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    Episode #5 - The Menace of Mysterio
    Original Airdate - Feburary 18, 1994

    As part of a personal vendetta a new villain in town, Mysterio, frames Spider-Man in order to tarnish his reputation and attempts to gain the status as the real hero of New York. Now, Spider-Man must foil Mysterio's plan and expose him for the villain he is!

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    Alrite then, I'll start.

    One of my favourite episodes of Spider-Man: The Animated Series. It closely follows the original story from Amazing Spider-Man #13, but adds new stuff just enough to not feel like they are treading over old ground.

    The animation in this episode owned. It was so bright and vibrant, they nailed the webs down to a T, and Mysterios smoke looked great. One of the better animated episodes in the first season.

    It had some classic spidey-lines in it to boot.

    "Dear Chuckles" and "Mysterio, let them go, they don't have anything to do with it, well, Jameson you can keep" spring to mind.

    It was nice seeing the origin, but you could tell violence was a no go. He didn't even hit the burgler.

    Still, a ***** ep easy.
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    Yeah, the animation was tight this ep. I never really got into Mysterio until The Haunting of Mary Jane Watson. Still this was pretty good. J.J. is such a jerk but you gotta love 'im. The werewolf shot was used again later but it's still creepy. Good episode. ****.
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    The Pat Wollery sightings is starting to get annoying.

    Mysterio, I just can't take this villain seriously. He has an orb for a head, he's a bitter, out of work special effects specialist who has a bone to pick for Spidey. He uses holograms to trick people into what they are seeing. To me, he's lame.

    As for JJ, he sees he hates people in masks yet when Mysterios seemingly kills Spidey, JJ is supported of him just like that. Of course, he never take into account the number of times that Spidey helps the citizens of Manhatton. That hypocracy annoys me.
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    Episode #5 - The Menace of Mysterio
    Original Airdate - Feburary 18, 1994

    Mysterio, a master of illusion and special effects, masquerades as Spider-Man while committing crimes to convince J. Jonah Jameson and the public that Spidey's gone bad. Finally, with the help of Police Detective Terry Lee, Spider-Man locates the illusionist in an old studio and struggles through a deadly special effects maze to capture the villain and clear his own name.

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    I loved this episode, especially the way they handled Mysterio. He's an interesting villain, and here they made his gimmick relatively believable (for example, the scene with robotic werewolf-Mysterio), and they gave him a deep, sinister vioce, as opposed to that clownish crap in Spider-man game (is it just me, or did his VA change for the Insidious Six episodes?). Also, the episode had great animation and some of the best lines in the series.

    5/5, all the way!

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    The issue of Amazing Spiderman that this episode is based on executed the concept a lot better. But still this was pretty cool. It had some good animation by Sp:TAS standards. Also I like how they made Mysterio a real psycho.

    Mary Jane is tolerable in this episode, but still she is so unrealistic and annoying it is painful to watch. The only character this bad on the show is out of costume Peter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuujin
    I loved this episode, especially the way they handled Mysterio. He's an interesting villain, and here they made his gimmick relatively believable (for example, the scene with robotic werewolf-Mysterio), and they gave him a deep, sinister vioce, as opposed to that clownish crap in Spider-man game (is it just me, or did his VA change for the Insidious Six episodes?).
    It was the same VA (Gregg Berger). They just altered his voice in "Menace of Mysterio". Every episode he was in since then, they used Berger's unaltered voice.
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    Interesting fact, Gregg Berger also voiced Kraven The Hunter. I thought Mysterio sounded a helluva lot better in this episode than in the later ones.

    The deep booming effect sounded great, IMO. The type of effect someone like Mysterio should have.

    Despite his somewhat goofy premisis, I always enjoyed seeing Mysterio. Shame he's dead now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amazing Spidey
    Despite his somewhat goofy premisis, I always enjoyed seeing Mysterio. Shame he's dead now
    You know...me too! I always through he was a fun little character despite his goofy tendencies. I bet he was a character that alot of creators could just run wilds with. And while he may be dead in the comics I'm sure he'll be back in the cartoons someday. I wonder what kind of path they would have taken with him on the MTV show.
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    Well, we got a glimpse of "movie-like" version of him in the latest game. IMO they did a good job.

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    The movie version was someone's bad idea of a joke. I really enjoyed fighting Mysterio in the PS1 version, and suddenly I get some alien inspired calamity. Wasn't impressed. He did have a cool design though.

    In this episode, I was especially impressed with the animation. The scenes of Spidey crawling up the bridge made for some great visuals.
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    Is it me or is Mysterio a really underrated villain. This episode aired on TV today so I watched my unedited Fox Kids copy and I think he's a pretty strong villain. His costume design is interesting and a bit weird (the fishbowl) but he has alot of great potential and can be a strong bad guy if used right.
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    This has to be one of my favorite Spidey TAS episodes of all time, and Mysterio is one of my favorite villains from Spidey TAS to boot. I have alot of fond memories with this episode, and I thought it was very well made and thought up. I really hope that someday soon we will have these episodes on appropriate DVDs.
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    He' differenly one of the best Stan has created

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    I preferr the disco episode from the solo animated series in 1981.
    The way Spider-Man takes down Mysterio here is better
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    Marvel just put this episode out today:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Man View Post
    His costume design is interesting and a bit weird (the fishbowl) but he has alot of great potential and can be a strong bad guy if used right.

    Wasn't the "fishbowl" part of his original design. I was just recently watching one of the episodes that he appeared in back the 67 cartoon and he still had the fishbowl. It seems that Mysterio's costume is one of those costumes that doesn't change with the era's.

    I just finished watching the episode on marvel.com and I must say that, when the series was being aired on YTV back in the 90's and early 2000's I must've missed this episode or something, since I didn't remember a thing.

    I thought the reference to Wiley E. Coyote was pretty funny as a nod to the Looney Tunes, and then at the end I found the line that Parker says to MJ "So what is the difference between you and Spider-Man? Skin-tight outfits?" to be pretty risque for a children's cartoon.

    Really great episode.

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    This episode introduces a new villain, Mysterio. An ex-expert in creating special effects for movies, Quentin Beck returns as Mysterio to get his revenge on Spidey, the guy who handed him to the police, thus "ruining" his career.
    The episode might not seem much, but thanks to the spectacular animation and the perfect voice effects they added to Mysterio's voice, this episode shinned.
    The story was a good old-fashioned Spidey story. Nothing colossal happened, no ultimate battle which he has to win, just a superhero vs. super villain fight.
    The character of Mysterio was really well presented in this episode, featuring his origin, a decent back story, and something other of Spidey's villains lacked during the series, motivation for what he does.
    Definitely, Mysterio was one of the coolest looking villains this show offered. It's just too bad he wasn't featured in more episodes. He would have worked wonders on the show.
    Of course, there's also the obligatory humorous moments, this time provided once again by J. Jonah Jameson. His character was great, adding great one-liners which could match Spidey's.
    On another note, this episode introduced a new recurring character, and an interesting one. Detective Terri Lee, one of the few people in the city that actually thought Spidey was a hero. She may have disagreed sometimes with him about how he goes around to save the city, but she was his friend. Overall a good episode, with great animation and a story which will entertain you.
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