also missing from the total viewership count right now, and I would like to see if it had another ratings drop like last week, or if it held on better. If "Nick" has reliable data, then perhaps we can get ratings data for Marvel Universe on Disney XD on Sundays.

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    iCarly/Victorious thing can be solved if they actually had a consistent time for the premieres. Some weeks Victorious airs at 8pm, other weeks it's iCarly. That's kinda haphazard. The only thing that is consistent is HowToRock, which for better or worse, has stayed around the same and proved it can soak up ratings runoff.

    And interesting Nicktoons numbers, especially with the tweens. I didn't expect it to be so high and stay regularly consistent. I think Avatar and Dragon Ball Z contributed to those numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Lawson View Post
    A lot of these numbers are coming from a TVbytheNumbers poster called "Nick" in this post about Sunday cable ratings. We will see if the ratings data matches up with SonoftheBronx's ratings data once his regular Saturday ratings are in. Power Rangers Super Samurai at 12:00 pm is also missing from the total viewership count right now, and I would like to see if it had another ratings drop like last week, or if it held on better. If "Nick" has reliable data, then perhaps we can get ratings data for Marvel Universe on Disney XD on Sundays.
    His numbers can be trusted. He's been posting in TVBTN's comments section for a while now, and his numbers have always matched thosed of SonOfTheBronx and others.

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    Saturday, April 23, 2011 to Saturday, April 21, 2012 Comparison:

    KIDS 2-11

    Disney Channel - 1,077,000 to 1,177,000 +9%
    Cartoon Network - 661,000 to 694,000 +5%
    Nickelodeon - 1,375,000 to 829,000 -40%

    KIDS 6-11

    Cartoon Network - 440,000 to 486,000 +11%
    Disney Channel - 740,000 to 815,000 +10%
    Nickelodeon - 932,000 to 567,000 -39%

    TWEENS 9-14

    Cartoon Network - 357,000 to 370,000 +4%
    Disney Channel - 577,000 to 578,000 FLAT
    Nickelodeon - 751,000 to 482,000 -36%

    Sunday, April 24, 2011 to Sunday, April 22, 2012 Comparison:

    KIDS 2-11

    Cartoon Network - 411,000 to 589,000 +43%
    Nickelodeon - 992,000 to 965,000 -3%
    Disney Channel - 1,165,000 to 1,034,000 -11%

    KIDS 6-11

    Cartoon Network - 274,000 to 411,000 +50%
    Disney Channel - 715,000 to 725,000 +1%
    Nickelodeon - 661,000 to 625,000 -6%

    TWEENS 9-14

    Cartoon Network - 222,000 to 311,000 +40%
    Disney Channel - 525,000 to 580,000 +11%
    Nickelodeon - 523,000 to 513,000 -2%

    Monday, April 25, 2011 to Monday, April 23, 2012 Comparison:

    KIDS 2-11

    Disney Channel - 931,000 to 831,000 -11%
    Cartoon Network - 590,000 to 475,000 -20%
    Nickelodeon - 1,286,000 to 714,000 -45%

    KIDS 6-11

    Disney Channel - 527,000 to 435,000 -18%
    Cartoon Network - 435,000 to 321,000 -26%
    Nickelodeon - 600,000 to 244,000 -59%

    TWEENS 9-14

    Disney Channel - 400,000 to 370,000 -8%
    Cartoon Network - 343,000 to 267,000 -22%
    Nickelodeon - 400,000 to 176,000 -56%

    Tuesday, April 26, 2011 to Tuesday, April 24, 2012 Comparison:

    KIDS 2-11

    Cartoon Network - 456,000 to 446,000 -2%
    Disney Channel - 910,000 to 819,000 -10%
    Nickelodeon - 1,105,000 to 716,000 -35%

    KIDS 6-11

    Cartoon Network - 284,000 to 300,000 +6%
    Disney Channel - 469,000 to 439,000 -6%
    Nickelodeon - 437,000 to 260,000 -41%

    TWEENS 9-14

    Disney Channel - 331,000 to 366,000 +11%
    Cartoon Network - 231,000 to 252,000 +9%
    Nickelodeon - 338,000 to 180,000 -47%

    Cartoon Network got second place over Nickelodeon in kids 6-11 and 9-14 on Monday and Tuesday both.

    Here's the breakdown:

    Monday, April 23rd:

    KIDS 2-11

    Disney Channel - 831,000
    Nickelodeon - 714,000
    Cartoon Network - 475,000

    KIDS 6-11

    Disney Channel - 435,000
    Cartoon Network - 321,000
    Nickelodeon - 244,000

    TWEENS 9-14

    Disney Channel - 370,000
    Cartoon Network - 267,000
    Nickelodeon - 176,000

    Tuesday, April 24th:

    KIDS 2-11

    Disney Channel - 819,000
    Nickelodeon - 716,000
    Cartoon Network - 446,000

    KIDS 6-11

    Disney Channel - 439,000
    Cartoon Network - 300,000
    Nickelodeon - 266,000

    TWEENS 9-14

    Disney Channel - 366,000
    Cartoon Network - 252,000
    Nickelodeon - 180,000
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    The real problem for Nickelodeon in regards to their ratings is their often erratic and redundant scheduling. As well as their recent shows borrowing (instead of being an "alternative") from the wishful-fulfillment /teen celebrity sitcom formula from the Disney Channel.

    Is Netflix to blame for Nickelodeon's ratings decline?


    A study shows that Nick viewing is up in non-Netflix homes, while down in homes with the Netflix streaming service.

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    DISNEY CHANNEL 3.7/19 Avg. (7a-1p)
    Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 2.3/23; Doc McStuffins 3.0/22; Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 2.9/17; Jake and the Never Land Pirates 2.6/13; Monsters, Inc. (1x100) 5.0/21; Phineas and Ferb 3.7/16; Jessie 3.6/17; A.N.T. Farm 3.5/18; Wizards of Waverly Place 3.3/18; Wizards of Waverly Place 3.0/16
    NICKELODEON
    2.8/14 Avg. (7a-1p)
    T.U.F.F. Puppy 1.0/10; T.U.F.F. Puppy 2.1/15; Legend of Korra (1x60) 2.0/10; SpongeBob SquarePants 2.8/12; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.2/17; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.2/17; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.3/19; Legend of Korra 3.9/19; Fred: The Show 2.8/14; Power Rangers Samurai 2.4/13; T.U.F.F. Puppy 1.9/11
    CARTOON NETWORK
    1.8/9 Avg. (7a-1p)
    Johnny Test 1.6/16; Redakai: Conquer the Kairu 1.3/9; Beyblade: Metal Masters 1.5/9; Pokemon B&W: Rival Destinies 1.7/8; Ben 10: Ultimate Alien 1.8/8; Thundercats 2.0/8; The Green Lantern 2.1/9; Young Justice 2.0/9; Mad 2.3/11; Level Up 1.7/8; The Looney Tunes Show 2.1/11; The Looney Tunes Show 2.0/11
    DISNEY XD
    1.2/6 Avg. (7a-1p)
    Kick Buttowski 0.5/5; Phineas and Ferb 0.7/5; Phineas and Ferb 1.0/6; Lab Rats 1.5/7; Pair of Kings (1x60) 2.3/10; So Random 1.5/6; Kickin It 1.4/6; Kick Buttowski (1x15) 1.5/7; Fish Hooks (1x15) 1.1/5; Phineas and Ferb 1.0/5; Pair of Kings 0.8/4; Pair of Kings 0.7/4

    Dude, this is sad for Korra. It won it's timeslot but it could do way better, and it didn't make any top chart this week either (only #1 for teens).



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    A 2.3 for a DXD show? Wow..

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    A study shows that Nick viewing is up in non-Netflix homes, while down in homes with the Netflix streaming service.
    Uh-oh. There's nothing that really proves it, but I hope this doesn't lead to Nickelodeon limiting the programming they deliver to Netflix and online. Also Disney, despite winning, is down as well and they also deliver a good amount of programming to Netflix...

    I'm sure Nickelodeon is happy with how Korra's doing, I'm sure they don't expect a "cartoon" to beat a live-action show on Disney and if I'm reading it right it holds it own against Disney's programming. Plus, it's the most successful launch they had in awhile, it's tied to a previous popular franchise, so I think they'll continue to support it.

    Didn't really know how bad T.U.F.F. Puppy was doing. Time for Butch to going back to the drawing board. Power Rangers needs support, I wish they did something like a Korra-action show-Power Rangers sandwich.

    ETA: Got some Power Rangers Nicktoons numbers from Son of the Bronx!

    For 4/9-13, range for Power Rangers 8-9am 138k-291k viewers. 4/13 8:30 342k, 11pm 328k, 11:30 248k. 4/14-15 range: 64k-231k
    Look pretty decent. If the Nickelodeon thing doesn't work out, it can be exclusive to Nicktoons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stimpy!
    DISNEY CHANNEL 3.7/19 Avg. (7a-1p)
    Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 2.3/23; Doc McStuffins 3.0/22; Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 2.9/17; Jake and the Never Land Pirates 2.6/13; Monsters, Inc. (1x100) 5.0/21; Phineas and Ferb 3.7/16; Jessie 3.6/17; A.N.T. Farm 3.5/18; Wizards of Waverly Place 3.3/18; Wizards of Waverly Place 3.0/16
    NICKELODEON 2.8/14 Avg. (7a-1p)
    T.U.F.F. Puppy 1.0/10; T.U.F.F. Puppy 2.1/15; Legend of Korra (1x60) 2.0/10; SpongeBob SquarePants 2.8/12; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.2/17; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.2/17; SpongeBob SquarePants 4.3/19; Legend of Korra 3.9/19; Fred: The Show 2.8/14; Power Rangers Samurai 2.4/13; T.U.F.F. Puppy 1.9/11
    CARTOON NETWORK 1.8/9 Avg. (7a-1p)
    Johnny Test 1.6/16; Redakai: Conquer the Kairu 1.3/9; Beyblade: Metal Masters 1.5/9; Pokemon B&W: Rival Destinies 1.7/8; Ben 10: Ultimate Alien 1.8/8; Thundercats 2.0/8; The Green Lantern 2.1/9; Young Justice 2.0/9; Mad 2.3/11; Level Up 1.7/8; The Looney Tunes Show 2.1/11; The Looney Tunes Show 2.0/11
    DISNEY XD 1.2/6 Avg. (7a-1p)
    Kick Buttowski 0.5/5; Phineas and Ferb 0.7/5; Phineas and Ferb 1.0/6; Lab Rats 1.5/7; Pair of Kings (1x60) 2.3/10; So Random 1.5/6; Kickin It 1.4/6; Kick Buttowski (1x15) 1.5/7; Fish Hooks (1x15) 1.1/5; Phineas and Ferb 1.0/5; Pair of Kings 0.8/4; Pair of Kings 0.7/4

    Dude, this is sad for Korra. It won it's timeslot but it could do way better, and it didn't make any top chart this week either (only #1 for teens).
    New TUFF Puppy only got a 1.9? To be fair, it didn't get much promotion (did it even get ANY promotion?) but still, it's low. It's lucky it got 60 episodes ordered back then.
    Nothing to see here, just keep on with what you were doing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doguineta View Post
    New TUFF Puppy only got a 1.9? To be fair, it didn't get much promotion (did it even get ANY promotion?) but still, it's low. It's lucky it got 60 episodes ordered back then.
    Not really. Just because 60 episodes were ordered, it does not mean Nick will air them all. If ratings continue, they may push the rest of the premiere to nicktoons or not premiere them at all.
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    T.U.F.F. Puppy is the latest in Nick’s line of horrible treatment. There wasn’t a single promo for last Saturday’s episode – not on TV, not online, nowhere. Not only that, but Nick moved it from 11:30am (after Korra) to 12:30pm the day before it aired - most TV guides didn't even reflect this change, I know mine didn't.

    It was also scheduled to be new this week, but Nick has pulled it from the schedule. However, a repeat is schedule for Sunday at 10:30am – which is where SpongeBob has been doing really good lately (that’s where SB has it’s most watched episodes usually). So, I wonder if that’ll help the show out some. We’ll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMC1982
    The real problem for Nickelodeon in regards to their ratings is their often erratic and redundant scheduling. As well as their recent shows borrowing (instead of being an "alternative") from the wishful-fulfillment /teen celebrity sitcom formula from the Disney Channel.

    Is Netflix to blame for Nickelodeon's ratings decline?


    A study shows that Nick viewing is up in non-Netflix homes, while down in homes with the Netflix streaming service.
    Interesting...

    I know some people who dumped cable because they had Netflix but simply watching less when having both is an interesting development. But for plenty of those shows it is way more convenient to catch episodes on Netflix than it is to catch them on Nick any particular day other than premieres. Especially for cartoons that are not SpongeBob.

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    It's a copout. Disney Channel has more content on Netflix and they're not having these problems. Nice try, Nickelodeon.

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    As explained, Disney's ratings are down as well.
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    But Disney isn't nearly down as much as Nick. Nick is down as high as 45% in some demos. Disney is down as high as 8% in some demos.
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    They may not be as bad off as Nick but it doesn't change the overall fact that they are down.
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